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Internet explodes in outrage as usual.
on the kazoo
No idea why Affleck would chose to do it, mind you.
He just pretty much spent three films mumbling.
...but trying to imagine another actor in the role now's quite difficult.
Not sure Affleck's an inspiring choice in any way, really.
He played Bruce Wayne fantastically.
His mumble/grouchy voice was clearly a voice thing in his cowl
that's fine by me.
It had little to do with Affleck
(in Hollywoodland)so he gets to complete the set.
Is there really that much more that can be wrung out of the Batman story?
not that I know about these things really but recently I heard some DC comics geek on the radio talking about how Holywood was gearing up for a whole new generation of superhero films, with loads of Batman/Superman crossovers and shit like that, and just churning them out one after the other for years to come. He was really excited.
I'm basically done with them. They've had their time, they're forumlaic as hell and I can't really see that they'll ever top Spider-man 2, so why bother?
I don't want to come over all Mark Kermode but the idea of making a film where the primary objective is to make a pile of money, ignoring things like plot, character, style etc leaves me cold. That's before the branded marketing tie-ins even start: action figures, t-shirts, pyjamas, lunch boxes, McDonalds Happy Meals...
they'll stop churning them out
but if you think they were, on balance, more concerned with audience pleasing than with style and character, then i disagree
I was thinking more about the Kilmer/Clooney films and the recent rash of Marvel ''re-imaginings''
hence 8 years between batman and robin and batman begins.
just because nolan doesnt want to make batman films anymore, doesnt mean that no one ("no one" rhymes with "nolan") can. not saying the new films will be any good, just that you cant write tehm off just for being comic book films, or for featuring a character who's had 8 features made about them
But I wouldn't be so extreme - just because the entire thing is ultimately a business venture doesn't mean that talented, creative people aren't doing good work. Captain America had buckets of style, The Dark Knight was full of character. You don't have to buy into the whole lunch box/trading card thing to just enjoy a decent film.
He's talking about the Star Wars effect. So you end up with someone like Jar-Jar who appears to be conceived based on his appeal to kids and thus selling power as a toy, than because he actually works remotely well as a character within the story.
Captain America wasn't a film conceived first to make a lot of money, it was conceived to lead to making an Avengers movie. I mean, Marvel wanted to do films of their comics that they felt were good films. Obviously money was a driver but it wasn't, "How do we make a load of money? Write me a script that does that".
Bruce Wayne is faced with a fine he can quite easily pay, but doesn't want to.
the librarian vaguely resembles one of the people that SPOILER killed his parents, or perhaps uses the same scented shampoo.
throughout, we witness Wayne brooding over the outstanding fees, then using his array of gadgets to sneak in and read books at night, ultimately facing The Librarian in a climactic scene where the Caped Crusader gets a bit too involved in a James Patterson novel and finds himself discovered upon opening up for the day.
twist: The Librarian is also the HOT LOVE INTEREST and after the confrontation, they have sex right there in the library.
Superman v Batman or some such nonsense. Sounds like its essentially going to be a follow up to Man of Steel, featuring Batman.
Meh, guess it depends on what sort of tone the film is supposed to have.
so I can laugh/cry myself into a coma?
Thanks in advance
but I saw this:
didn't see this
I'M DEFINITELY NOT GONA SEE THIS ON OPENING WEEKEND NOW. MAYBE 2ND WEEK.
That'll show 'em!
by backwards-thinking neanderthals who have only ever seen superhero films therefore their only point of reference for ben affleck is daredevil. Some of them, who like to call themselves film reviewers, couldn't name any of the three films he directed.
I don't see why anyone cares who plays Batman. The role of Batman only really involves playing Bruce Wayne, and all you need to do that is look smarmy in one scene, and pensive in another. I could fucking do that.
It starts off quite calm, then he reads a few tweets that he wrote about it, that he thinks are quite witty (they aren't, and make a hilarious reference to Uwe Boll, which is what people who don't know anything about films do) and then loses it at end with some choice quotes.
earned some bloody respect. I don't think it's a terrible choice(not ideal though), maybe he can add some warmth again.
particularly as a director - he just seems to be setting himself up for a fall with this (which would be a shame, because with all accounts he is probably quite a nice bloke).
A talking raccoon! Vin Diesel as a tree! Andy from Parks & Rec! Amy Pond with a skinhead!
It's gonne be mega.
twat about in a rubber suit and twat about in a dinner suit.
P.S Hasn't Affleck got a bit of a stupid chin?
and recent things he's done like Argo and The Town are cracking. We've come a long way since Daredevil, and with the right guidance on the project, he could be a fine choice.
No matter what type of character he's supposed to be playing, he always seems like an objectionable bell end.
He has directed some very good films though.
Jesus, you are fucking kidding? What a piece of cliché bullshit.
If you're going to pick a good Affleck film then there's Hollywoodland and some Kevin Smith movies.
I dunno, despite Hollywoodland, the guy just doesn't seem to have a great deal of range, which is fine, but what he can do well doesn't seem to include twatting about in a rubber suit.
I like to view it as a spiritual sequel to Good Will Hunting.
And so so full of his, "No really, I'm a blue collar hero even though I've a Hollywood bigshot," rubbish. He never really convinces as a blue collar guy in Good Will Hunting and he doesn't particularly here.
But that ending too? Really? REALLY? I dunno, it just felt such a tired old tale and not a particularly good telling of it to boot.
What are you going on about Theo?
When I say 'good Affleck films' I mean, naturally, good films starring Ben Affleck. I don't mean good films he's directed, because he's not going to be directing himself as Batman.
Unless there's something specific about Allen Coulter I don't know?
Batman himself is almost a prop.
LOL geek joke.
article up on The Guardian questioning why a woman wasn't cast
Zack Snyder is still directing, which largely kills the film's chances of being much good.
I admit it's unlikely but it could happen. Obviously Affleck could pull out too.
Can we all just agree it'll be crap?
things were starting to go well for him
<ctrl+f "was the bomb in Phantoms, yo">
The Superman/Batman crossover can't be anything more than fluff anyway, they can't do anything that would have lasting repercussions on either character.
I find it hard to see how this one won't be a disaster
What if Alan Moore or Frank Miller wrote it and Nolan exec produced? What if Bill Murray signed on to be The Joker? What if Trent Reznor did the soundtrack? What if it was a musical? etc.
just doesn't seem likely.
(fwiw I thought the nolan ones were a lot of pish anyway, they're about a man who dresses up as a rubber bat ffs)
It would have been pretty controversial to not involve a man dressing up as a rubber bat in them.
is different to comparing it to other films generally.
it's a kids film.
But, dream casting would be Steve Buscemi as Joker
Seth Rogan as Joker
Jonah Hill as Penguin
James Franco as Riddler
Jay Baruchel as Two-Face
Danny McBride as Bane
I find it hard to imagine how terrible a new batman movie needs to be for people to not like it
full of piss and shit and bits of sick and blood
"Soon a cadre of police will arrive..." love that.
So who cares, things can only get better
I can get from the middle of a desert after a gruelling stay in an underground prison with limited water and food to Gotham City, a city under complete lockdown, and no commitment within a couple of hours.
Hi I'm Bane.... I'm not even the main villain to satisfy the directors need for a crappy plot twist.
Hi I'm Catwoman, I'm the love interest.
don't know why I said commitment
I can't remember my name because I'm a shitty character and I do the worst death scene in recent memory
BLURRRRR *tongue sticks out*
"Hi, I'm Marion Cottilard, lick my thighs please DaddyorChips. PS, Nolan is really crap at directing me, isn't he?"
but I only ever saw it in the cinema... even if that was the case it doesn't excuse the fact the film was incredibly dull and striving to be as dark and edgy as it's far better predecessor
I only saw it in the flicks too. They go through a lot of time quickly in that section but I'm sure the last news item before he escapes mentions about 2 weeks until the device goes off and he arrives the night before.
His journey back is no less unreasonable than Bourne's flitting about in those films and the other fantastical stuff in this trilogy.
Personally, TDKR was a definite step down from TDK but I really enjoyed it, after the slow opening 40mins.
disregard my critism
Would have got a lot more interest from the Football Thread regulars.
already has 17,000+ supporters
with Will Arnett as the Joker
FRANCHISE REVOLUTIONISED YA PRICKS
what, the guy in the $60000 dollar batsuit is gonna beat up some 2-bit thugs? C'MON
To star in a kids film
so so terrible
Then I'd watch it.
won't kill people etc.
I actually seem to recall Batman having guns on his vehicles in a few of the films over the years, mind.
how far do you think their firing range is?
The release date was moved once again in August 2014 from May 6, 2016 to March 25, 2016, with a Warner Bros. insider saying the studio was "not flinching" regarding the film previously opening on the same day as Marvel Studios' Captain America 3, that March 2016 was a "fantastic corridor" for them.
you've got to get worried
($291m for MoS, $294m for GotG so far)
man of steel barely made back it's budget domestically
In fact didn't Superman Returns do better than that, yet got branded a failure by WB?
The NA box office has declined in importance a lot over the last few years though. ROW earnings regularly overtake NA, and often dwarf them - the latest Transformers film took in about $250m NA (less than the 3rd film, which was itself lower than the 2nd), but $750m ROW.
Pacific Rim has got a sequel on the way, despite bombing in NA, because it took loads elsewhere. That's the first time that has happened.