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You'd better watch out, secret meat eaters. They're looking for you. They're going to find you:
My diets now 99% vegetarian and 95% vegan
are you meant to eat shit food when you get glandular fever? i barely ate at all, but even when i did i didn't tend to necessarily crave meat. i guess it's important for regaining strength and all that?
then I had to go home to my mum till I had enough strength to look after myself. Struggled to do enough cooking to get sufficient protein so had to eat cheese/yoghurt/food that contains dairy
Because if it's meat, then your diet is 0% vegetarian / vegan I'm afraid.
"I'm mostly vegetarian!"
I mean, is the issue meat consumption or moral absolutism. Surely it is better to have a few people eating as DD describes rather than the all or nothing attitude that would pick converting one person over moderating the consumption of many?
if you eat any meat or fish at all seems a bit weird
I don't eat any animal products but I would never actually identify as a vegetarian or vegan. Just gets me when people wear it as some badge of honour.
if you label my food preference, you negate my food preference?
and I'm not going to criticise anyone for doing that, but you can't call yourself a vegetarian if you're not 100% vegetarian.
everyone could say that then.
i think they'd be a bit of a prick tho
IMO there's a difference between saying "I'm a vegetarian", and "I eat vegetarian food".
If you eat 1% meat, you can't really call yourself a vegetarian, but you can still say you eat vegetarian food (if indeed you do).
Glad we got this cleared up.
just that it's pointless to. Less about rules and more about communicating something meaningful with the words you choose. I could call myself a purple elephant for all I wanted.
otherwise yeah, bit pointless
which is different and an entirely acceptable thing to say.
but people saying like 'i'm vegetarian apart from on the odd day when i eat meat' really gets my goat
you can find out which beer/wine manufacturers use isinglass etc.
There's the chance that food I buy when I'm out isn't totally vegetarian/I was completely ignorant of non vegetarian aspects of food.
Also beer. Mainly beer.
but ales usually do.
Can a beer nerd please clear this up for me
http://www.barnivore.com/ this is pretty good if you want to be super great and not involve animals in your diet at all ever though i'm personally shit at it and drink everything
Drink stronger beer, BECOME AN ALCOHOLIC
(thanks for the link btw)
all cask ales do, but bottled ales/beer from a keg do not.
for example Fosters brewed in the UK is fine, but Fosters from elsewhere contains isinglass (I think).
....but then again so do cows...and rabbits
I wanted to see if one of my friends from the US was on there so I could send it to them. :(
I can only imagine the abject horrors of the vegan "scene".
and fingering insects and other things
and have to eat shit from all the people they were a cunt to
probably deserve it, frankly
sXe kids who get drunk/high when they feel like it
sexy kids? you monster.
no need to shame them for their correct life choices
if someone doesn't want to eat meat, but for whatever reason occasionally does that (out of guilt, lack of options, politeness, by mistake, whatever) then as if theyre gonna be like 'well I guess I can no longer tell people my diet is vegetarian, I'll have to tell them I eat meat! I suppose this means I'm going to have to eat meat every time I'm asked for my dietary requirements (which are absolutely not vegetarian) or round at someone's house: " thanks for the invitation, lasagne does sound great but I don't eat mince...no, I'm not a vegetarian, under the definition given by drownedinsound.com, but I will not eat beef if you serve it to me. Please make something else without any meat, it kinda disgusts me...No I'm 0% vegetarian."
Ironically the only people treating vegetarianism as a 'badge of honour' are people who get really weird about others using it to describe their diet, as if it has to be denied from people who aren't 100% pure cause they're cheating and don't deserve the coveted accolade 'vegetarian'.
Reminds me of my friend who still points out I tried steak in Paris 7 years ago.
cause they don't cook it enough there. I had one there, asked for it medium and it was like blue jelly on my plate. Sick. Plus it cost like 20 euros but whatever, 55K and that
I know the 'you've made your bed now lie in it!!!' attitude most people have.
If I'm being trolled that's actually great progress and I welcome it.
Wouldn't have again
didnt put me off tho
i'm out of here
looks like I'm back on the meat forever, only get one chance to be vegetarian and I BLEW IT.
usually for reasons of principle. Now, if you eat meat for reasons outside your control then I don't think anyone is going to pull you up on it too hard (except maybe yourself).
If you choose to break a self imposed label for reasons you have control over and in my opinion convenience is one of these, then you don't really have the right to continue to call yourself a vegetarian.
As you've pointed out though, your 1% is hidden stuff, so I'm assuming you have made a judgement call on whether you avoid things that could have hidden meat in them. You could just drop beer and wine totally or only buy ones you know to be vegetarian, but that is up to you. If you end up ingesting secret meat you were unaware of, then that's fine, because it's your label, not an absolute.
Likewise you can also make a judgement on telling your dinner host your dietary requirements and not go into the details about your hidden 1% which would only confuse things.
You were the one who introduced the idea of 99% vegetarian in this ITT, so you've kind of got yourself to blame. If you know you are eating meat and you have chosen to do so - *you are not vegetarian*.
My diet exists before the label I use to describe it (so its not a 'self imposed label' to be broken but a way to describe my diet, existence precedes essence).
What about when I look up recipes? Say I want to make a mousaka, would I be lying to myself if I googled 'vegetarian mousaka recipe'. Should I search 'mousaka no meat this time'.
on account of it doesn't eat meat occasionally
Like 99% of my diet. But according to the _raven's first post, my diet is 0% vegetarian if it contains any meat. But my diet consists of nothing but vegetarian moussaka. The moussaka is 0% vegetarian.
Guys, it doesn't add up.
Food with no meat in it is vegetarian.
A diet with no meat in it is vegetarian.
Food with some meat in it isn't vegetarian.
A diet with some meat in it isn't vegetarian.
Eat less meat if you want. Try to eat no meat at all if you want, but if you knowingly, and by choice, eat anything with meat in it, you're not a vegetarian.
is that 100% non-vegetarian? Is it all horse meat ?
glad we don't need to discuss this any further
it doesn't even work as a pun.
Manalysis - now there's a word I could get behind.
Dave R. & The Secret Barbecues
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£5 (£4 NUS)
Somebody who eats free range chicken/ eggs once a week or somebody who eats battery chicken/ unhappy eggs once a month. what do we think guys?
Better than both of these fictional people
is well off colleagues who buy battery eggs. I might eat meat, but I do buy free range poultry and look for responsibly sourced fish and meat.
endured by battery/free range ...
still eat seafood and had a chicken sandwich for lunch though
apart from days where i'm a vile racist
but i feel better, physically, when i avoid it
there's a word for the mostly vegetaiarn
here you go
learn something new everday
just someone that eats ffs
can't argue with those sources.
I've done it in this thread.
Have those posts been removed then?
i;m not totally convinced that you're the one on the wind-up
I was being serious in all my posts, and right too.
Close the boards, they're getting annoying.
on the list of things we don't need any more threads about?
They often go really well until I realise I had milk on my cereal in the morning. I find lunch is the tricky meal to have vegan, there are bugger all sandwich fillings that work. Tea is easy, just a veggie curry / chilli.
you don't get to label my diet or try and 'catch me out' on stuff, especially given how you're constantly going on about how little you care about it and oooh i couldn't give up bacon oooh but why did god create meat if it doesn't taste so nice zzzzzzzzzzzz
"oh but you say you're vegetarian but you ate some meat once so haha looks like you're not. Not got anything against it lol but all i'm saying is you're not"
same with vegetarians who go on about pescetarians. If someone wants to call themselves vegetarian then at least it shows they're thinking about it.
A one time eating of meat in the past doesn't from then on consign you to not being a vegetarian, that would be silly.
However, if your current diet contains meat and you know it then you are not a vegetarian
Two slices of toast with orange and ginger marmalade
A bowl of butternut squash soup
Some nuts and seeds
A can Irn Bru
AM I A VEGETRIAN ???? tell me, I can't stand not knowing :(
I expected more of a yes or no.
do you eat meat?
Is it just today you're here or can I ask again tomorrow?
although using my handy, cut out and keep guide you can answer that question yourself:
Q: Am I vegetarian?
How to tell:
Ask yourself if you eat meat?
If you do, then you are not a vegetarian
If you don't, then you are a vegetarian
We should ask marckee to be on the safe side
better get that faxed over to him asap so he can reach a verdict. Be sure to include prospective meals too, obviously.
Your deciding that someone is or isn't vegetarian, how significant is that?
Not significant at all.
Somebody's deciding to identify as vegetarian, regardless of fitting into your criteria, how significant is that?
but if you knowingly eat meat you're not a vegetarian.
There's no middle ground. You're entitled to identify with whatever you like, but you're only lying to yourself.
I probably will go swimming in the future, a few times I imagine.
I can still swim though.
I would call myself a swimmer. Am I a swimmer?
Haven't been for a couple of weeks and I don't plan to go next week when I'm on my period. I would say currently I go swimming every day. Can I swim?
Next week you can't.
Wow weak thought really is easy after all!
which is odd because that's normally the opposite of how you come across in debates. Let this one lie, eh? It's just getting odd.
vote no_ to yes_
Sort yourselves out for christ sake
Whether vegetarian type 1 (100.00%) or vegetarian type 2 (0.00%)
And now I can't because drownedinsound would desecrate it. Thanks guys.
when scientists exhume my body in thousands of years and note my 'vegetarian diet', none of you anally retentive losers will be there to stop them.
Guess everyone just loves bacon haha!
they are consumed in such quantities. I can't defend my eating of meat at all really.