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I'm having an identity crisis

moker [Edit] [Delete] 60 replies 12:08, 11 June '13

Not really sure who I am, what I want, even how I should dress. Don't even know if I like or hate my job. If I'm pushing myself into further office misery, or I'm pushing myself out of my working class beginnings. Like, who am I maaaan?

Is this is breakdown?

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  • You're moker

    It says so just below the thread title.

    the_ravens | 11 Jun '13, 12:10 | X
    ma0sm, twentynine, moker, and chickenbones this'd this
    • Someone else can answer the rest

      the_ravens @the_ravens | 11 Jun '13, 12:10 | X
      ohgood this'd this
  • could be the satrt of one

    breakdowns are ace - you'll come out of teh other end feeling better about EVERYTHING!

    have fun

    also - maybe go on holiday?

    chris-budget | 11 Jun '13, 12:11 | X
  • might just be one of those things where you are trying to create drama

    because people watch films and read books they expect drama ALL THE TIME. and when it's not there, they create it. might be that. people should stop doing that

    cat_race | 11 Jun '13, 12:13 | X
    CHECK_THIS_GUY_OUT this'd this
    • not a thing

      chris-budget @cat_race | 11 Jun '13, 12:14 | X
      Antelope this'd this
      • incorrect

        cat_race @chris-budget | 11 Jun '13, 12:15 | X
        • is so correct

          chris-budget @cat_race | 11 Jun '13, 12:18 | X
    • when its not there, they read the Daily Mail

      BROKEN BRITAIN. YOU LIVE IN A MOVIE WHERE SHIT IS GOING DOWN ALL THE TIME.

      the_dazzled @cat_race | 11 Jun '13, 12:18 | X
      • wah?

        cat_race @the_dazzled | 11 Jun '13, 12:33 | X
    • CHECK_THIS_GUY_OUT

      <3

      monoshono @cat_race | 11 Jun '13, 12:40 | X
      moker this'd this
      • not this

        it's true. people are always looking for some reason to be under pressure or to remove themselves or make things difficult when it doesn't need to be. it's bullshit

        cat_race @monoshono | 11 Jun '13, 12:53 | X
        • nope

          chris-budget @cat_race | 11 Jun '13, 12:54 | X
          • based on anecdotal evidence probably

            but it seems all that goes on is people making mountains out of molehills. dunno what's wrong with everyone

            cat_race @chris-budget | 11 Jun '13, 12:55 | X
            • are you sure

              that there's just not much going on right now and your natural need for drama has led you to imagine this situation?

              inside-outside @cat_race | 11 Jun '13, 13:31 | X
              • but if that were true

                i would be right in the first place

                cat_race @inside-outside | 11 Jun '13, 13:37 | X
    • Nah, this is a thing

      We all need drama. I think cat_race is right in his observation but wrong in applying it here.

      If anything it's the non drama that;'s the issue.

      Just the haunting feeling of ennui in this empty modern world. Nothing to complain about, nothing to pin a purpose to. Just a floating existential sea that provides no sense of identity.

      moker @cat_race | 11 Jun '13, 12:41 | X
      • its called enuii

        creakyknees @moker | 11 Jun '13, 13:48 | X
        • Oh - it's called who gives a cunt

          Sorry, creaky, not aimed at you. AIMED AT THE WORLD

          moker @creakyknees | 11 Jun '13, 13:57 | X
  • Is this is breakdown?

    Who can say?

    andyvine | 11 Jun '13, 12:16 | X
    • I guess he's better off this way.

      Antelope @andyvine | 11 Jun '13, 12:21 | X
  • time to go home and work down the mine with your papa and brothers

    and gain some perspective

    definitionofself | 11 Jun '13, 12:19 | X
  • Maybe you're questioning your gender identity

    DarwinDude | 11 Jun '13, 12:20 | X
    alcxxk this'd this
  • I'm not that bothered about the 'who am I' thing

    I think if you start getting into that it doesn't get you anywhere.

    I am having the same issue with the 'what I want' and the don't even know if I like or hate my job. If I'm pushing myself into further office misery, or I'm pushing myself out of my working class beginnings'
    Im also tired, very tired.

    Elaina_Casoolare | 11 Jun '13, 12:23 | X
    • ^this to the first two sentences.

      And also a bit to the last para.

      PickledOeuf @Elaina_Casoolare | 11 Jun '13, 13:39 | X
  • there's nothing wrong with being working class

    it's far better than being a stupid bourgeois hipster twat
    i suggest spending some time doing things you know that you like
    after that maybe go shopping and get a few things that appeal to you
    (also maybe read some zen books, they are very helpful)

    MadameChaos | 11 Jun '13, 12:24 | X
    • i'm not sure there is a better of worse class is there?

      seems a funny thing to belive

      chris-budget @MadameChaos | 11 Jun '13, 12:33 | X
      • it's definitely a thing

        MadameChaos @chris-budget | 11 Jun '13, 12:44 | X
        • that working class people are better than middle class people?

          bit classist

          chris-budget @MadameChaos | 11 Jun '13, 12:46 | X
    • Read some zen books but don't be a bourgeios hipster twat

      Gotcha

      andyvine @MadameChaos | 11 Jun '13, 12:41 | X
      alcxxk and heartworms this'd this
      • laughsnort

        joeymahone @andyvine | 11 Jun '13, 13:06 | X
  • the pressure to conform to an established identity

    is the problem here

    sure, it's healthy to establish a few principles, but in allowing oneself to be fluid, one escapes the tyranny of the label

    Loui_Tacceh | 11 Jun '13, 12:29 | X
  • Affluenza. It's a pain, man.

    I'm planning a big new start soon, bit of a reset. Terrifying but exciting.

    hip_young_gunslinger | 11 Jun '13, 12:33 | X
  • Interesting you mention class (and your trouble with comign to terms with middle/working)

    Office work is literally the worst. Seems so cushy as youre not up at 5am working whether its windy, raining, or snowing laying slabs or whatever. Ill tell you something though, its pretty much the most soul crushing existence. Might just be where Ive worked but Ive never met anyone Ive respected in these jobs, Ive liked some, yeah, but never respected. No ones happy, and everyone despises their lot in life. Whereas at home everyone works on the roads, or cuts down trees or lays bricks. Theyre all happy, all content, and suprisingly sharper than 99% of middle class people Ive met. Even my manager who begged me to stay (BEST STATS IN THE WHOLE DEPARTMENT YEAH) said Im not really cut out for working in an office. Youre shoved into these roles as you show a tiny spark of intelligence, but because of where youre from will never rise anywhere important, and so will always inhabit the shittiest parts of the office working chain. Wank. If I have to work in an office for any length of time again, Im genuinely going to kill myself.

    Songs_about_ducking | 11 Jun '13, 12:37 | X
    • for about the first time ever I wholeheartedly agree with you

      office work is the Great Satan of semi-affluent British society and it represents a surprisingly inefficient amassment of our collective manhours in the indentured servitude of the indefinite financial gains of the few

      and I'm fucking glad I don't do it

      Loui_Tacceh @Songs_about_ducking | 11 Jun '13, 12:43 | X
      • Both offices Ive worked in have had very decent people inhabiting the management structure

        but its entire purpose is seemingly to grind you into paste that does a job 'satisfactorily' and then pull you up on not achieving what you can despite the entire role creating barriers to do more. Some people thrive in this environment but for the majority its like being kicked in the balls every day just for trying to earn some money

        Songs_about_ducking @Loui_Tacceh | 11 Jun '13, 13:01 | X
        • what role is it?

          inside-outside @Songs_about_ducking | 11 Jun '13, 13:55 | X
    • Thatcher's Britain

      untrue @Songs_about_ducking | 11 Jun '13, 13:48 | X
    • THIS - A great post

      but what can you do to escape? I think I need a purpose. A calling. Something to go THIS IS ME. Maybe I can already do this, I dunno.

      I fucking hate I'm-a-victim whines, but I'm not saying I'm the victim, I'm saying I'm the cause I guess. I dunno. Do I want to be a well dressed, well earning guy, or some tracksuit wearing beer drinking working calss hero? Is there an inbetween. Argh, listen to my middle class moans.

      YOU CAN'T EVEN MOAN ANYMORE

      moker @Songs_about_ducking | 11 Jun '13, 12:44 | X
      • Join the Taliban

        monoshono @moker | 11 Jun '13, 12:46 | X
        chris-budget and PickledOeuf this'd this
        • Well, it's a purpose

          moker @monoshono | 11 Jun '13, 12:53 | X
        • bin-bin-laden's talibanarmy

          inside-outside @monoshono | 11 Jun '13, 13:33 | X
      • did you see grayson perry's programme on class tastes he did for channel 4?

        it was good, i think you'd get a lot out of it re your identity crisis. its on 4od.

        chris-budget @moker | 11 Jun '13, 12:49 | X
        • I did

          only saw the working class one but was great.

          It's a bit like that bit on Fight Club though (sorry to be all 6th form about this) where he's going on about how he looks through dinner sets to work out which one defines him best.

          I was bored yesterday so went shopping. Then thought FUCKING HELL, is this it? Is this the point of working? To consume?

          moker @chris-budget | 11 Jun '13, 12:55 | X
          • the middle class one has some good stuff about identity / autheticity angst

            might give you a nice 'I'M NOT ALONE' feeling

            i think you need to have a proper think about what things are important to you, i'm sure there is a lifestyle that suits, it's just working out what that is.
            You do seem relatively angst ridden about this kind of thing (you are always banging on about it periodically), work out what you need and want and then just reposition your life to get those things.

            esay!

            chris-budget @moker | 11 Jun '13, 13:01 | X
            • This game is so esey!

              moker @chris-budget | 11 Jun '13, 13:05 | X
      • just be less like this post and it'll be an improvement

        heyo

        codpieceface @moker | 11 Jun '13, 12:50 | X
      • Teach?

        MrScagdenSir @moker | 11 Jun '13, 13:00 | X
    • as much as i'd like to be all DIGNITY OF LABOUR and that

      people who work pon site seem just as unhappy and free of agency as people who work in offices. working class people are just less likely to wallow in it maybe.

      there's a definite endorphins thing when you finish a shift of hard physical work though, never got that with office plebbing.

      codpieceface @Songs_about_ducking | 11 Jun '13, 12:58 | X
      • Oh yeah

        but its an entirely different brand of unhappy. At its bluntest, for the vast majority of office jobs theres no END to something. It just goes on forever. The satisfaction of MAKING something and that being the end of your involvement cant be underestimated. When you just deal with the same shitty queries and the same processing work every day for the rest of eternity theres nothing to base yourself around. You cant have the same mundane greyness for the rest of your life or youll end up caving in on yourself

        Songs_about_ducking @codpieceface | 11 Jun '13, 13:24 | X
        Elaina_Casoolare this'd this
      • depends what sort of 'office job' you have

        If you're doing the office equivalent of a manual factory task then I can imagine that that's awful, but if you have a more creative job then its pretty fulfilling I reckon

        inside-outside @codpieceface | 11 Jun '13, 13:42 | X
      • pon de replay

        codpieceface @codpieceface | 11 Jun '13, 12:58 | X
        • can guarantee you that most people will read that as 'porn site' first time around

          Loui_Tacceh @codpieceface | 11 Jun '13, 13:01 | X
          moker this'd this
  • HO IZ MOKAR

    inside-outside | 11 Jun '13, 13:31 | X
  • I just don't know who I am any moboooohooohoohooohoo

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=eC6ChpMjAZI#t=49s

    yes_ | 11 Jun '13, 13:35 | X
    moker this'd this
  • Just drop the idea that you have a fixed identity at all

    Be a rotting leaf in the breeze.

    Yep, that's you Moker, a rotten leaf.

    MrBones | 11 Jun '13, 13:39 | X
  • some of this seems appropriate

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boredom (dont ignore it just because it says 'boredom' )

    creakyknees | 11 Jun '13, 13:53 | X
    • try meditation in a wood, just sit comfortably and try to hear as much as you can thats going on

      read the tao te ching.

      creakyknees @creakyknees | 11 Jun '13, 13:55 | X
  • he who is full cannot recieve anything new

    that which is empty can allow much in

    creakyknees | 11 Jun '13, 13:55 | X
    • allow the much to pass through if you wish, or you may chose to keep a little

      creakyknees @creakyknees | 11 Jun '13, 13:56 | X
  • Clearly you need some real world drama to distract you from your internal meanderings

    Suggestions:

    -Killering a man and going on the run
    -Purposefully contracting a life threatening illness
    -Going around making spiders bite you in the hopes of gaining superpowers
    -Have sex with your mate's mum, film it, then show him the film

    colossalhorse | 11 Jun '13, 14:45 | X
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