Your are viewing a read-only archive of the old DiS boards. Please hit the Community button above to engage with the DiS !
Is Theo's missus up the spout?
Evie Isla Thomas; 8 pounds 11; born to the sound of Shearwater covering Folk Implosion's Natural One on 6music.
Why wasn't I informed.
And maybe painful.
I'll be in every thread for the next 4 weeks. (I even posted in Chris_is_cool's thread yesterday)
so not "normal"
We need to get this Dadsnet thread back on track.
We built the empire on sugar... or possibly tea. Poss i bill e tea.
Are labotomies standard procedure for new parents these days? Don't think anyone completed a sentence the whole afternoon, bunch of thick baby-brained cunts.
well into my twenties, there's just something I don't know, rusky, about them.
but can you please tidy this thread up? It's all over the place
we know meths likes babyfood
just £2.50 which I thought was very reasonable as it was Finding Nemo brander (Pixar/Disney).
We just lie him down on top of a chest of drawers with a too-thin mat and a small ornate pillow for his head when changing him these days.
it's only going to be covered in piss and shit, not to mention what the baby does on there. Can I get a hell yeah fellow Dadsnetters
I reckon it's Meths. Can I get a hell yeah fellow Dadsnetters
he'd try to wear it like a brightly-coloured norse helmet
first use of okta and I am almost certain that was the first use of Bumbo.
It sends you here http://drownedinsound.com/users/meths
Baby swimming. £120 for 8 or 10 30 minute classes. Worth it or just luzz them in a canal a few times? You do get one Nevermind style photo for your £120.
reckon it'll be awesome
He's already been to the pool but not swimming as such.
what are swimming nappies like?
I bought them but didn't get to go to the pool as I had to go to work...
fortunately he's not shit in one yet: quite terrifed of the possibility to be honest.
which makes it worth it.
Battling all the other dads for one of the four family changing rooms is a personal highlight of my saturday morning.
whilst trying to wrap a woggle around him.
He wasn't best pleased.
What was this, combined swimming lessons and boy scouts meeting?
Just a four hour round trip but he likes a sleep in the car so it's all worth it.
Just take your sprog to the family session at the pool. Cheaper, and no need to fraternise with new mums
Pretty impressive to charge you £15 per session to take a kid to a swimming pool...
Our girl didn't quite get the basics in the first few lessons, got a bit left behind and the teachers started leaving her out of exercises, basically didn't give a shit. It's taken a good two years to try and rebuild her confidence to try again but we're not paying for lessons.
£60 for 10 classes. Your swimming baths are having a laugh.
I hope you enjoy Fathers Day.
Do you reckon you will score anything?
Due mid December.
Currently working on bringing forward my midlife crisis by about 10 years...
Hope my DiS Football days aren't numbered... my match preparation may not be ideal (as opposed to now, obviously)
Just in time for Best Newcomer at the awards night
I'm looking to make a football comeback soon. So you should only be out for a few months :)
Huge congratulations. Delightful news.
Very pleased for you :) xxx
Way to go, your penis!
Here endeth the most exhilarating, exhausting & surreal week of my life
IT'S A BEAUTIFUL NATURAL THING
but in the first few weeks, the smell was very akin to brioche from our two girls
I was warned that child birth did feature blood and not to worry about it. So, first time round there was a bit that flew out and landed on me while I was sitting at the non-business end. Still not sure how the laws of physics allowed this to happen, but they were trying to prise the baby out with a gigantic suction pad and some gargantuan meat-hooks.
This time round while the wife was pushing for all her worth she managed to blow a vein...I was the only person in the room who escaped the bloodbath. It was like something from a horror movie!
...mother and daughter doing great btw and they mopped the walls of the delivery room for about an hour
Starting to dawn on me that having more than one child might involve even less sleep and more hard work, but stoked otherwise
but your first may end up acting as entertainment for your second... so i don't think it's double the work if you see what i mean!
Girlfriend a bit horrified that I described the post-birth scene as like a 'butcher's shop window'
yeah, it's all the takeaway pots with the various bits of ... ugh makes me feel a bit queasy thinking about it
The baby coming out is fine but the placenta... the midwife wrapped the umbilical cord round her hand like she was in the tug of war and started pulling. The biggest surprise is that that bag of nastiness doesn't stink... how is that possible?
(some people take it home and fry it up with some onions for dinner).
If I was within a metre or so of a giant poo I would smell it. This giant thing was scentless.
like the Ikea high chair?
I presume it is the case in other countries as well, but it's combination of cheapness, simplicity, durability and ease of cleaning means that in Australia I don't think I have seen any person or restaurant with a different high chair for years.
We have two, one for eating inside and for eating outside. Lasted three kids, will no doubt last for the fourth, and look like I could be passing them on to grandkids one day.
there weren't any Ikeas near where we were living at the time of our first, so I don't ours was one.
Didn't realise they're selling the tray separate these days, but anyway $30 for both you can't go wrong. The tray comes off easily to clean or if you want the child sat in there without it.
To see in the flesh check out the high chairs in just about any restaurant.
people in Perth from flocking there from all corners.
When they opened their new store it clogged up the Cedric street almost back to Glendalough every Saturday morning for months.
We were living in a rural Victorian town when our first came. Nearest Ikea was in Packenham, about 90 minutes drive away.
Appealing to the bogan market from Frankston perhaps?
Apart from being a short trip to Gippsland, the only thing going for Pakenham is its proximity to the delightfully named nar nar goon.
because this was before the bypass was finished.
I just realised, though, that the Ikea was in Narre Warren (Fountain Gate), not Pakenham. Hardly an improvement.
Isn't that where Kath and Kim lived?
was the first time I'd ever encountered a pub in a shopping mall.
We're growing stronger my friends.
and hopefully I'll have 1 more before the week is out
Hope it all goes well.
Fingers crossed my family grows by one in the next 48 hours too. SQUEE.
Posting this from the hospital
Waaaah, is she underway then? Please keep us posted :)
The more the merrier (in my experience)...
that was a long, strange and exhausting experience
after 27 hours of labour our little girl arrived at 10:45 last night
the whole deal was made even more surreal by it all occurring in the room immediately next door to the room we were in last year where we had our still born Violet - I nearly had a freak out when they showed us in and the whole beautiful experience has a stripe of melancholy running through it but that's to be expected I guess
all's well that ends well
but with so much humility and respect for the female body that I feel quite inadequate as a male and can't begin to understand how exhausted my better half must feel
TMI THANKS EVERYONE
Hope you all get to spend loads of time together :)
hope so too (I'll make sure of it)
congratulations to you. what's her name? she shares a birthday with me.
She's called Penelope June - Penny or Poppy for short depending on your preference
happy Birthday for 2 1/2 weeks ago x
I've been a dad for 6 weeks.
It is fucking awesome.
Thanks for listening everyone!
The first few weeks are a blur, try to enjoy it :)
Nappies are getting a bit messy but nothing as bad as the early ones!
Probably deserves its own thread...but my new daughter has already had two nappy spillages today - we're talking luminous orange tides of destruction. Good work for a littlun though!
Any news from Body_In_The_Thames?
How the fuck did that get there? Then you see the force of it coming out without a nappy...
Our firstborn due 1st December.
It was like something out of the Exorcist
and reached his shoulder blade. I applauded him. Actually stood there and clapped.
Got in the bath, shat immediately, got hoiked out, bath drained (he's on the wean so the poo was fairly solid, had to break it up with my fingers so it went down the drain), bath cleaned, refilled, plonked straight back in.
*a hearty congratulations to B_I_T_T on the birth of his baby girl
* Balonz now refers to himself in the 3rd person and as the boy wonder.
Have we had a Dadsnet boy or girl audit yet? One day my friends, one day.
I now choose clothes based on what dads should wear, it's a very odd thing but I'm really self conscious about it :/
Also, me and my 2 yr old boy have matching superman t-shirts now, we played football using brooms to hit the ball and I showed him where all the biggest spiders live in the yard. his is what dads are meant to do, yes?
compared to, say, people talking about their weddings, holidays, dreams, phones, what's happened on Facebook, etc, etc?
gotta be up there, surely?
and there are a couple of especially touching posts above which i'd exclude, for sure.
in it then it's pretty dull.
everything is above dreams. Apart from maybe exercise routines. Nope that's still above dreams, that's how bad talking about dreams is.
Any meal recommendations for a seven month old?
Likes: nearly all fruit, cauliflower cheese, chicken with cottage cheese, butternut squash, yoghurts.
Hates: bananas, some chicken salad thing I made, parsnip, quinoa, lumpy stuff.
Loads of middling stuff too like fish pie, dal, goats cheese polenta etc that will be eaten under mild protest
basically, we'd reserve a few small portions of pumpkin soup or whatever, and then add some cous cous as we reheated it for the baby. Always went down well.
apart from the cous cous might go the way of the quinoa.
Have to make your own stock for that too...
I suppose you don't use that much of it. Knocking up some veg stock isn't too much of a hardship.
As well as normal risotto, pearl barley risotto was a particular favourite.
but then again I did used to have cartons of five alive and capri-suns in my lunchbox so treat me with well deserved suspicion
We just fed our kids leftovers of we what we were eating (bearing in mind that we mostly eat pasta and rice dishes).
Salt reduced stock?! wtf are you all on about?
Okay, I now realise that you intended no irony when you titled this thread "Dadsnet".
Our boy is getting proper fussy at the moment: won't eat tomatoes (unless skinned); mushrooms; green beans; loads of other vegetables. He loves pretty much all fruit now though, which is good.
He's also a huge fan of cous cous, falafels, hummous and breadsticks. He's middle class and he knows it.
You trying to choke my son?
My fruenbd does this and it's been brilliant. the baby ends up telling you (or rather you work out by a process of eliomination) what he wants. I think the trick is to cut the food into bite/ biteable size pieces (chip-size sticks are good too) and see what they pick up and feed themsleves. be prepared for mess and mush. Steamed carrots and courgette batons are good, as is manngo because of its slippery texture. God they love that. (also, they ALL fucking love avocado, it seems. So meesy.) it also means you get to be really proud and boast when they CHOOSE the brocolli.
baby-led weaning definitely worked for us. Also had the policy of giving him the same dinners as us since he was about 9 months. It's worked well! No need for baby food slop really.
If you can get them to eat a baby-ified (i/e/ not seasoned so much) version of what you guys are having, then you're onto a winner. Plus it gets them interested in food and lets them interact. Can't bear pureed muck.
really excited about it - our daughter is already very interested in fruit and has had grabbed a few tastes already - she loves it
some dad did it today at the bus stop. It was a total bodge job, he was only lifting one side of her up and her other foot was on the floor and the wee was tricking to her sandal. Then because he was rushing her hat fell in the wee.
Didn't help that I was staring, thinking what an embarrssing thing to have to do.
What are you sleeping your young in? His room is 28-29C at the moment. He's in just nappies and a 0.5 tog grobag which is open all the way. Considering going just nappy.
by the morning for just a nappy in his room.
It's a bit easier this summer: dealing with the heat last year with a 2-4 month old was horrible.
just a light sleeveless suit and sheet.
This weekend she's leaving her basket and going into a cot next to our bed. Then it'll be grobags.
On the subject of grobags, how many do you have? They're not cheap - one nappy leakage and you're a bit buggered if you've only got the one.
You can usually get them pretty cheap at NCT sales and stuff.
He hated his grobag at first, took a week of battling but it was well worth it in the end, much easier and peace of mind.
She's already napped in hers a couple of times and seems not to mind. I'm really looking forward to it because at the moment even though my wife is BF I still have to get out of bed to tuck her in as she thinks I do a better job :/
That said, this weekend will be tiring because we're planning to watch her all night in shifts to see what she does with regards rolling around onto her front in her sleep in the cot. Probably be fine, but would still like to keep an eye
they take ages before they can roll over so that wasn't a worry for us up to six months.
John Lewis etc do their own versions of sleep bags which are just as good but cheaper than the proper grobag stuff.
I remember them not being much cheaper, but it could have been that the patterns weren't as good
As you were.
fan on full blast, sash windows fully open
Is there a word for that?
Yesterday, I called out a woman who was sitting in her car, in a parent and child space, smoking a cigarette, with no children in tow. Took her registration number and everything. Did bugger-all about it afterwards, though.
So - parent and child spaces? A crafty marketing ploy? Essential for those with kids in child seats? Should be out of bounds to norfolk nans with no kids?
It annoys me when you see someone get out and they have a ten year old with them.
I wouldn't actually mind if they weren't the closest to the supermarket, it's all about the door opening space.
of a buggy on the ground so conceivably if you can fit in a buggy then you and your Mum can park in one.
What's annoying is when you see someone clearly with no kid, adult or otherwise, parked in one. Nearly got into a row with a bloke who looked like Riddick Bowe who parked his van in one of the spaces. Would have killed him obviously.
Otherwise I could go with my mum.
Am horrendously nervous.apart from telling us what sex it is what else can we expect?really can't wait to see another scan though.im sure ill burst into tears with happiness like last time.
that we got very worried about number 2, it's only natural - good luck!
When we went to tesco.does it count if the baby's still in the belly?
as a heavily pregnant woman your mobility is compromised by reasons of being a mum-to-be. Also, you maybe have bladder issues that mean you don't want too far a walk between car and supermarket. I think yuou'd have to be a complete thunderclunge to pull up an obviously pregnant woman for using one of these spaces.
My girlfriend told me not to be a dick the other day.i will tell her someone on dis said it was fine.no more parking miles away for us from now on.woo hoo!!!!
I appreciate that kids have to play and will make noise, etc, but seperate supermarkets for non-parents would be a super invention. I went to one of those huge Tesco stores yesterday, and there were kids running around screaming everywhere. In one aisle there were three kids having a game of football using the ends of the aisle as a net ffs, and there was a girl in the drinks aisle just pulling everything off the shelves.
Now, i'm no miserablist (honest), and people who get annoyed by kids is equally something i find a bit unecessary, it's not their fault, but lots of parents really don't give a fuck. Not asking for them to be banned or owt, just seperate shops for people who like going about their day in peace and that. Cheers.
It's hard enough now for parents to hold down a job, juggle childcare and keep a household going, without also finding themselevs locked out of shops at peak times. Find a 24 hour store, and go after 8pm. Simples.
there's also another thing I do regarding annoying children which works wonders- ignore them.
I think i'm turning into a mum.
if I couldn't control my children in Tesco, I wouldn't take them there.
(my sister's two week old has started sleeping virtually right through the night. Takes after her lazy aunt. Not that we expect it to last.)
mine'sjust woken up from her nap so gonna go
Just found out it'll be a boy. Early December. We will be outnumbered.
i still don't like pearl jam.
That was the most nerve wracking 25 mins of my life.especially when the midwife spent ten mins studying the heart.everything fine and dandy and yay we're having a baby girl.so amazingly happy!
the whole scan experience is pretty amazing.
but i am fucking knackered.
You have to be quite firm, but also not break their back. It's scary.
(Bicycling her legs for her basically)
but scolded many a new parent for not stocking up on Infacol to avoid the misery of a baby with trapped wind.
on the subject of the birth... did anyone read Quentin Letts' article about feeling and actually being utterly useless during labour? By the third he seemed to have opted for the wait outside with the cigars ready brand of uselessness. I empathised with what he was trying to say but at the same time I wanted to slap him for not trying hard enough! We had one awful, prolonged, bad experience first (three days pretty much) followed by a reasonably straightforward second birth (water births! yeah!).
(There you go, Jacques.)
That's very sweet, you wonder what they could possibly be giggling and dreaming about? I presume you read her some of my posts before you put her down to sleep.
For some reason I assumed you had a boy.
She's actually pretty good at going to sleep normally. If needs be, my MP3 player has this continual heavy rain sound loop that we play. If she's crying because she can't get to sleep you just play it loudly enough that she hears that over her crying and then she stops and falls to sleep soon after.
Was invaluable in getting our boy off to sleep over the first few weeks.
I ended up dreaming about washing machines a bit more than I'd like though.
did fuck all but I quite liked it.
on Tuesday...hurrah! This is where having a two bed house with only one of you working starts to become a problem.
easy or a bit of a mare?
key is not to discuss it with anyone other than your partner as everyone has an opinion and most of them are shit.
Luckily the wife had put together a list.
I only scotched 'Mabel Iris' because in my mind it sounded like a condition your optometrist tells you you're suffering with.
We had a name that we both decided on fairly early but then about 5 months after she was born came to the conclusion that it didn't really fit so got it changed.
She's already got one passport. The other one is pending. It would be a bit nuts if we decided to change it now. Hopefully that won't happen.
no passport at that stage and if you change it within 12 months then there's no charge and it's fairly straight forward. Meant the personalised gifts she got at Christmas were no longer correct but it's a story she can tell when she's older about how inept we were.
and i'm glad i'm read it.
boy's names are hard.
I think they're both equally tricky
We went 'rare'. Not sure we're quite ready to find some ultra-weird name, but equally there are millions of Kates, Elizabeths and so ons. But obviously we're in a minority, or else all names would be equally rare.
Don't you Dans, Toms, Sarahs, Robs, etc. get a bit tired of having to be qualified by last name and the like when being referred to in friend groups?
I'm not having a go, just genuinely interests me where the choices of names come from.
He almost got called Cosmo, I wanted it but we met so much opposition that I backed down in the end. The second choice is pretty fucking cool anyway.
Singin' in the rain ftw
which could go both ways I suppose
in a lame joke implying an improvement over Danger as a middle name.
Were always looking for something rare though
I think a classic name works most of the time and it definitely helps if you can shorten it. Works when they are babies, toddlers, teenagers and adults.
The test is can you imagine shouting out the name loudly in a park? C'mon Cosmo time to go home. Not on my watch.
he'll probably be dripping in it more now though, to be fair.
what are these rare names you've chosen?
I just don't imagine there'll be more than her with the name in her class. Although, obviously, this shit is hard to judge. Maybe everyone else picked the same stuff this year and she'll be awash.
In my class at school there were FOUR Dannys. And three of them were next to each other in the register.
Found it much easier to find names we both hated (most of them).
just to plant that seed of doubt in there. I tell them that this is exactly what I'm doing tbf, and that I may or may not secretly actually like it, but that's the game. Are you man enough to stay the course with a name under the first opposition you encounter? I'm providing a service in a way
But not something I'd expect anyone on this site to do. We're all above that, right?
I just spent £520 on a dolls house.instantly regretted it as she s not even here yet.need to stop getting giddy and buying stuff on a whim.on the plus side its the best coffee table ever.....http://design-milk.com/qubis-haus-dual-purpose-coffee-table-and-dollhouse/qubis-haus-1/
My girlfriends going to kill me
500 on a coffee table seems a good start.
no use without them.
You my friend are the epitome of the phrase 'more money than sense'. I admire you.
I'm trying to cancel the order.also got easy to swallow items ffs.im the most rubbish father ever.but it's all new to me.my heart was in the right place though
I'll give you £500 for it, then you can keep the table
Just read that back. Don't think I should be offering to purchase children. The line stops at offering warny's kid out for a punch-up
i need to talk about some things.
Do you still get any help at the start with vouchers, milk tokens, nappies etc? A few people at work told me you do (not that I expected it) but when I looked on the Gov.co.uk site it was pretty complicated and suggested we wouldn't because the wife isn't currently working...?
We don't even recall when we sent off the letter or anything so now we have to try to work out what has happened.
We were also promised free residents' parking tickets. None have arrived.
The wife has only just discovered there's a card you can get with your doctor's signature that gives you free prescriptions and sorts out your free dental care and the like. GRRR.
They should be easy. But not in the middle of the night. :(
Also, I've noted that the phrase 'Moo-cow' is used. No other animal gets this. No 'bark-dogs' or 'oink-pigs' or 'miaow-cats'.
which is roughly the moment the baby starts to cry.
or am I making this up?
any of you tree-huggers use them?
I think you have to be pretty dedicated to parenting and nothing else, to be honest, as you'd be forever hand-washing them since machine washing would completely defeat the object, surely?
I figure this is better than landfill. Who knows. It seemed like a good idea at the time but they are pretty rank.
But my god, you must need so many of them.
We didn't bother using them for the first few months but now she's on solids they're not too bad. We've saved money in the long run but I don't know if I'd recommend them to new parents.
very excited to join the Dadsnet crew :-D
rated good (which is average). Cost £1,467 pcm.
dunno how much it is. Hope it's not that much.
Might be worth finding out the pricing...
but it is more expensive per day if you go fewer than five.
We use a childminder, best decision I've ever made
One of our clients is an ofsted outstanding one with flexible slots and an awesome online booking tool
maybe she could adopt my son and take him there.
Think we are going with a childminder for three days a week, my mum can take him one a week and my wife will drop down to working four days a week. Maternity leave will seem like a time of plenty...
Last time this happened a vast mountain of mustardy muck poured out the side of her nappy...we were in a restaurant with family at the time and only noticed when we heard a huge splat on the floor. Apparently this is normal for breastfed babies! Bit worried all the same...
TWO WEEKS! My 11-week old is farting a lot and going once every 48 hours, as long as they're feeding and weeing normally it's no problem.
Family want to buy us a pram / travel system and after a bit of digging, I'm utterly baffled by all the mixed reviews. Anyone got a machine they love?
it really is a nightmare because they all seem to have different strengths and weaknesses, and they're bloody expensive!
Mother Preludes signed up for the Which? £1 trial and they have a whopping encyclopaedia of knowledge with safety tests and the like which we'd have been lost without. Plus you can download and save/print all everything else you like on cameras and stereos and stuff while you're at it.
Fwiw we went for a Mothercare Orb (secondhand off the eBaids) and a new Maxicosi something or other.
Pros: Nice and manoeuvrable plus it has this thing where you just pull the handle in the middle to fold it flat!
Cons: When the fuck do you fold a pram flat when you have groundfloor access, enough space to store the pram unfolded and don't have a car? Very very rarely. So we probably should have got the Maclaren.
It's also a bit wide. But if you have got a car and/or you expect to need to fold the pram then the City Mini is hard to beat. If you get one then we've got the cot accessory bit if you need that, saving you about £80 of buying the bugger, although you'd need to get to Archway to collect it off us.
As the little one has grown and we developed the backs of 80 year olds we purchased a second hand bugaboo cameleon for 150. It's alright, but a bit unwieldy and even folded up it takes up a hell of a lot of room. Also mini_ravens doesn't like it, so we usually end up carrying her anyway. Navigating public transport is a bit of a palaver / sometimes not really possible. The bugaboo bee might be a better option idk
I've heard that the sling we've got (baby bjorn) isn't very good for your back vs some others so we're going to try a few from a sling library.
Got a maxi-cosi for the car but not with isofix or whatever, because nowhere does it say that it's safer other than reducing fitting errors. So if you can read instructions you'll be fine.
I can second the recommendation to get a Which subscription
Quite pricey but we were lucky that my Dad offered to pay for it as he'd already done the same for my sister.
+ It's compatible with some car seats (we bought one that fits on it for £30 second hand) which makes it a lot easier going out in the car as you only have to bring the chassis.
+ It handles bumps really well, turns within it's own length and you can easily maneouvre it one-handed - personally I prefer the three-wheelers to the shopping trolley wheel set-ups on other prams. Also it's not as long as a lot of other pushchairs and is really light.
+ You can buy all sorts of attachments for it like parasols and cup holders - we went for the changing bag which clips onto the chassis, which again is really handy rather than having to lug an extra bag around on your back.
+ The chassis & pram fold down flat & the wheels are easily removeable.
- It's really wide, getting on a bus or going round a shop with narrow aisles can be a real squeeze, and the first few times I took it out I kept running over people's feet...
- There's not much carry space underneath & you can't hang anything heavy off the handle as it affects the suspension, so if you're going shopping with it you'll usually need to take a backpack.
- Not as easy to get up steps or curbs as a four-wheeler is. Also being on three wheels & quite tall by pushchair standards, the centre of gravity is high so it's more likely to tip over.
- They're very popular so even second-hand the various extra bits are expensive.
- The brake is a bit fiddly to operate and it can be difficult to tell if it's on or not.
bloody scary shit. should all be ok but having to be on my best behaviour and the missus is pretty petrified.
Is it baby related, if you don't mind me asking? We really ought to meet for a pint prior to a Blues match at some point too.
Thanks for the advice so far up there folks
but this one is massive. They can occur any time and only get picked up at a regular ultrasound visit. Sometimes the change in hormones during pregnancy can cause them. Hers hasn't caused any problems so it's been a shock, and while the op shouldn't do anything bad to the baby, there are still some risks and so it's a bit nervy.
Pint at a game would be great!
Hope all gies well
Yeah, good luck! :(
operation went well. felt weird posting on here about it but if anyone else goes through something through this then I guess you're not alone. Was scary but operation was a success and everyone is well. yay!
As one of the Dadsnet Founding Fathers (DFF) I would like to say we are all happy that the operation was a success and everyone is well.
First swimming and first solid food.
The swimming was pretty much an unmitigated disaster. There always has to be one baby at these things that is the bawler with flustered looking Dad doing his best whilst trying to ignore the pitying stares from everyone else. That was us on Saturday. She really hated it. But we've paid for the term, so we're going to persevere... Although the water was a bit on the cold side (she had to wear wetsuit) and it was very cramped in the swimming room, so we'll see.
Food though was awesome. We had a roast dinner on Saturday night and just put some chicken, carrots and broccoli in front of her at the table and she was all over them. Sunday was cheese omelette at breakfast time, some left over veg in the park at lunch and a quick bit of mango in the evening. A rather surprising amount has made it through her, although we had to wait until this morning to see any poo which had us worried because she's always been a fairly consistent 2+ movements per day kind a gal.
She loved it. The pool was about 34C, though, so it was pretty damn sweaty.
We also discovered no supermarkets or Boots, etc. can offer you points on purchasing of formula for pre-6 month old babies. Fucksake!
But very annoying...
formula companies get round this by producing 'follow on' and toddler milk which babies do not need and is virtually the same as the pre-six month stuff in a different tub...
We also hadn't planned to move to the post 6 months one as they are the same (allegedly) but now we have a reason.
I think they need to swing the anti-bottle feeding pendulum back a little. Ours just would not take the breast but it was a real nightmare to get to the point of us being okay with that. It seems like breastfeeding is a nightmare for loads of mums, going by all the ones we know.
That shit is USEFUL, maaaaaaaaaaaaaan.
meat, veg, eggs, veg, fruit, etc.
kids have to have a bit of junkfood in there somewhere.
V is loving it which is great as his hatred for nursery knew no bounds
Think off all those days off you can take now KIDFREE
where your baby sits up top under a canopy, like some sort of colonial Indian Elephant carriage and can pull your hair 'til your eyes water?
However everyone I see carrying them looks like a cunt. I think the good ones are £150+
not really much of a change for you, though, right?
If you get cheaper ones, thay have bits on the side that dig into you, so best going with a more costly one, think baby bjorn (them of the sling fame) do one?
In other dad news, got my daughter into the school we wanted, with a good secondary within striking distance. I am to understand this is middle class holy grail. We moved recently and my daughter was left without a place, a week ito the term the council still hadn't sorted it out so I emailed our local head for advice, turns out a place had just become available and she started there last Monday. I amost cried when it got sorted, it's pathetic how much a good school place is worth. I was all for moving again just to keep her out of St Bastards Pre-Teen Rape and Crack Shed Primary, if it came to that.
and having them on a rucksack under a canopy behind you sounds a bit ridiculous. There is so much unneccessary equipment that people try to flog you when you've got a kid.
The baby in front can get in way if you have to retie your shoelaces or move fences or the like. And it's much lower down, where stuff is that you might well wade through (I mean nettles, brambles etc.
So the backpack one, given you'll also have stuff to carry, is a good idea. The rain covering/ sun covering is very impressive and the baby also gets to be very high up and look out over you.
Forget about all the moving fences and wading through brambles bullshit.
I'm trying to convince myself it's worth the outlay but clearly it's not.
but you could probably get away with a sling unless you're doing some serious walking.
The one with the hip straps. I guess we'll just go with that.
still in the garage if any of you ever pass Wiltshire way you can have it no problems
is good if you do lots of country walks, until your child insists on 'walking' them and you never lose sight of the car despite being out for over an hour
Having researched a little I've sort of gone off the idea now I know you have to buy the sodding sun/rain bit separately. WTF? Hello, licence to print money!
really cheers me up at times.
the end of this week (already late - not being punctual is not a good quality to have in my army) so any suggestions for girls names are most welcome as we're still not set on one and there might have been some that I've missed. Much obliged.
is a good name i think.
if she doesn't arrive unitl next week, you could call her Octavia (after one of my favourite Jilly Cooper books.)
hope all goes well, and look forward to the announcement.
What's good? We may have to get three, for me, my wife and one for the grannies/aunts/etc to share.
Are the 1-11 year ones any good? Should I get 1-4 years instead? How do they attach? Do you need bases for them? I have an easy-base for our current maxicosi but don't really want to shell out for two more...
Leaning towards the Pebble at first, but then it only has the EasyBase or FamilyFix base. I think the FamilyFix works with the Pearl, but the EasyBase is just for the newborn seats (Pebble and Cabriofix)
Come on people with children over a year old!
I haven't. I don't know them but what the fuck? Surely you invite both parents. That means a Sunday, or at least a substantial part of it, that I don't get to spend with them.
This is just a whinge really.
and don't invite them
I got this for my newborn niece because I am a top, top uncle:
disappointed to discover that he is not a dragon.
Not as disappointing as when I found out that Captain Calamari is in fact an octopus. How are you supposed to educate kids nowadays?
Looks like Albi the Racist Dragon if anything, main reason I bought it.
Wife spent many moons researching the hell out of it and we were pretty undecided when we checked it out, but the fact that a kid can sleep in the pram bit overnight was a winner. Also adapts well if you have a second kid and good for putting shopping in.
Did make me laugh though how much people talk this shit up. One store told us they had an MOT workshop out back for people needing to do things to their travel system. AN MOT WORKSHOP!?!?! It's not a fucking 4x4, it's going to go up and down the road a lot and maybe over some loose chippings.
Was looking for the 'pram section' but there wasn't one.
Pretty much just these things now that do everything from birth until they can walk. Though many folks have told me that from 6 months on, their kid was either in a sling, crawling or in a cheap fold up buggy
I fell out with every mainstream baby supplies retailer because no one could properly explain the difference between a pram, a buggy, a push chair, a stroller, a travel system etc etc. In the end I vowed to buy the bloody thing from whoever could give me an answer that i understood. As it was this splendid chap in an independent place took me aside and said;
"ere, mate, I know it's confusing, but you honestly don't need all that crap, what you want in real life, living in a city is BLANK".
Massive sale achieved and have been back for everything since. Suck on that Mothercare.
we're looking at the bugaboo cameleon. anyone got any experience with it?
But then I guess the little fuckers grow fast.
Wife's friend had one (I think, there are a few models so might be wrong); generally loved the simplicity and design of it. Also a bit lighter than most. She felt it was quite a lot more money for what it was though but handy on public transport.
and so lightness and simplicity would be great, not too much fussed about the size. I think it's a bit of an illusion as well, the footprint isn't really any bigger than the Uppababy or iCandy which to the eye look smaller.
Yeah the price is a bit of an issue. Hoping to negotiate a deal with the car seat and bits cos everything is pretty pricey (and I can't really talk the missus down from everything having to be pretty high-quality).
Get woth the Uppababy Vista, it is das bomb. Totally love it, and other than a slight problem post easyjet flights (our fault really for not removing the wheels) I give it a full 10/10. Cheaper than the Bugaboo and def better/less for wankers. You can also get it in none-more-black black wheels, black frame, black seat. I couldn't get that one so got the AFC Bournemouth styled red and black. It totally slays.
Great buggy that, and given our recent damage could use that MOT service....
To (perhaps now pointlessly) clarify:
First 2 lines are about the Vista, second half of the post from 'Wife' onwards are about Chameleon.
In other news; kids - really annoying aren't they?
Daddy Preludes reporting for duty. Ickle wickle Martha arrived Sunday night. This shit is bananas.
I bet you're half dead by now, day 5 dad.
Now we've got over a bit of jaundice snoozy feeding, she's really good and we've had like 4 - 5 quiet hours for the last few nights.
This lark is easy - haven't even cried today.
see also: Toca Boca
over the weekend we gave up and just gave the boys the ipad, took all our stuff off so now they can ipeng the ghostbusters theme over and over and play aerox to their hearts content without us imagining them all over our ebay/internets/facebooks
It really works. I can't believe she's teething at 3 months :(
has she got an amber teething necklace? they are very good!
I think we're a bit funny about the thought of putting something around her neck, because she's very forceful and I wouldn't put it past her to deliberately garrote herself. Would defnieitly consieder it though if it really helps. Her poor little fist is never out of her mouth and her cheeks are scarlet.
he wore one from 4 monthsish until about 3yrs :)
I used to put it around his ankle at night/naps so he wouldn't mess with it when I wasn't watching, worth a try! they are fairly cheap.
Also: freeze flannels for her to chew on!
and also the frozen flannels! what a brilliant concept! Thanks :)
everyone thinks every symptom under the sun is teething. Until you see a tooth you don't know it is teething.
Also I was told to never give a baby anything that had been frozen. Fridge yes but frozen no.
and she is extremely angry at the world. She might just be like her aunt, of course.
I have heard dozens of symptoms over the past year and have thought mine was teething plenty of times when he wasn't. Our consultant told us what I said above - they are teething when you see the teeth.
We spotted a new one the day before yesterday which is why I have been up since 5.30.
we are maybe just over panicking as she's also refluxy and colicky, which could explain the drooling and the anger.(or as before, she might just be like her aunt, of course).
He's only really got over it the last couple of months. He was on loads of domperidone and ranitidine. Then one day we just stopped giving it him and it seemed to stop - coincidental I would imagine.
I've never know such a small creautre to create so much gas, nit even the pugs can compete. Suspect it might get better once she's weaned in a couple of months. (I've just checked my calendar and she's actually 4 months old next week. BEST FOUR MONTHS EVER <3)
all is well or as well as my first day back at work after 3 weeks off can be.
CHRISTMAS PRESENTS What are you getting your little ones? (I am looking for some inspiration so I am especially interested in what you are getting your 6-9 months babies, thanks.)
& Danny Bakers Own Goals and Gaffs (2013 Redux)
I think I Just got her some books and stuff. This year going to bombard her with Duplo.
not what I was hoping for from a web link with "Hippychick-WBCOWS-Wheelybug-Ride-on" in it
I love it, but I suspoect the puppy weill try to mate with it. I really like these- that is a brilliant shout.
so we got her a similar cow-based ride on thing which she totally loves. In a moment of terrible parenting though we gave it to her, let her play with it for about ten minutes, then took it off her so we could commence the bed time wind down. But she, for some reason did not want to wind down. In fact was fucking furious. 3 hours later, she went to bed.
She is a girl who knows her own mind! I like angry baby girls.
or perhaps becuase, totally knows her own mind and is stubborn, just like both her parents. Bedtime reading is starting to become a pain as she just bloody loves it too much, and is really clear on what she wants to read, so you can get 25 books out, then she will simply say (in a crushingly cute voice) "no" when you hold them up , in turn until finally one gets the hallowed "yes" and you are off. But she enjoys it more than it relaxes her. Feels a bit like if I played the drums to wind down at night.
available only from ebay at highly extortionate prices for 30 yr old plastic
also: books, lego, nerf guns
6 months old ideas: jumperoo! (I'd go secondhand), a vtech walker, wooden blocks, sensory balls/blocks, animals, musical instruments, ride-on toy
laughing his nut off as soon as he gets in one. I would get him one but he's going to be too old for it very soon. So yeah, jumperoo - plus if you are buying it for someone else it is a massive lump of plastic that they are going to have to deal with.
it's nice to be back.
I can't believe that Jules (Aus MC) is half Thai. If this makes me a racist then I'm going to have to live with that.
so she is 1/4 I suppose? have to wait for family reunion time, if she gets there
nice to see Liliana go out on rainbow cake...WHAT was she thinking?
I thought her dad must have the most powerful genes in creation.
Yeah, I'm sure it was tasty but crazy choice.
I wonder if mine is still at home.
anyone has unwanted ghostbuster toys I WILL BUY THEM
but nearly everything is gone now apart from the stay puff marshmallow man, kept that for sentimentality or something.
probably gone too
I was telling osmebnody at the weekend that my dreamn is to have a Ghostbusters tote bag.
I think between my brother and I we had just about every ghostbuster toy.
My sister is getting her a jumperoo, so it's good to hear that they are popular! (I actually quite fancy one myself....)
V tech walkwer lkooks like just the ticket, cheers . I am also going to get her some musical things because I haven't made my sister hate me for quite a while.
1. how do things catch on fire?
2. how do people catch colds?
my answers, i felt, were not helpful.
We use "Baby Swimming" which was £120 for nine half hour classes and an extra tenner for photos. We have now been told that they are raising the prices to £140 (plus extra for photos).
I am shocked and appalled.
What are you paying?
No photos. Why would you want photos?
What are the company you do it with called?
So you pay a third of what I do. What am I going to do?
So do you and your kid have to be members and then they bung in one lesson a week for free?
Classes are for parent and child and you don't have to pay any extra for you going along. I think you can also take them for free at other times during the week but can't confirm this.
Just go to the pool and talk to them about it I guess.
because some kid somewhere got bruises and the parents blamed it on a teacher holding them too tightly and threatened to sue. Hoping to get it sorted soon, but it's made lessons approximately 10 times shitter at the moment - the teacher just wanders round the side telling us what to do.
I'd check with your pool whether they're following that policy too as I'm considering quitting lessons unless they sort it out soon.
So it's only gone from £130 to £140.
I bet it's well easy.
Once you've done a few sessions, more for your own confidence of what you can do with them, just taking them regularly to your local pool is the most important thing until they are a bit older and can actually following instructions to learn the strokes.
it was but I think it was pretty reasonable. Didn't bother with the photos.
and it's fine. Probably about a tenner a lesson or something? It's impressively technical though, you're not just in the pool with your baby so I felt like it was value for money.
I pay £50 for 10 half hour sessions and I'm sure they offer parent and baby session too
If you know any local primary schools that have their own swimming pools it might be worth a call to see if one runs from there.
give me a shout when you think this thread is ready to have a breastfeeding discussion.
The Biscuit Man.
Already discussed a weak latch with my boss this morning. I consider myself an expert. 15 days in hospital of being trained by various nurse and midwives (my wife that is) and I was there for all of it. Without my expertise would my wife still be at it at 11 months? Yes...
a lot of Mrs Doubtfire quick changes but it's worth it.
Obviously the first few months were hard what with having to pump out the milk for each feed so basically ever feed consisted of me feeding the baby while the wife sat there with the electric pump (Philips Avent).
Now it's all just formula. I really enjoy the feeding.
I'm just joshing fellow dadsnetter, we're all Dads here, it's all good.
How comes she expressed (BAM right there) in the first few months?
Just wouldn't get it together.
So milk wasn't an issue. As the breast milk's important in the early weeks/months we went with expressed stuff for as long as the wife could take the effort and then gradually transitioned just to formula.
An unfortunate expense, obviously, both in terms of formula and running the bloody steriliser but there you go. If the baby won't latch what can you do?
Now I'm like, "Heeeeey! What the fuck was the problem?" I guess the lack of sleep and such doesn't help.
Still, I can't wake up in the night without going to check on her to make sure she's still breathing. :-/
to you all the time and make you want to give them a swift elbow to the temple? Congratulations you can now give this true but empty sounding cliche to other people in a knowing way.
I'm one up on you as I can say enjoy every moment as the first couple of years go past in a blur. Please not the face, not the face.
And yes, I am ready to now give that advice to others. :D
I have no idea what this is, but according to facebook today, my friend's baby had one and has just had hers 'snipped' (sounds awful) and she (my friend, not the baby obv) says that it's amazing, the baby latches on fine now and MILK MILK EVERYWHERE.
I really want to google 'tongue tie' but it sounds too scary.
The bit of cartilage under the tongue can sometimes be too big which stops them being able to suckle properly, for some reason it's not always routinely checked for which seems a bit silly - we were having to cup feed ours until the specialist had a look and realised it needed doing, after that she fed properly almost straight away. Having it cut didn't seem to bother her too much either.
There's blood but that bit of skin has no nerve endings. All a bit Kiss, I guess.
However, ours was only borderline and the snip made no difference. The reason it's not checked is simply that it's not 'in vogue' right now. Apparently in the old days midwives had a pair of scissors with them and would just do it straight off if they reckoned it looked like a tongue tie.
no hanging about or small talk, BAM LATCH, right in your grill.
How come 15 days?
Fine but they can't suckle until they hit 35 weeks. 35 weeks came along and whammo he could suckle. Although he did suckle within a couple of hours of being born and then forgot how to for a couple of weeks.
my latest was 2 weeks late and I only made it to the labour with 3 minutes to spare. It was brilliant, like missing the life sapping previous 120 minutes of a dull 0-0 encounter and turning over just in time to see the penalties.
Leaving him at night was a horrible but he was in good hands and the days were nice, just sitting in a comfortable feeding chair with him in a lovely and warm ward. Very relaxing which most people can't say about the first two weeks. The hell started when we got home and he fed like a demon for two months playing catch up.
The switch from breast to bottle was much easier than we feared. He's still absolutely mental for milk though. Keeps shouting MILK! MILK! at me as soon as ITNG comes on, and running to the fridge. Chill out man.
Impatient: The Next Generation
We're going to be making the transition in the next month or so... pretty scared. Since about month two he has refused a bottle. He'll drink water but as soon as it's milk he knows he can get it from somewhere better and absolutely refuses.
so cavalier, you're on fire.
I think we went human udders, formula, cow udders.
They can't take the lactose. Of course, I have no idea how old he is?
probably 13 to take his prematurity into account. He has milk in his weetabix at the moment anyway and no adverse reactions.
skip the bottle then you don't have to worry about getting them off it later
go straight to soft top cup, none of them are leakproof mind although some are better than others...
This fucking thread!
Chuck 'em in the creek and see if they can escape the yabbies?
And you can train them a lot, as in you get them to be good at holding their breath and the like.
You say the baby's name...Ready...Go!...*pour water on their face* Within a few days they've learnt to hold their breath after 'Go!'. It's pretty amazing to watch her take a big breath when you practice this in the bath.
Whether it's the pokey venue, the slightly pushy instructors or the extremely sinister sound of splish-splash, splish-splash being sung in fashion reminiscent of the Nightmare on Elm Street films but she tolerates it at best.
Outside of classes is much better
He's from perth, they have the smaller but tastier marron.
I'm a bit bored of all my favourite clothes having mil puke stains on them
how about you?
very vague attempt at suggesting that 'my favourite clothes' meant it was the baby posting, not the parent.
will try harder next time :)
And the post dinner cleanup just seems to take forever
How old is your baby now?
they just seem to vom forever. I've just accepted the fact that I smell acrid after I've been spending time with her.
Is everyone weaning at 6m? My wee bawheid (really got to stop calling her that btw) is 4.5m but struggling with milk (on formula because of feeding issues). The health visitor has suggested that my sister thinks about weaning at 5m, but she's scared about that being premature. The baby is massive. she's half the height of me now (her dad is a total BURMA, she looks like she could chow down on a full rack of ribs already and she eyeballs my dinner hungrily everytime I go home.) But still, she's technically a good 7 weeks away from the time at which you're meant to wean, baby led or otherwise. Christ, it's a constant battle between what you think your baby is trying to tell you, and what collective wisdom/ science advises. I don't know how you parents do it.
she's 4 and a half months now and they're less vom and more milky burps
just listen to what the baby is trying to tell you is what collective wisdom advises around these parts :) if you make a wrong move the baby will let you know
Perhaps better to start on some slivers of avocado and carrot.I think my sister is going to see how she is in a couple of weeks. She's defintely crying out for more than milk though. Poor wee (massive) thing.
So your is about the same age- very cute! I am loving this stage so much more than the newborn, where i was scared to touch her (i don't really do infants and they can smell my terror a mile off).
it Haggis fritters were a 'thing' in these parts then perhaps local collective wisdom might be a little different here :)
My local tesco are doing half price on fisher price toys just now, so you should check your too. They've also got heavily discounted and trikes etc for those with older kids. I got an amazing thing that spews coloured balls everywhere for £20 on saturday, reduced from 40. She will probably lose an eye, but it looks like fun.
probably gonna go to the pub tonight, might stay there a while. could be a late one. then tomorrow i'll have a big lie in before having a filter coffee and reading the papers. probably have a leisurely lunch around 1 ish.
A single man still in his 20's
but that is also totally & utterly dependent on you
it's a great feeling
i'm actually going to see my parents, which is infinitely more depressing (but on the upside i will be seeing my little neice and nephew)
and then tomorrow, I am going for neice cuddles. the best of both worlds. I want my sister to give me HUNDREDS of nieces and nephews. <3
on a pile of cushions with the mucus-generating baby sleeping fitfully on my chest.
Not sure if it's just the warmth or something about the angle, but she wouldn't sleep properly in the cot.
So far I'm not falling asleep at my desk.
try propping the cot up a bit, and olbas oil on hanky tied to cot bars
I used to love having a sleeping baby on my chest *SIGH*
I have a question. The boy was norovirused rub-a-dub style (so were my wife and I, can't beat being really ill and having to look after a really ill baby). Being sick, diarrhoea and not eating for an entire week. He's on the fight back at the moment but he's waking in the middle of the night screaming and after a bit of trial and error we discovered he wants porridge and shit loads of it. I suppose he is playing catch-up. Anyone else had this and how long did it go on for?
I want porridge too though.
I don't think they had a lot of fun, no, but I didn't hear about a large amount of eating going on straight after, sorry.
go with it, does he have something just before he goes to bed? could try and introduce that and up the amounts generally in the day - so meals as well as snacks at 10 and 3 and supper type thing.
yip entire family vomiting illnesses are amazing...so much washing...
then some milk at 6.45 and then to bed. Could just do him a bowl of porridge then.
Yes, we were doing a full load every day. I wondered why I had bought so many cot sheets. Finally paid dividends.
That's often a reason why kids wake up screaming. One of you spread his arse cheeks and the other shine a torch up his date and they'll soon come wriggling out (if they're present).
Although I'm wondering now if northern hemisphere worms behave the same as antipodean ones.
Waiting until two before teaching high fives??? Should be on to fistbumps by then.
will someone murder me please?
:D very good
I even got a review for that one
"shockingly underrated" - malick
sleepless nights ahoy :)
May as well take the time to mention that our fourth arrived 3 months ago. Not that I'm trying to steal your thunder of course. And as a matter of fact outs is very chill as well. Guess you have to be when you've got three older siblings tormenting and/or smothering you.
(apparently- i am a first born.)
Stupid me posted it in the wrong place:
Rough first night home but today's been nice. Hope she learns to one day sleep somewhere other than my arms though. Very hard to play Xbox...
Anyone been through the elective c-section approach? After several scans (and more to come) it seems like we're going to end up being booked in.
Can't wait to finally have a nice healthy baby in our arms, this pregnancy has been a real rollercoaster.
but know people who have and it was all fine. I saw one of them driving a couple of weeks after but I'm pretty sure most companies have clauses that stop you driving up to six weeks after.
Must be odd to know exactly when your baby will be coming.
is that it takes out some of the surprise/excitement element and instead replaces it with a routine medical procedure where you end up with a baby (and a missus who will take a while to recover).
you get a baby at the end of it, that is all the excitement you need.
You need to bve in control of your vehicle, and most women don't have the ability to make an emergency stop for several weeks after a section.
My sister had an elective c-section and her insurance company said she was fine to drive as soon as she felt ready- which in her case was about 3 weeks I think? They said the only way she wouldn't be covered was if a doctor specifically told her she was not fit to drive, and in that case you have to inform the DVLA anyway.
Baby was breach so my sister haf a planned section. Went into hospital on friday morning at 7am, taken to surgery just before 11, baby born about 11.30, back on the ward together for lunchtime, home on the Sunday morning. It was all very zen like and easy. Good luck!
What age do kids start having pillows?
Ours doesn't yet, but don't see why he shouldn't?
until we start counting in years. Bit weird, this baby age counting system.
for my son's 21st (month) birthday I have to get him a pillow?
She has started asking for pillows and blankets, then when you offer them declines them. She has also ditched her sleeping bag, so just sleeps in her PJs on the matrees. Is a bit Romanian orphanage but she seems to like it.
I reckon we will try her with a pillow that she will throw out in a rage shortly though.
to a duvet we provided a pillow. Seemed a bit harsh giving a duvet and no pillow.
Guess it also gets them into the idea of a proper bed set up too.
Am doing it, will get the girlfriend to buy some sort of £250 organo-pillow made of unicorn eyelashes straight away. She loves all that.
next to your bed looking at you because they have no cot to contain them is a right freak out !
The child was an okay sleeper until teething, and we didn't really take the opportunity to kick out the few bad habits she had. The teeting was about 12 months of misery (with a few decent spots in too) then last week we finally snapped and let her cry her ass out. So far has been a big success, and I hope that continues, but am not looking forward to her having the choice to go for a walk around in the night if she fancies it.
Essentially i fear for the cat.
so much it wakes up number 1 child. That's a barrel of fucking laughs right there.
NEVER accidentally put your baby in a normal nappy instead of a swimming nappy when going to a swimming lesson.
More handy tips later.
Turns out I hadn't.
they can't half retain liquid those things. Which is good, because its exactly what they are designed to do.
Tomorrow is dunking day at swimming. I can't wait to see the footage!
Was always keen, but then thought i could just do it myself, is going well, but suffice to say i am making it up.
but is you're interested in them learning techniques and stuff, it's good for that. And attending lessons gives you a routine too.
It's a wonder we're not all dead given the stupidity of it.
Also, 9 of the last 10 babies born to friends and work colleagues have been girls. Is this just a coincidence or are we moving towards a society where 1 guy will have the pleasure of impregnating 5,600 women 24/7?
Dear Dadsnetters, what it the minimum/maximum amount of time one should wait before visiting them, and what are the appropriate gifts one should take. I don't want to drop in when they're just trying to get used to life at home bearing a bottle of Johnnie Walker, but also I don't want to wait months and bring them some twee guff they'll never use.
Get them shit loads of nappies.
one of the best visitors we had came round, stayed for about 30 minutes (any longer, any you're probably staying too long) and just bought us a massive box of doughnuts and made us a cup of tea. Was wonderful.
Doesn't really matter when you visit in the first two months - it'll all be a complete blur to the new parents anyway.
We thought we wouldn't want anyone around for ages but had the family over after 3 days. Nice to give it a few days and just ask them I reckon.
Presents; if you get clothes, skip Newborn sized stuff. Our baby was too big for it from birth and that's pretty common.
Don't visit in the first week. I would say 60-90 minutes is fine, no longer but hopefully they won't be complete misery-guts like thewarn.
Came around on Christmas Day. They cooked for us and looked after the little one, giving us an hour's sleep but turned up at 10 and left 12 hours later.
12 HOURS LATER.
like, get together
Just that we'd only been out of hospital less than 48 hours. Still, we survived...
groceries. Load of frozen pizzas, pringles, biscuits, cans of pop. Real junk, but really satisfying when you are knackered/confused. And go round in the first couple of days - we really appreciated, then called a halt to it all after maybe three or four days, until maybe another week later.
But yes - groceries are the very best gift, then we really liked stuff like bath towels, and soft toys and shit.
Worst was the amount of flowers we got. I had to go out and buy vases, and was so knackered i broke them in the car on the way home.
Great use of that time.
Due 30th July-ish.
Who do I need to speak to about getting the proper membership forms for the Dadsnet crew?
when I saw 'big day' on the monring thread I was hoping so much it would be this. Congratulations! Enjoy your last 6 months of sleep for 18 years (not really- most of them sleep right through, it's just a minority of moaners who complain.)
You don't get enough sleep unless you want to go to bed at 7.30 every night.
and even when you think you have it sussed it changes again (on the back of a terrible week's sleep here - although last night was better).
Up until the week before Christmas we had a lovely sleeper. Now it would be a nightmare if only we were getting some sleep...
my youngest is nearly 5, still doesn't sleep through on his own...luckily we have a big bed
V has always slept with us, and R still often does too co-sleeping is great - you never have to get out of bed to feed them as babies and it's all cosy and lovely when they are older.
I should add Mr S isn't 'quite' so keen as me :)
Co-sleeping is especially convenient if you're breastfeeding.
(BTW, im not suggesting slicky is Bfing a 5 year old, altough hats off to her if she is. My general rule- one they have teeth, get off my milkers.)
Can be dangerous and also makes them not want to sleep in their own bed in the future etc.
Anyway, it's up to you. My sister-in-law regularly had terrible back/neck pain (plus bad sleep) from her kids getting into bed with her midway through the night while we were on holiday.
It just seems like it's a bad habit to get into. They want to be independent and sleeping in their own beds, surely?
and you'd never do it if you'd had a drink or wnate dto have sex. But now and again when they're small it can be handy for night feeds.
Agree with theo that there's a danger of it becoming a habit. I wouldn't do it personally (mainly because: booze, sex) but I wouldnt raise my eyebnows at someone who did.
so long as you follow the guidelines about not covering them with duvets and don't drink/smoke/do drugs etc
no evidence it makes them less independent, in fact the opposite
But I can understand some people are uncomfortable or don't want to, whatever is best for you and your child innit?
"My daughter needs to learn that the adage about not biting the hand that feeds also applies to tits"
I've been consoling mrs_ravens with "it won't last forever" statements.
can anyone give me any advice on going about this? any recommendations for hospitals, obstetricians, schools, nurses, nannies, godparents and, crucially, mothers, would be really appreciated, along with anything i might have missed? also should i have a boy or a girl, not sure
I've got to feed him, dress him and get him there for 8.00... Oh what have I done!
She is 2. Took her in for her first day last week, took bloody ages and I was praying that she would be OK with the pushchair instead of insisting on walking. Worked out fine, it doesn't matter if she is late I suppose. This is going to be my life for the forseeable future, worrying about Wednesdays.
Firstly my daughter has dumped her emotionally manipulative girlfriend.
Secondly my boy was on the school bus and a motorcyclist crashed into the car in front. Whilst the other kids were gawping out the window my boy asked the bus driver to open the door. He got out, put blanket over the victim, did pulse and response checks. He got someone to call ambulance and then directed the traffic until paramedics arrived.
Sad ending unfortunately, as the guy died.
Sorry, this is a bit 'aren't my kids great', but I am so so proud. He's a better man than me and he's only 15.
That's a brave thing your son did.
not far away! horrible butterflies have settled in stomach now - god knows how my wife feels.
but it's actually our 10 year anniversary since we started 'dating' (puke!) so the missus is pleased with that.
Restored some gender balance after my two daughters!
Seems fine but it includes a 'night light', i.e. a fucking bright blue LED bit on the back.
Why do companies do this kind of over-engineering? If I needed a night light then I'd have bought one, don't you think? And you can't just turn this vapouriser on as a night light only, so what Calpol have really done is decide that if I'm running their vapouriser, my child really wants a bright blue light all over their room.
stop you having it on when you might not want it?
i bought a vapouriser last month for me and Mrs Sheeldz. It's good (but a nightmare to clean).
You put it on in the day time and you can't see anything!
(Also, this is where you just stick these little refills in of lavender and chamomile. What you're describing sounds a bit more complicated?)
we had exactly the same problem and the only place we could plug it in was right by his bonce. Hi face was just bathed in blue. So (when he had a cold) I would turn it on for an hour or two before his bedtime and then switch it off. Obviously not that effective but better than nothing.
It says not to do it on the packaging.
fucking stupid. the boy was really complaining about 'bright light' so we had to stop using it.
Only ever took the first to swimming lessons at a young age, but then he got loads of colds and ear infections. Probably coincidental but nevertheless with the others we waited until they were about 1. It's all pretty straight forward anyway, tip a cup of water on their face for a while, dunk them, then teach them to monkey round the edge to the steps.
along with a copy of Goodnight Moon
Had me in stitches - thank you :)
Over the moon, and all is well.
just googled that why would you do that to me
First time I held the little one, I felt a weird feeling like I'd wet myself (I thought I may have done, given the lack of sleep or functionality for the past 48 hours). Turns out she'd dropped the M bomb and SOMEHOW it'd gone down my belt loop, through the gap between the buttons on my jeans, down my leg and all the way down to my shin.
Classy lady. Was like removing tar from a road on a hot summers' day.
it is fucking minging.
cheers for the love guys, looking forward for mum and baba to get home hopefully tomorrow.
Born to, born to be, born to be a, shrimper!
new fathers that have popped up here lately. Might need to do an audit soon to keep tabs on everything.
It's a massive cliche but time really does go very quickly when you have a baby so try and soak it up and enjoy it as much as possible.
God speed fellow dadsnetters.
Babies suck, keep your head down, get through it, and it will soon be the good times with a toddler.
That's my experience anyway.
but I suppose it's different for everyone.
to the makers of the Jumperoo. THE most amazing invention ever. take one screaming teething baby, bung it in the jumperoo, switch on the sounds, and watch it bounce about laughing its head off 10 seconds later. I wnat one that would fit me.
they look ace. That's jumped right to the top of essential items to purchase ahead of silly things like cots, breast pumps etc
We've given it to him once a day for the past three or four out of five or six days (cold teething combo). My wife is worried that its effectiveness might start to wear off with too much use or that he will become dependant on it. I've told her this is insane. Please reassure me below or just this my post. Thank you.
gone at least five days in a row when he's had bad colds/teething symptoms. Sometimes double-dosing with nurofen.
I think she's probably disturbed by the way he greedily sucks it down.
but only when he's actually ill.
Unless.... he's faking???!
OH MY GOD
it's the middle of the night, LO is screaming blue murder, nose is streaming, we think "let's calpol her", get out the bottle and dispenser and suddenly she's all excited and smiley and pointing at the stuff :/
The Aus equivalent is (Baby) Panadol.
Reminded me of the time I got up in the middle of the night to give it to my hysterical daughter, then a few months old. Bleary eyed I got ready to give her 10 ml. Could only find a 5ml syringe. Gave it to her, loaded it up again, when I suddenly thought, "You know this is a fucking big syringe." With a sinking heart I realised that she was supposed to have 1.0ml not 10.
Rang the healthcare direct people and they said you only had to worry if a person got more than 10 times the prescribed dose, but she might be a bit ill. Indeed, sickly sweet strawberry scented vomit followed for the rest of the night.
Mainlining Calpol is a hell of drug.
And then you've got to find a vien.
Nah, I just meant the little squirty dispensers you use to get it down a bub's gob. Still a syringe isn't it?
baby powder, plastic and a faint whiff of wee
all the ones I've had misfortune of going to smell of sweat, deep frying and depression
Is it Biscuit? My membership's due to commence around 3 Sept...
excellent timing too, as gets to be one of the oldest in his/her class...
into some bizarre meta-world of irony.
All the same, congratulations!
Not officially a dad till mid-April but just wanted to publicise my 85% excitement / 15% brick-shitting status!
Mine came seven weeks early so you could be a dad this afternoon.
We havent packed 'the bag' yet!
we turned up with a spare pair of knickers (hers) and a bottle of water.
So they say get them measured every 6-8 weeks. Do you do that? Do you find that you need to get a new pair every 6-8 weeks? Where do you go other than Clarks?
They got it wrong the second time, so he was wearing oversized shoes for 3 months.
Only used Clarks so far.
but the Clarks literature has some scaremongering about damaging their feet. Did you not get the photo of him and his first shoes which is just a scam to get you on their database - so they can call you back every 6-8 weeks?
you know that one day this thread is going to get bumped and you'll see it on the Social Board and it'll say 'Last reply - chris_is_cool'.
20 week scan went well. we know the sex/gender. the technician said "i can't say for sure, but I'm almost 100% certain" :D ahaha. STILL.
I notice up there ^ there is some discussion about prams. we've went for the UPPAbaby Vista. seems like a belter.
Going for the Maxi Cosi Cabriofix with the Familyfix base. A good choice? Any thoughts?
we have the Maxi Cosi Pebble with the FamilyFix base. The base is so fucking good, it's great to be able to move the car seat in a second, rather than faffing with seatbelts. It's quick to attach the base as well so you can sling it in the boot if you need the extra seat or whatever.
The Pebble is the newer version of the Cabriofix I think. Dunno if it's better - just newer.
the fabric of the seat lining rather than the kinda... flick up buttons on the Cabriofix. My wife and I found it /impossible/ to remove the Pebble, but the Cabriofix was a doddle.
no complaints. Amazing how heavy they start getting though when your kid starts piling on the pounds.
which is really good (reversable handle - sweet) and super manouverable, although limited storage which is annoying.
Now he's a bit bigger, we've also got the Britax evolva 1-2-3 carseat, which is fantastic.
So we aren't quite needing to do that yet, but the options seem to be:
1) You're a slave to certain times and HAVE to get your child down at lunch and up 2 hours later, meaning no going out for you guys EVER AGAIN.
2) Nah man, I let me kid do what I want, when they want to. We enjoy our days as we choose to and take the kid to the pub at night if we fancy doing the quiz. Yeah, downside is sometimes they can't sleep at night though and you're up from 3am until you trudge into work...
Is there a happy middle ground? Don't fancy being a slave to either truth be told...
Daytime routine - more casual but must have a sleep at some stage
I'm getting married in 6 months and, as is customary, the Mrs wants to start trying pretty soon after. Trouble is, whilst I know family life is the obvious next step, I've never been one of those paternal types, never really bonded with any kids, and I'm certainly not one of those who thinks all babies are cute and that "I really want one of those". I've never even held a child because I'm clumsy and would obviously break one if I did.
So, to the Dads of DIS, is fatherhood something you've always wanted or is it something that you've just got used to and grown to enjoy? Or do you hate it and wish it never happened (I don't expect you to own up to the latter). Just to be clear, I'm not against being a Dad and will totally throw myself into it when it happens, just it's never been something that I'm desperate to do.
but now it's brilliant and pretty much all I care about. Go 4 it.
In late July, we jumped right in thinking it wouldn't be too quick. But it was pretty bang on first time up to bat. I was ready already though, kinda, but so far all the stuff we have been getting sorted has been making me half Shit it and half excited. So I didn't fully know but Fuck it, if anything is worth a punt is probably this.
I kinda knew I wanted to do it and have had years of people telling me 'I'd be a good Dad' so have always had it in the back of my mind; guess I was reluctant to give up my own freedom, nights out and selfish way of life really though. Plus I have a love / hate fear of change. But I also knew that my best memories with my Dad are doing physical, outdoors things and you need to be under 70 to do that. He was 34 when I was 13 and I'm 34 already, so I just thought lets get on with it.
Previously other people's kids bored me on the whole - their days looked dull, their Facebook feeds looked tedious and I felt awkward around them. And then the moment you have one of your own, it's totally wicked.
I've been so much happier since and get genuinely gutted if I don't get to see her for a bit. I go to work determined to finish asap to get home again and it's a constant source of entertainment.
Sure, it's hard work and I reckon the wife and I will have to work really hard on our relationship to make time for each other BUT it's pretty fucking wicked.
What Balonz said or the word 'wicked'
I think I've just been conditioned by all my friends, who have supposedly always wanted kids and who fawn all over any newborns. When my mates had kids the best I've ever been able to do is say stuff like "well done" and then feel a bit awkward when around them doing their Dad stuff. Just like you did, i mostly find the new parents on Facebook extremely tedious with the endless photos and updates and have slight fears that I'll become tedious to other people when it happens (I don't want to put pics of my kids on the internet though so that won't be a problem on Facebook etc). These are all comforting words.
drag me kicking and screaming into it.. But as above, we've now got two and they are amazing. Purely because they are ours though, I can't be doing with other peoples kids. I would caveat this with the fact we are constantly knackered, have no money, both work full time (wife works 4 days a week) so its hard during the week to make time to do anything other than eat / sleep. All this is temporary though and hopefully in a few years will be worth the struggle early on !
which is pretty handy. like others above, it happened first time (super-sperm) and so be prepared for that! I wasn't as into it as the missus but they're obviously biologically tuned into it and have had a lifetime to think about motherhood.
Also - being a parent is the best thing ever, but it doesn't have to change everything. You're going to be shattered and pretty skint and you're going to spend every waking hour thinking of baba but you're still going to be able to get out for a couple of beers, have date-night etc etc. Agree those kinds of things early on with the missus - make sure she knows what's important for you and that you will need some time to decompress a little if you're working and can't spend 24/7 in a work/baby cycle.
The days and weeks go so so fast, we're 5 weeks in already but we've managed to get out for an evening on our own and i've managed a couple of nights out which is really handy.
also it goes without saying - make sure you're finances/work/relationship are all rock solid - pregnancy and subsequent parenthood are a great way of testing those things. everything is expensive and emotions are flying.
tl:dr - go for it!
You must be superhuman sir. Or bottle feeding I guess!
I, too, was never that great with kids and I really feel love it big time. I *would* say it hasn't made me any better (so far ) with slightly older children. I still feel sort of out of my depth and no good at talking with them or relating to them if I am left in charge.
Second: Hopefully you will find it quick and easy to get pregnant. But it isn't always easy, especially if you happen to have friends who are getting pregnant ahead of you. Everything around trying to get pregnant seemed to magnify massively for us. You watch a film or a TV show and it should just be lighthearted but you'd be surprised how often the themes are there. Trying watching Up when it's not working out... Also I think we turned on Rev and it was in the middle of the series where they're trying for a baby.
And at work, well know one really talks about this. People don't tend to announce at work, "Oh yeah, we're trying for a baby". It's not so bad as a bloke but my wife got so many people asking when we were going to have kids. It's really fucking stressful because you don't want to really talk about it, and they're not even thinking it's a big thing to say and probably aren't even saying it with any strong seriousness. Anyway, it will probably be fine. For most people who try it is. But it's worth having at least one mate you can chat to about this if things do take a while and the stress sets in.
They're only about 60 quid off, I think:
It will be good, I'm sure. I've got the last book and that is good.
Jacques: He's a West Ham supporter, if that helps?
that's quite a good idea. I bet kids would like that.
That seems a bit tricky.
Daughter seems to only ever fall asleep on Mum after a lengthy feed / burp or out and about in a pram. Getting her to snooze of her own will or without us around 24/7 just isn't happening. Any tips, or is this pretty normal for 4 months? Have read in some places this is all par for the course, elsewhere that we should be getting our nights back by now.
Trying to recall, really. Ours was pretty much like that, I think. Even now, despite her big night sleep being in the cot, any other rest tends to only happen when you take her for a walk in the pram.
Do you try rhythmic tapping? We have Ewan the Sheep but other white noise generators (Squeezebox does a continuous heavy rain sound) work. We generally put Ewan on, laid her in the cot and tapped her back steadily, sort of heartbeat speed. This really helped her to drift off. Even now at almost 13 months it's pretty good.
One thing I do reckon is warmer is slightly better for sleeping. You don't want to overheat them but she slept better on the warm side - when the Gro-Egg was in the orange 20-24 range.
In my opinion that's too young to be thinking in terms of self soothing but as far as I'm concerned self-soothing is just another way of saying that a child has learnt it won't get comfort however long it cries, plus at that age a baby thinks that if it can't see / feel something then it's stopped existing, which when applied to their parents can be quite upsetting for them.
We had terrible trouble getting our daughter to sleep on her own around that age - the idea that we'd try to put her down when sleepy but not asleep was a bit of joke really, so we just carried her around in the sling constantly for about a month. We basically gave up trying to transfer her into her bed. That did mean one of us had to be awake at any one time, but I did get a lot of hours of playstation in whilst walking around the living room with a baby strapped to my chest :)
Tucking her in really tightly to her moses basket helped though. Because of this we were really nervous about moving her into a bigger cot bed when she outgrew that, but the transfer actually seemed ok. Once she'd got used to the flinging her arms out and rolling around.
From about 6 months she slept pretty well. Until 11 months. When she started just waking up several times in the night. We started night weaning her at about 13 months and she's mostly been sleeping through for the last four weeks.
burn anything that says you should expect your nights back. ever. ;)
my son didn't have anything to eat/drink at night from three months on and started sleeping through. And then you think you have it cracked and then whammo, he's not sleeping through anymore. And then he is and then he isn't etc etc
You see those people with kids that fall asleep anywhere. Mine is cot, car seat or very occasionally pushchair and nowhere else whatsoever.
Give it another couple of months and you'll probably start to gradually see a shift. I think I was carrying him around in the sling a fair bit, which he'd sleep in, to give his mum a bit of a break.
My son used to have the fantastic habit of falling asleep in his pram, then waking up the second we got into the house. Every single time.
My son has gone mad for throwing stuff down the shitter. Started off with toilet paper and then graduated to his toys. My wife intercepted him trotting off there with my phone in his mitts yesterday.
It's windowless so we want to leave the door open, can't stairgate it because then you can't close the door.
Anyone tried one of these:
or got any tips?
Worked a treat until recently. However, he's just realised he can lift it up slightly, and push puzzle pieces, cars etc in through the gap and into the bowl.
What are your recommendations for where a newborn should sleep?
We’ve pretty much settled on a cotbed which in theory is futureproof for a good few years, but a) it seems massive for a newborn, and b) we’re not sure how much space we’ll have for it in our room (at least not until after we’ve moved in the next month or two anyway). So, Moses basket? Bassinet? Other mysterious items with strangely antiquated-sounding names?
I will be forever grateful for your worldly experience…
Moses basket and stand are really portable so they can sleep in whatever room you are in and you can take it wherever you visit as well. Plus they are pretty cheap.
We were also given a cradle but that was a bit shit - given it a bit late really.
What do you reckon, Moses basket?
but our new dis football celebration is sorted.
We started with a moses basket and worked ok for a month or so, then we suddenly found the noise it made when she moved around in it woke her up - so that went. Then we used the pram basket thingy that came with the Uppababy travel system as it doubles up as a bed, but she quickly started to fill it out and we didn't think it seemed like a good long term solution.
Now we have a cotbed that's not fullsize like the one in her yet-to-be-occupied-room and that works well. They grow so quickly that she'll soon fill it. Could use some rolled up muslins to stop them rolling around if it bothers you.
Other people we know have kids in the bed with them or those things that bolt on to the side of the bed, so mum can breastfeed in the night and not have to get up. A few parents we know swear by them but they're not cheap.
Definitely can't see us keeping baba in the moses basket for 6 months, he's already pretty big in it after 3!
We might go down the cotbed route, or one of us (mum) take turns to sleep in his nursery for a few months,
Also, as Vamos says - the moses baskets are great because you can carry them around, stick them in the car etc. definitely worth even just a basic one which you use in the lounge for the first couple of months, i think ours was only £40.
Wee Remy will be 3 weeks old tomorrow and he sleeps in the moses basket beside our bed at night and we move it (and the stand) through to the living room during the day and have popped the basket bit on the kitchen table at breakfast or cooking in the evening. very versitile.
I guess “see what works” is the answer, but that also sounds potentially very expensive! Definitely sounds like it will be worth us investing in a Moses basket pre-cot anyway, so that's good to know.
mad deep £££. also picked up a bath, a changing mat, a play mat (that i've already tried out lying on my back, which was excellent fun) and a shit tonne of nappies.
the next major thing that we are looking at is bed/cot which is good that the above discussion took place.
anyone else done hypnobirthing? we have been to our four classes and i highly recomend it.
is fantastic. Best £100 I've spent!
Good to hear it's helpful - missus is due in July and we both need to chill out a bit...
e’re also going for the UppaBaby Vista. A few people in this thread should probably be getting commission…
It is for the birthing process. It can ONLY be before the birth.
you ain't the one poppin the sprog, like.
it has helped our view of the birth, made me feel a part of the process, and was a very enjoyable and positive experience. it is all about control, relaxation and empowerment, and that all has helped us both feel far more positively towards the birth.
as you don't know if it will or not.
I thought you meant it wasn't recommended to be used before the birth, not that I couldn't recommend it. Oops.
I recommended it based on what we've already learned, how positive it has made us, and as a cohesive family unit experience. even if it doesn't "work" during birth, it still has been a very positive experience.
I'm alright at it (apart from in the car) but my wife is fucking gash.
Also, my wife killed an ant in front of him, then claimed it was 'sleeping'. Cold.
Also, my son keeps saying 'Oh goodness, God'. I don't like this, but I'm not sure why.
I slaughtered a spider in front of him the other day (it was a big one and I killed it out of fright). I think he thought I was playing with it.
I must remember not to kill any prostitutes in front of him.
pretend nothing has happened.
fuck there's a camera there
Anyone got any bike child seat recommendations? Looking for one suitable for a 2-3 year old.
Might try and get one second-hand though: brand new they seem pretty expensive (surprise surprise).
Are you going with a theme? Our Totoro nursery is well good.
I think I probably like it more than my son though.
In fact, I might suggest we change rooms when he gets a bit older.
yeah we might later on - not sure what yet mind you.
you like the nursery more than you like your son. but you didn't mean that, it's ok. (hmmm).
Baby massage, baby yoga, baby pram bootcamp. Wish there was some more weekendy/dad stuff.
I've finally found a baby swim class on a sunday which was really good fun.
Going to Wilderness in August and starting to get nervous about all sorts of things:
No cot - sleeping / putting down is going to be a bit tricky
The heat / cold in the tent - how do you dress em for that?
Food - festival food is expensive and probably well salty
- Get a travel cot. If yours is anything like either of mine, you'll need it.
- 2 pairs of PJs and a baby sleeping bag always did us fine. They'll be awake as soon as it's light anyway so the heat isn't really a problem.
- Wet wipes!
- You'll be able to take food for little one anywhere, bouncers won't stop you taking food for a small child into the arena. Get plenty of those salt-and-flavour-free crisps for kids, kiddie biscuits, and fruit. Aside from that they probably will be on unhealthy stuff for most of the weekend, but fuck it, it's just a few days. When we go to festivals, my eldest (now 4) basically just eats sausages and bread for every meal. Not ideal, but she eats healthily the rest of the time so I'm not bothered.
thanks for the tips - I'm happy enough with her diet the rest of the time, so I guess a few days will be fine.
It's making me pretty neurotic - which is a new festival experience...
it might be fine, but the mattresses are really thin. we're going away with the little'un for a week and have forked out £20 for a better mattress for our travel cot.
13.40pm this afternoon, emergency c-section. knackered, drained, red wine.
Everyone well? Chosen a name?
staff at the southern general deserve a bottle of whisky. instead, i am drinking it.
Joni, which is why i posted this: http://drownedinsound.com/community/boards/social/4452201#r8232619
I assume you're home alone? I've been thinking that's going to be a pretty weird moment...
The night(s) back home alone whilst your partner and child are at hospital is proper surreal, isn't it?
Any decent book recommendations out there? Have all the Donaldson ones but they've been a bit rinsed, fancy some new bedtime reading.
They've got a great rhythm in the rhymes.
There's a good one I got recently called The Worst Princess and there are obviously all the Mog books (which I think are variable but as a kid I know I just loved them all).
ok but a bit short. The Worst Princess one sounds interesting.
Maybe time for a new Dadsnet thread as this one is getting a bit long.
but we're big into sticker books at the moment. This is a good one: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pirate-Sticker-Book-Usborne-Books/dp/1409522938/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1409831643&sr=8-1&keywords=pirate+sticker+book
Mayhem them, no idea where to put them whatsoever.
she likes me singing Boards of Canada acapella more.
first three weeks; mental.
Are you just sort of humming? :D
the .... love underpants books are always well received
Kipper & Wibbly Pig were favourites in our house too
But I get the nice bits really. The harder part is trying to keep the missus' spirits up really as it can be pretty monotonous and relentless.
But in general I would say Babette Newman Trouble with books, Mr men, harry and the dinosaurs, Shirley Hughes Alfie etc books they are my favourites really lovely illustration, peace at last is good as you can do a mega BRRRRRrrrrrrrrt for the alarm.
the Pirate Cruncher
the Pirates Next Door
the King of Space
as well as mr men, octonauts and harry and the dinos
but as well as donaldson books always fond of
- the Karma Wilson books - Bear snores on, Bear feels scared etc.
- the dinosaur that pooped a planet, pooped christmas etc.
Nick Sharrat books - I went to the Zoopermarket, don't put your finger in the Jelly Nelly etc
Shouldn't Theo have sent them out by now?
8 days in and we're loving every minute. Might have to get rid of our TV as we're just spending hours watching her pull funny faces instead. Definitely not looking forward to going back to work on Monday :(
In doses it's a very helpful 3rd parent.
You need C Beebies. She's too young for it mnow (hmmm, probably although they still like colours and moving things)but very soon you'll realise it's better than a nanny.
Hope you're all well.
Don't get rid of the TV until the Liverpool match on Saturday and then chuck it out of the window after you see Cole in the starting line-up.
All healthy and well thanks.
Penelope Wren. We're calling her Lo for short.
Need some Dadsnet advice.
Little one is having lots of trouble sleeping. I know that's normal for kids but she's over 9 months now and after a consistent routine every night, wakes up loads. Often half hour after drifting off, then 2 hours or so later and even 2 or 3 more times in the night until awake at 6:30. She screams after 6 if I go anywhere near here and basically my wife is having to do everything as only she seems to soothes her, usually on the boob (another problem here is that now she has more bottles, her milk supply isn't high enough to last a bad night).
Putting her down drowsy continues to elude us. She's either sitting up and screaming (now shes more mobile) or unconscious. And I seem unable to rock her to sleep or settle her.
Unhelpfully everyone else we know (seemingly) has a dream kipper and the mum in law recently popped round and to give the wife a break, had a go and managed to settle her in minutes. Its nothing like as bad a night as those early days but the wife is pretty down and feeling inadequate / at a loss.
Attempts at co sleeping and crying it out haven't really worked either, though we did both a little halfheartedly.
Any similar issues or ideas? Just keep being told 'regular routine, bottle, story, put down drowsy' by books, friends and health visitors and we do the first 3 but 4 just plain isn't happening.
Our little one is 7 months and has always been reasonably good and this week after a rough couple of nights he seems to be happy about dropping 1 boob feed and so goes to bed at 7pm, wakes at 1am ish for a feed. and then up at 7am (sometimes earlier or later). I hope it doesn't come across as bragging but some of the advice we got from our HV really helped get him into this routine.
They said to give them lots of calories just before bedtime so they're fuller for longer. Maybe your little one is peckish and milk isn't cutting it? Our lad is a big eater and has 4 square meals (a supper at about 6.30pm before bath, bed and a little milk feed). Maybe try filling up with food before bed? It's normally just shreaded wheat or porridge or something
If he wakes up when he's not supposed to be having milk then I go to sort him because he smells milk on the missus and goes crazy. I know you're trying this, and it's fucking hard if you're working - but seems a sensible strategy because breaking nighttime milk feeds has to happen at some point, and our HV said that if they're getting the calories in the day when they're 7 months ish then it's not hunger but just nursing/soothing in the night that they want/need.
Other things we use:
- white noise
- cuddling and shhhing
ours stopped having any milk at night from three months. Apart from in the recovery of Norovirus period when he would nail three bowls of porridge in the middle of the night, he doesn't consume anything from dinner to breakfast.
yeah they definitely are, and when you're getting conflicting or annoying advice left, right and centre and every HV is telling you something different it can be a bit of a nightmare.
I think you're advice about sticking to a routine is really important - (Not that Vamos hasn't been doing this) but being confusing or unpredictable isn't going to help things.
they are all so different, but the one thing they have in common is that they settle down EVENTUALLY. At 9 months she'll be coping with some of the bigger teeth trying to poke through, and weaning, and all sorts of things that can play havoc on their desire or ability to sleep. have you tried xcutting out the afternoon snooze to make her sleepier at night?
This will pass, it relaly will. I feel for you both though, especially mrsV, as she being te one with the boobs is gong to take a battering. If you're seriously worried, do speak to your GP or HV.
More just a bit irritating now. Feels like we ought to be able to break this cycle but everything we're doing just doesn't seem to work. She's an angel all day then turns into a little monster at 6.
Good advice on extra big tea times though, will pass that on!
- Skin to skin contact was still pretty useful even at that age.
- tapping her rhythmically on the back, kind of heartbeat steadiness
- the noise of heavy rain, i.e. white noise. My Squeezebox thing has an endless loop and you could get it quite loud until she stopped crying and then drop it down a bit and leave it with her. There's an iPad app called Baby Noise or something that will do continual white noise (and it's free) and we use that a lot of we're travelling with her.
Have you checked for weird breezes or something in the room. The books all go on about NOT TOO WARM but I'll tell you, our girl likes warmth to sleep. Over the summer we kept getting woken up around 4am until I decided to put warmer blankets on her and it made a big difference. If you've got the cot in a place where a cool breeze keeps coming then maybe this isn't helping?
But we have had similar. Although not consistently. We always thought we had it cracked and then it would start again. Month on, month off.
All I can say is that after a while (and unfortunately I think it was quite a while after 9 months) they do start sleeping through nearly every night, or at least ours did. The problem we have now is getting him to sleep. He likes to stay up.
I'd say just keep plugging on with a routine and try to deviate as little as possible.
The one thing to console yourself with is that people who have kids that sleep really well are the worst people on earth, bar none.
Very very rarely sleeps through and never had since birth I wholeheartedly agree with the last line
Repeat to yourself this too will pass :) po's advice is right 9 months is massive development leap, loads going on for them!
Or is it nightmares and he is all upset? Must be pretty draining :(
Other times he cones and gets in with me and goes back to sleep. If after 6 he will get up and go watch TV or play on the computer by himself
Think I am so used to it now it is really odd when he does sleep and so I wake up wondering what's wrong with him!
That really sucks that she's feeling down. I dunno what to suggest, but maybe organise something nice for her (go out to the cinema, or a massage or haircut or something) and see if grandma is able to stay over and do some night time settling so that you both can get some sleep.
Things might improve if everyone is a bit more refreshed and less down about things because baby might sense those things as well? I dunno.
Appreciate the advice (and will treat her indeed, good point...)
but impending uncledom next year. any tips from the aunties and uncles of dis? What do you actually do? Parents - how can i be of least annoyance?
Tips, tricks, mildly amamusing anecdotes, etc, etc.
We've got into a nice routine where she's serene and happy in the bath, so long as I'm in too. (I say happy, the exact expression is "I don't really know what's going on here, but I'm going to tolerate it because these idiots seem to be enjoying themselves.") However, taking her out of the bath is always accompanied by 10 mins of angry screams even as we do our best to keep her warm, which I assume is the biggest shock.
Only real issues these days are the occasional bath shit and his hatred of the shower for washing shampoo off.
When yours gets a bit older, I'd recommend foam bath letters/numbers that you can stick to the side: they've proved a massive hit. We've also got iggle piggles boat, which Daisy always falls out of, then it sinks. AVOID.
She was fine at first but now it's NO SITTING and a nightmare.
For what it's worth, u_a, she has always been very upset when we take her out of the bath. We did get a period of calm when we sang Zoom, zoom, zoom... but she would quickly start crying as we dried her. I think she just doesn't like the towels.
She's fine once she's dressed for bed, though.
I suspected it was pretty common, so good to know. Foam letters and numbers sound like an exciting prospect though, thanks thewarn.
bath time is the thing that i try to get home from work in time to do.
UA - I assume you're doing bath time before bed. It could just be tiredness and cold/wet kicking in. We try to get the room ready before bathtime (towels and clothes out, curtains drawn, bedside light on) and then rush him back from the bathroom to his room. He does kick off but normally can bring it under control by quietly singing and getting him dry as quick as possible.
We use a few towels (including lying him on one on his changing mat).
Also - do you apply any moisturiser? We do because he gets patches of dry skin. The missus uses baby massage techniques for this which seem to really calm him down. (I do the bath, she does the dressing and bedtime milk). They aren't particularly complex, just rub it on in a nice slow soothing way!
we switched to using cussons emolient bath wash and it cleared up pretty quickly.
and you can get a big tub for a couple of quid. Stick them to your forehead and then violently shake them off for added laughs.
it is by far the easiest way we found to teach them the alphabet.
proper loves it and everything about - even spraying the shower head directly in her face or putting her head under water
so that's lucky
the taking her out part was always tricky until it started getting colder and they turned the heat up in the flat which lead to ... warm towels!
Warm, soft towels are your friend
Also what helps is turning the out-of-the-bath moment from being the 'end' of an activity into being part of a series of activities ie. we always give her her toothbrush to chew on as we lift her out of the bath so it's bath->teeth->nappy->pyjamas->bottle->storytime->bed
I've found that as long as she knows what's happening next she's always pretty chill about whatever it is, it's only in the 'what's going on now?' moments that she gets antsy - which makes a lot of sense I guess
Warm towels sound like a great idea. Might suggest that now the heating is going on.
She's still tiny though, so I think it's just the transition from warm water to (relatively) cold air that's a minor trauma. She's definitely entering a new phase of boredom being a noticeable thing though, so a distraction of some kind might well help. Ta.
for you and baby to get out of the bath together with some help from mum, and keep them skin to skin while you wrap a towel and dressing gown?
Logistically it might be a challenge, wet babies and slippery baths!
but body_in_the_thames's posts in here make it sound great
it is great, really the best thing
though I have to say that Sweden makes it a lot easier than the UK does to spend time with them and share the parental work & reward
anyone bought one for a two year old? Any recommendations?
He's a badass on a toddlebike http://www.toddlebike.co.uk/ so reckon he is ready for the step up in a couple of months.
well worth the money
they sell http://www.micro-scooters.co.uk/scooters-model-3-in-1-seat-ages-1-3.html aimed at under 2's, but you are essentially paying £30 for a seat so you can pull them along - you can pull them very easily on micros when they get fed up
they are very easy to scoot on (go waay better than cheap ones) and you can adjust the handle to be low - has a friend got one you can try out...he will grow into it anyway!
I reckon he can handle one and who listens to that +36 months nonsense anyway!
it is called "my first scooter" or something. Really cheap, shit quality, heavy, pink, loud hard wheels. She was reaaaaly slow on it to start with, at a standstill unless it was really smooth tarmac, and falling off constantly. But then wanting to get back on despite crying and in pain. Made walks quite trying actually. A few months on however and she is flying away on it.
well, that was fun. not fever or anything, and slept like... well, a baby, but she screamed for a good while afterwards. pretty traumatic.
ISOFIX/Rear Facing blah blah blah.
Talk to me...
We've currently got the Pebble and FamilyFix, and the Pearl is the next seat up for when they're 1-ish, but it doesn't do rear-facing with the FamilyFix, you need a new Pearl and new 2 way base which have only just come out.
Apparently keeping them rear-facing until they're at least 15 months is recommended due to weak neck muscles. Therefore my missus has declared we need a rear facing seat
Fuck buying a new base and new Pearl which'll cost over £300 in total.
Think we're going to get the Hauck Varioguard which goes backwards and then forwards once they're big enough. Comes with a base and is £180 in total.
It's annoying how quick they 'out date' car seats - we thought our FamilyFix base was going to be pretty future-proof. It's done us really well, along with the Pebble. We'll hang on to both if in case we have another baba.
no base. They go in pretty solidly though. But only forward facing. Although safer it seems a bit mean to make them face backwards.
but he's happy with it for the moment, and if we can get to 15/18 months then that'd be fine I reckon.
Annoying to splash out hunnerds on yet more stuff just to keep them backwards a little bit longer when we were planning to get get the Pearl and be sorted for years, but we drive along quite a lot of sketchy roads through the Pennines and stuff, so accidents are always at the back of my mind.
Just feed her on takeoff/landing and be prepared to do a lot of walking up and down the aisle.
so how does bfing work when taking off? can you?
a professor at work was going to a conference in Australia, so decided to take his wife and two young kids and extend it into a family holiday. He already had his flights booked and so bought tickets for his family.
When they got to the gate he got bumped up to business, and left his wife with two screaming kids in economy, all the way to Sydney.
They are divorced now.
Was fine. She was interested, people coo'd a bit then she fell asleep on me because of the warm hum of the plane. Similar story on the way back but a little more reluctant to sleep.
She has actually flown around ten times (5 return flights), is 2.5 and has always been great, except for the very last time;
On the way out, I decalred her to be the greatest child of all time. She cheered when we took off, she cheered during the turbulence, she loved having her own seat for the first time, she ate cream cheese and crackers like the happist human.
Fast forward a fortnight and she is in a great mood, on the bus about to get on the plane and just suddenly announces "don't want to wear seatbelt". She meant it too. Got on the plane, wouldn't wear it, had a fight. Once up she was just a monumental pain all flight, getting bored and wanting to run up and down etc. For landing, i had to hold her, horizontally, in a full force grip whilst she totally lost her shit and thrashed around.
No one would look us in the eye when we got off. Was horrible.
Last holiday we got the ferry.