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I find this quite sad.
so it doesn't matter right?
Around 16 per cent, or 5.2 million adults in England, can be described as "functionally illiterate". They would not pass an English GCSE and have literacy levels at or below those expected of an 11-year-old
to know exactly who they - as an institution - are shamelessly and deliberately aiming to exploit.
I can quite easily believe that 50% of my sample didn't have a reading age of 11 :/
One of them joined the army because there was a proud family tradition of joining up.
The other joined the army because they didn't really have any other choices in life.
the ranks, in almost all countries, this is by no means a rule and is just a generalisation, but it is well well known, so why is this news or remarkable in any way? Is it because the general public are less perceptive than your average 11 year old?
PS what is the % of mail readers who are illiterate cw say the guardian (remember exactitude in spelling or grammar is not to be taken into account here)
they're probably not illiterate.
within the context of this thread, which has set out an agenda of relative literacy.
I did of course mean relatively illiterate compared with others, rather than an absolute position.
'Illiterate' is indeed often used as a relative term.
You may have noticed in my posts today, a refreshing brevity, a brevity that you are now causing me to reconsider. Perhaps other disers would like to reflect that any return to verbosity may, in part, be down to the malign influence of raanraals,
Can't smoke, can't drink, can't appear in porn, but can be sent off to kill / be killed
can't vote and therefore have a say in whether or not they get sent to war
e.g. many people would have thought voting for left of the tory pasry might result in a less aggressive response to foreign issues, but this does not translate into anything practical.
Tony Blair showed he was up to 'it'
How do we know they're not innumerate too?
But does this even matter? I can't see how not having beyond primary school reading skills is going to cause you problems if you're in the infantry. I mean, the job skills don't really involve being able or required to use a lot of literary skills? Bit of a disclaimer, know fuck all about the army and the kind of day to day tasks your job would involve in pretty much every armed forces field, just asking why people are worried about the news story and if there's other points I haven't realised? I get the point about the army choosing people with no other life options than get drafted up though. But even then, you can always try to motivate people and give them a chance to do some further studies or whatever. The cynic in me probably thinks the MOD wouldn't bother to spend their money on that coz they're dicks, but it's an idea anyway.
and this segment is less likely to have any other option available to them.
makes it sound like conscription.
but I'm not sure conscription is necessarily so far wide of the mark.
that it's not a fair proportion of society and just the people from disadvantaged backrounds have to do the all the dirty work in essence. But then, the only way you could change that is a conscription :s So bit of a tough one.
Still, how many people have died in afghanistan and iraq combined? Only about a 1000 or so right? Bit of a crap way to kill off a part of society you don't like.
I think it's just symptomatic of the mindless and compassionless way in which the powerful treat the powerless
But it's a pretty ineffective way of getting rid of a chunk of society really? Not saying it's right or anything, I'd be the first person to tell you both wars were unjustified and a waste of life. But that wasn't the topic.
I do completely agreed about the ruling elite choosing to send the powerless, or less powerful anyway to do things they'd never be willing to do. But that's how life is I guess. It's not like we're all standing up and fighting against it.
you are right though, it's not like I'm down the recruiting office of a lunchtime offering remedial literacy lessons to potential squaddies, I'm just posting about it on an internet message board. I guess that means I can say to myself I've not completely given up caring and so salves my conscience enough that I feel justified mouthing off about it :(
MPs recruit learning disability persons for fucking tomorrow.