the fact they blithely take it as read that a fulltime employee won't earn enough to live on is fucking horriffic
much as it's easy to grumble about the UK, our minimum wage is half again as high as in the US and the living wage is actually an actual political issue that may come to something. God knows what US minimum wage is even based on, but fact a major employer isn't even pretending you could live off it is really, really awful.
God bless ya ya crazy yank bastards
Didnt live the high life though, granted.
but there are massive fluctuations across the US of course.
probably easy to support one person on it, not so easy to support a family or if you have any kind of dependent.
With a massive sense of entitlement to what the world owes you?
So thats not South?
I've had enough 'north of watford' info for one day
but it can compete with a number of the grimmest northern strongholds for post-industrial decline and malaise.
I suppose you have to fit these comments in between your trips to pret and starbucks so you dont have much time to come up with a good argument
my assistant goes for me.
the minimum wage is equivalent to almost $10 an hour, plus there is a lot of pressure on big companies to pay living wage (not sure if McDonalds will ever hop on, but people like M&S do), and despite blah blah Tories, the state will look after you in a way it just won't in America.
He went once. Nev er mentions it though
but we also have some of the highest housing costs in the world, as well as most expensive (private and public) transportation.
There's a much better safety net, for sure. But still, anyone with a family is going to struggle on minimum wage in much of the UK.
The insurance for the 3 of them is $3000 a month, and that's for bare basics.
They earn lots as they both have good jobs in NYC but I have no idea how people survive there otherwise.
Not that that makes it any better!
She's a very highly sought after designer on almost that a day, so gets by fine, but how many people can say that?
Fuck me, that's quite a wage!
I know food and rental costs in NY are mad, but the average designer is on about 4 times what they'd earn in the UK. And I don't mean multiply your wage in £s for $s 4 times, I mean comparably.
Maybe I should have taken that Creative Director role out there after all...
You can't just compare $ and £ amounts. All kinds of things will be differently costed and priced. To claim we have it better is glib. We don't know, all we can say is it's shit here too.
Some places I think only give you 5 days a year...?
it's a simple quality of life issue.
There are certain things that are 'better' in the States - eg, tax is low, it's much cheaper to run a car, food is cheaper, fresh produce is generally better, but in most of the UK you can live off a full time minimum wage job, you won't be fucked for life if you get ill and don't have insurance, etc etc.
There is a lot of stuff wrong over here, and arguably the States is much better to live in if you're on the middle of the social ladder (better universities, hospitals, schools etc if you can afford them), but our society is just set up to insure a minimum quality of life that American society simply isn't.
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And that her wage was $900.
The wage was the figure that stuck in my head to be honest, I couldn't believe it. Maybe it was top whack insurance though.
I DUNNO?!?! LEAVE ME ALONE DiS! I'M GONNA DO SOME WORK NOW YOU'VE ALL HOUNDED ME OUT!!!
(See you in 20)
have you seen that documentary about Wal-Mart? has several example of the company advising its minimum wage workers on how to claim various benefits. terrible terrible stuff.
That sounds very un-American to me!
to muscle into urban markets with a new minimum wage law specifically aimed at companies of their size :D
they reckon the lowest realistic health insurance is $215 a month, and that only covers A&E emergencies! I am bloody glad we live in the UK sometimes, as much as we moan. It could be a lot worse.
, but i could never live there, what with Canada just over there.
Are we arguing that it would be better for McDonalds to provide *no* budgeting advice to their employees? That would seem even more irresponsible to me.
No advice please.
yes, it would probably be better to provide no advice than to provide flagrantly incorrect advice.
Takes all the fun out of trolling.
One of the biggest employers in the US is essentially operating in the knowledge that despite all of their massive profits, all of the on-going damage they do health-wise and beyond, that they knowingly pay their employees less than they need to live.
That is deeply, deeply depressing.
I’m sure it is confirmation bias or similar, but it is almost like the veil has slipped … are big corporations even pretending any more?! - YEP, WE ARE EVIL FUCKERS, WHAT YOU GONNA DO? EAT THIS BURGER.
it's probably the US govt's responsibility to up the minimum wage first and foremost (though I'm sure companies like Maccy Ds are the ones lobbying to stop them doing so)
But I reject the idea that it is the only way, a company is not immune from making better decisions, not all no-skill labour exploits their workers in the same way.
Ideally (though I except unlikely) reform would come bottom up and top down.
but that's just not going to happen in the States at the moment – minimum wage is a conversation that happens between corporations and the govt, it's not like the govt just decides what they think would be nice for people, a furious amount of lobbying goes on from people like McDonalds, Walmart etc to keep the minimum wage that low.
...but the federal minimum wage for tipped employees is $2.13 p/h. Yay.
works out at £4.81
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