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As i said in the football thread, bit puzzling that so many peoples first reaction is something along the lines of WHY THE FUCK ARE THEY HOSTING THE WORLD CUP?.
but fifa are staging the world cup in one of the most violent countries in the world and it's probably worth talking about.
We can't just not allow African or South American or even Asian countries to host competitions, and you're not going to change the culture of mass nations by either chucking money at it or even by trying to educate.
Really don't think football can be the moral judge, and there are probably arguments for such a big event being positive, especially for a country like Brazil, at the time and in terms of legacy, as much as the current demonstations there might suggest a lot more has to be done to address the balance between investment in sports and investment in communities.
Personally, i just find it pretty annoying how mainland Europe thinks it owns football, and this sort sort of incident just tends to bring out the very worst kind of casual bigots.
than when, say, the amateur linesman was kicked to death in Holland earlier this year. An incident that for several reasons, in my opinion, was at least as shocking.
just ain't as shocking as beaten, stoned, quartered, and staking the head in the middle of the pitch.
Will be of a huge benefit because brazil has such huge problems with violence?
Given the scale of the event I don't think it puts tourists at risk in a huge way. I mean people said the same about soun Africa didn't they.
but i think the fears are that there isn't enough money being invested in most of that, but instead far too much is going into building shiny new stadiums that will more than likely be underused once the tournament's over.
I'm sure that as the tournament gets closer more will have to go into jobs and infrastructure, but that will be more to make sure FIFA gets the chance to be seen having the shiniest tournament possible than anything else.
I doubt there will be much by way of ongoing work after the finals, and rather than generating vast amounts of money for host countries, these sort of events often leave them with billions of pounds worth of debt which is only really justified by the potential for legacy which in most instances is largely immeasurable.
When South Africa hosted the 2010 World Cup for instance, for all that it was a hugely significant moment historically it didn't really leave any real legacy or improve the country in any noteable way. FIFA earned over £2bn, £400m of which was clear profit, South Africa was lumbered with £2bn of debt & £700m worth of largely pointless stadiums.
This must have been horribly gruesome and there is no need for either if the violent reactions to this
just so you're clear.
I would like to know why the referee was carrying a knife though.
Stabbing someone in retaliation's clearly a bit much, and one thing by no means excuses another, but carrying a weapon in itself is probably a natural enough reaction to fearing for your safety. Not sure how the Brazilian FA could realistically raise the issue of safety of officials without it at least looking like they were in some way justifying his actions, mind.
it seems for general protection, not specifically for the match itself.
He was quartered. QUARTERED!!?!??? Jayzus chreest
how everyone involved in this story was so determined to take things to a new level.
I'm sending you off
I'm not going
OK I'm going to stab you to death
We're going to kill the ref
I'm going to cut his arms & legs off
Well I'M going to cut off his head & impale it on a spike
Woaahhh, you win...