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has anyone seen this? What did you think?
here's a zizek article about it
i don't think anywhere in my country is showing it sadly. any film Werner Herzog signs up for has to be good.
I have tickets to see it in Hammersmith in a couple of weeks
one of the best films i've seen in ages but... hard going.
there are a few scenes which are unbearable.
but basically its all capitalisms fault
but a number of my friends did and all had the same stunned reaction leaving
I'll be amazed if it isn't my film of the year, stunning
ridiculoulsly shit article.
It's on at Hebden Bridge on the 8th of August (which is a lovely cinema by the way).
Was breathtaking, words failed me for fucking ages afterwards. Unbelievable both as both a documentary and as per the subject it portrays.
I was blissfully oblivious of the subject matter before this, but the arrogance is unbelievable.
the 'must see' hype is justified, imo.
pretty incredible on about every level
The harrowingly accurate Voltaire quote at the start sort of sums it up. Depressing.
Does anyone know if the film is being shown in Indonesia? Would be interesting to see their reaction to it.
I'm not sure I could watch it again, but if you haven't seen it you should definitely watch it.
gonna spend a couple days building up to it
(i dont have netflix )
is the second half better than the first? So boring
Didn't really need to watch the rest
Completely coincidentally it turns out that the director, Werner Herzog and Erroll Morris did a reddit AMA last night, some really interesting reading:
not sure I agree with it a whole lot, but it's a decent enough argument to not go into trolling country http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/feb/23/act-of-killing-dont-give-oscar-snuff-movie-indonesia
I didn't find it as harrowing or as powerful as I thought it would be. The banality of the evil.. fine, I could see that. But there was this complete lack of self awareness that stopped it from shining any sort of light onto the souls of the individuals, particularly Anwar. I just didn't buy the revelatory breakdown at the end, and all the restaging stuff was both crass and unenlightening.
They just seemed like incredibly stupid people, in a culture where killing was accepted, and who had nothing edifying to reveal. The stupidity of evil.
It was also quite boring
is kind of the point.
they talk about how they became gangsters by watching and being influenced by violent Hollywood films/scalping tickets to them, so film is important to them as a vessel of their slightly unreal beliefs and motives. They live in a world where they are celebrated as heroes, of course they think they should make a film about it.
I do buy the breakdown, because it's a subtle thing that slowly creeps in as the film goes on
calling it a snuff movie moves his argument completely out of the realms of anything interesting and right int good old-fashioned stupidity
I don't really know what he's going on about at the end - that stuff about screaming and Koestler?
The film's main triumph is the access itself, and getting those people to speak that way. They feel no remorse because they believe they did a good thing (mainly) and want the world to hear their heroic story. That we know it to have been a horrible and evil act, is why it is so watchable.
The recreations are fundamental as a device to get them to open up, and also to make them look really normal and really stupid. They just don't give a fuck.
I could've lived without the supposed break down from Anwar at the end, but I guess the film needed that to show them as humans or something.
where suddenly you made it sound scripted
I meant more that it obviously happened, but the film didn't need to show it, as it felt like he might be faking. He might have felt like he needed to make a statement and show a bit of remorse as he had started to work out that this wasn't all going to look that great when the film comes out.
felt genuine to me, but either way it's interesting and therefore worth showing
I was going to watch this last night but they've taken it off netflix, the dicks
no, that's the one I tried
I'm sure it was there the day before. dicks.
might be something to do with it being an Oscar nomination so it might be back in Cinemas for a short time. try another country? I hear Sweden/Canada have loads
this is costing me a fortune in flights
mate you've just come back from there, not my fault you didn't get your shit together when it was convenient.