kitchen is approx 3 x 3 metres
depends what base i'm working in
so from 3K - 12K
9 *square* metres.
but if it's less than 3.5k-5k then that would be useful, I'm looking at prices for a tiny kitchen now myself.
But could have gone cheaper. Like we've bought wood tops and stuff.
not too mention the other guff. Yep that's right I'm going to do it: CHINNY RECKON
or in fact any of the other details which could mean I would be able to tell if you're a chinny or not, nevermind you big fat liar.
we've got everything we need to say he's a FUCKING LIAR
And we "sourced" (bought) them off ebay.
I've never even thought of the possibility of buying kitchen worktops from ebay. What a world.
We bought the taps from there as well! Half the price of the B&Q equivalent. And the sink!
Now this is where it gets interesting :-
We paid £375 incl delivery for
1 X 3m X 72cm X 40mm
1 X 3m X 62cm X 40mm
you got a linky?
eg I'm looking at Innsbruck, 9 units, cheapest tops, cheapest appliances plus installation = £5562. 7 units is cheaper.
Everything at Wickes is loads cheaper, but you need a car to pick up the cheapest ones and hire your own person to fit it: http://www.wickes.co.uk/kitchens/icat/kitcheninst/
it's a bit of a minefield this
so much to research
I'm looking forward to getting my flat and going in and measuring everything, getting impatient!
Pritt Stick & glitter
you are the winner - this was a very fancy kitchen shop tho - i knew it was going to be out of budget
18k tesco kitchen? pfffffffffft
he man was very helpful and nice and not condensending even tho it became obvious very quickly that i wasn't going to spend 18k on a kitchen
whens the next one?
hallway carpet, perhaps
maybe a thread about tiles, or wood flooring tho.
something to look forward to
mate, this shit is gonna be immense. keep me posted
the totally solid stuff is longer lasting, but more pricey, I don't think we are going to be there for more than 5 years - so it's not worth going for the solid stuff really.
laminate is a bit gross really - might as well not bother
only slightly more expensive than good quality laminate. Looks good AND sustainable!
I've got family working at a timber merchants. Chris-budget, I can turn this into your dream home and save you thousands in the process.
Whether it's true that I can save you thousands depends on (a) the quantity of wood you need, and (b) your proximity to Glasgow/Lanarkshire area- if you're far away any savings might be cancelled out by stratospheric delivery costs.
It's hard to know what type of expression to have on your face when something like that happens - don't want to embarrass either of us by laughing out loud, don't want to look *too* into it since he must know I can't afford it and that would make him burst out laughing, trying not to be too enchanted by the admittedly nice feeling of being sold a half mill flat...think I just unconsciously morphed into a grade-2 spacker face
pretty good. But that's at least 3 times more than I'm willing to pay on a kitchen. Guy got a bit desparate and sad when it became apparent I wasn't going to stump up that kind of cash.
Not to Gil! Not today!
Skeletor is bound to try to sabotage it some how
an extractor oven hood and maybe replumbing the washing machine
Because I'll fit it for far less than they will if you buy everything. I'll need a week, but I'll do a really good job. Just fitted my brother's kitchen.
guys, guess what the VAT amount on my lunch receipt was
FUCK OFF THEN!
so I'd guess 12K for you?
if you were doing the quoting, then you must work there — in which case, you'd be stupid not to quote yourself a flat £0.
a chris-budget thread about money.
GIVE IT A BREAK, PAL.
why don't YOU give it a break
have a plate of peas or something
why don't YOU have a plate of peas
I wish this while fucking process would hurry up, you know?
it's a weird mix of things happening really fast, and then nothing happening for a week or so, and i kind of forget about it, and then it starts happening really fast again, and then nothing at all for a while, and i forget about it all, and then everything really fast again.
yeah, we're waiting on our vendors to find something themselves now. So it's been a slow couple of weeks. but I expect when they do everything will be pretty quick for a bit. I still feel like I have no fucking idea what I'm doing though.
just waiting for the vendors solicitor to send our solicitor some stuff now before getting it sorted. HURRY UP I WANT TO GO SEE MY FLAT AGAIN.
I'm a bit impatient but I WANT FOR IT TO BE OURS ALREADY!!! Can't wait to spend my weekends prancing about Forest Hill <3
ours is round the back of Sainsbury's, north of the town centre bit.
It seems so slow compared to renting where disreputable people demand huge amounts of cash off you straight away.
ours is about 10 minutes from the station, one of the roads off Stanstead Road.
yeah. literally all that's happened is we've had the offer accepted, and now we wait. the agents originally demanded solicitors names and that but we don't want to formally instruct anyone until the vendors have found somewhere.
there's no chain on our flat and in a way that's kind of making it slower. I'm quite casual about it so keep forgetting to phone up and pester everyone as often as I should. Getting there now though...
Except our solicitor buggered off on holiday last week and her secretary is lazier than me. Apparently they've said we will be ready to complete in just over 2 weeks. I'm nervous.
are you gonna be off Oxford Road?
* 2 years next month
^ people who can't afford to buy anywhere else
genuine question - haven't been there
Well, depends on your circumstances. If I was renting somewhere lively I certainly wouldn't choose Forest Hill as it's fairly quiet.
But for people wanting to get on the housing ladder, put your budget into Findaproperty.com and see where else in London comes up. If you're around the £250K mark and want more than 1 bedroom, you'll get Walthamstow, some parts around Leyton, FH way and then basically you're outside the M25. 2 years back we got a 3 bed house with garage and gardens 12 minutes walk from the station for under £300K. Not sure you can now.
The junior schools are all good in the area, the houses really nice (Victorian or well built 1930s) and the local areas which you can't afford to live in but like to visit sporadically are all accessible via bus (Greenwich, Crystal Palace, Sydenham Woods, Brixton, Blackheath, Dulwich are all one bus ride away).
FH is deceptively close to London Bridge (12 minutes on the train) and on the Overground which links it with Shoreditch, Camden, Highbury, Docklands, etc.
It's got enough good stuff on the high street to make you want to go there too (several great pubs, a renovated swimming pool, a few coffee cafes, an art gallery, Horniman Museum, a butchers, a late license pub that does comedy / local bands).
I think more than anything, it's perfect for people who want a bit of garden space and a spare bedroom but who still want to be within touching distance of town and can't bring themselves to relocate to some village in Kent just yet; like me and the wife.
AND LOOK HOW MANY OPPORTUNITIES I HAD UP THERE ^ ?!!
Crystal Palace and Sydenham are considered nice, unattainable areas now? The London property market is doing weird distorting things while I haven't been paying attention
Not too sure about Sydenham.
I, naturally, would also say that Leytonstone is worth a look too - especially the areas known as Bushwood and High Leytonstone (essentially anywhere between the Overground line and the Green Man roundabout). It's cheaper than Walthamstow, which, outside of the 'village' area doesn't have nearly as nice houses as Leytonstone, and it's a lot more family oriented and a lot less buy-ro-let dominated than Leyton. Price-wise Leytonstone is a bit more expensive than Forest Hill, but you can get 2 or three bed flat conversions for under the £250K stamp duty threshold.
my knowledge of London has a very big blind spot once you get any further south than Brockley. I looked at a place in Denmark Hill this week - never been there before either. Surprisingly nice. But South London feels very foreign to me
But we couldn't afford more than a 1 bed flat in Crystal Palace when we were looking.
Sydenham Woods are north west of FH weirdly and more towards Dulwich.
It's only 15 minutes or so from London Bridge,
It's now on the Overground,
It's got lots of late-victorian terraces houses/flats
It's cheaper than the equivalent places in north London
Sure, getting a tube there between 8:30 and 9 is an utter ballache thanks to those pesky city workers who don't realise Bank is a 10 minute walk away but as an area for an after hours pint, it's great. And when the newly redeveloped LB reopens in a few years time with trains that go straight through / have bigger platforms and shops, it'll be even better.
Is it actually a challenging piece of DIY or is it just a) a bit fiddly and b) a bit of a faff?
If it involves ripping everything out and plastering stuff, possibly doing some plumbing & rewiring or needing someone to come and connect gas fittings and stuff, then yeah, it can turn into a cunt of a job.
Cheers - yours and marckee's evidence checks out.
If the walls are square and smooth and the floor is level, and if you've got a galley kitchen, then it's pretty straightforward, assuming that all the plumbing and electrics are in the right place and you're fixing wall units back to brickwork.
Once you get out of that it starts to get a little complicated.
Helpful. I'm looking at buying somewhere next year but given my budget I'll probably need to look at buying a gaff that needs a bit of work. Need to factor in the additional cost of that...
but there were quite a few tips in there.
- Try and go for pre-assembled rather than flat pack units as they're much more durable.
- If you go for flat pack, go for something like IKEA. Despite them not allowing space for the plumbing at the back, their prices, range, flexibility and quality are better than the likes of Wickes or Magnet.
- John Lewis are pricey, but their fitting service is excellent.
- Don't buy the cheap appliances. They will not last.
- If you're going with a fitter, look at Howdens. They're a decent pre-assembled range that sell to trade only.
- Local kitchen makers and fitters will be more expensive than all the others as they tend to be bespoke.
- remember to plan out your plumbing, electrics, gas, and vents (boiler and cooker hood), and any drainage (including from tumble driers) as part of the design.
- use people like Poggen Poll for ideas. What you see in their range is what will be around for the next decade amongst the regular retailers - shaker kitchens with granite formica tops are already looking as undesirable as avocado bathroom suites did ten years ago.
It's a style modelled on the New England Shaker timber homes. The doors and drawers typically have a flat panel bordered by 'planks' around the edges. They're usually presented as beech, painted white, or an egg-shell blue.
They were quite trendy for a while back in the early-noughties, then very popular amongst the property developers influenced by Sarah Beeney, and now, as a consequence, associated with quick-buck refurb jobs that you'll have to rip out in only a few years.
You can get good, solid kitchens, but most of them are veneer finished these days anyway. If you like that style it's fine, but if you're looking to sell on, especially in London, it won't be the best option.
didn't even know what they were but I HATE those planked edges. We've started looking at places recently and they put me right off. Quite glad that's a legitimate response
but their other bits are too pricey.
depends how long you want all the stuff to last.
we've gone B&Q + local fitter + stuff off ebay. But we only want to be in the house another year or two. FUCK WHOEVER WE SELL TO!
Yup, so call it £125,000 and we'll sex you both?
but if not, I'd check with whoever you're getting to fit it - some people won't touch a B&Q kitchen because it's so difficult to put together compared to other places. Also, if you go with B&Q, make sure the guy who measures your kitchen isn't a complete moron who measures it wrong leaving you with units that won't fit the kitchen which you only realise having already assembled all of the units which then leads to many an angry phone call.
given that they're flat pack. And their fitting service is very expensive.
I think you can get Magnet kitchens pre-assembled, so they might be worth considering.
look on ebay. you can get some amazingly cheap kitchens, because people refit the house to sell it then the new owners don't want it and take it out. You could get a 20 grand kitchen for just £2000 if you're lucky.
But you probably want coraline surfaces don't you.
and a poured resin floor.
get a double-basin corner sink. amazing.
American fridge with an ice dispenser.
double oven and 6 ring hob.
i think we are going to have to give the coraline surfaces a miss this time
A cheaper, equivalent alternative to that is Hi-Macs from LG. It's the same product, albeit with a more limited range, and costs about a third less.
and i knew i'd got it wrong but couldnt be bothered to google it.
you knew what i meant
definitely look at ebay. i know a few people who have got kitchens from it
There's a conspicuously big turnout of the dadnetaratti in here - this is meat and drink to that crew
this stuff ain't for the Dadsnetters.
(Either that, or I've replied in the wrong place)
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