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I'm comfortable with it.
people keep trying to make me go.
They walk out with a degree and have gone on to get great jobs. The thing is, if I had have gone when I was 18 I would have just spent all of my loans on weed and never attended any lectures, and dropped out after a year. After that, I never fancied it really.
I'm 22, had enough 'wild' drinking in my teen years, don't give a shit about going out drinking or staying in drinking regularly, not up for sharing accomodation with others either strangers or friends, not interested in pulling fun pranks on roommates/friends etc, not interested in taking my education any further than I have already, not interested in trying to deal with SAAS again, not interested in doing another few years of paperwork, essays, deadlines and being skint.
I could go on but I'm sure you get my point ;)
But mainly I was a stoner during optimum uni-time.
always think it's a bit daft how uni gets forced on you in high school - I nearly applied just because I thought I was SUPPOSED to. No one said "you don't have to go" or "you can take some time off to actually decide what you want to do".
to it will feel that they HAVE to go.
And who miss out on a transformative experience.
high school should focus more on trying to guide people to the right path or showing them what paths they COULD take instead of cramming uni down their throat and forcing them to apply QUICKLY BEFORE THE UCAS DEADLINE!!!!!
The president of the national union of students never went to university.
Access to some form of tertiary education at some point in life, however, should be available to everyone.
University is for a certain 'type' of person. Until the most disadvantaged in society are just as likely and as equipped to go to uni as the most well-off there will be this weird middle class compulsion that your children must prove their worth by getting a certain type of education.
I totally agree that people who don't really want to go to uni, or whose talents and passions are my academic, are effectively forced into it. But they're doing so at a huge social cost.
Sorry my gone does this thing where I can't see text as I type it
and now I don't think I'd have the confidence to go back to education.
into a debt-filled pauper?
and ended up with a 2:1. Yay BA Media.
I'm (somewhat) comfortable with it as well
Though if it comes up in conversation, I mention that I went but I don't often say that I didn't finish unless specifically asked.
I'm glad I did.
I think of all the people I know who finished and are now either jobless and living with their parents, or doing similar work to me but have £14,000 more debt.
Also I never, ever have to write an essay again.
But they're massively in the minority.
i never noticed a difference until i was headed towards my late twenties, and suddenly I was still working a bullshit job but others were doing things they actually enjoyed and got something from.
but i'd also say it's a fallacy to suggest university is something you should only do for job-related reasons.
and I'm very glad of it.
I tried to tell myself it didnt matter.....but it kinda niggled me, so I did an OU degree several years later...
and the prison officer types it into DiS for him
Everyone had good skin and teeth
Normally a bit later in the year.
saw i had
They could have ended up at a poly
I was hoping one of the dickheads would rise to this and Id get a slathering hate filled tear soaked response. Not a sad face from you. Sorry :'(
Sorry to distract from your 'Haribo ^this' Thread pal.
that's golf, maaaaaaaan
Sometimes think the problem with uni is that it is foisted on you when you aren't ready for it. So fair play if you have taken the (brave) decision to do it now.
And I've got no debt.
And I'm fine with that.
Actually, I was never really the student type to be honest. There was money to be earned and the opportunity presented itself. I've never regretted it
but i didn't even and now i can't get into my account
Still miss it now a year later.
with massive chips on their collective shoulders about people who went to uni, and how lazy students are, and how they've done so well just through going straight to work.
its like they're parodying brent and finchy from the office, except they're not.
full of more sex, booze and daytime television then they'll see in a lifetime
i just say, "yeah but i partied and had sex non stop during the best years of my life"
when in fact that's only 90% true.
When I was younger though, I definitely felt really inferior for not having done it.
is for dickheads. Sorry, it just is.
Once you are old enough to capably learn anything by yourself (which with our bloated education system is unfortunately at around 15) if you are not teaching yourself you are a parasite,
was just some guy with a laptop set to webMD.
Wayyyyy cheaper and obvs just as good.
if someone was to spend 8 years studying medicine off their own back they'd be a much better doctor. I won't go to a 'doctor' anyways they are too over-qualified. I would rather die.
but that's obviously irrelevant.
Its not the same without you
Dickheads embrace me!
sorry, it just is.
It's just that self-teaching is never learning from oneself alone.
i know for sure that everything i know most about in life i've taught myself.
however, different people learn differently. i don't learn by having someone tell me facts. i learn well by doing things and learning from that. but some people do learn by having a teacher teach them.
then i went for the shabs but ended up with a degree so it was all alright in the end.
So I just didn't bother. It would have been a waste of time and money if I would have just plucked a subject out of thin air and studied it.
I missed out on the social aspect of it which is pretty sucky but I wouldn't go back as I still don't have a clue what I want to do.
I did a degree I wasn't particularly interested in and got a job I don't like as a result. Probably going to go back to uni and do something I actually like at some point.
"I regretted going to university deeply. Education is clearly important (we're repeatedly told by those who have a vested interest), but it's borderline self-indulgent to devote several years of your life to a single subject. That kind of blinkered obsession with one topic at the expense of all others doesn't sit easily with me. I say that as a man who can gen up on any subject to university standard and then chair a radio phone-in on it that informs and entertains. Wikipedia has made university education all but pointless.".
At 26 I found a subject I really wanted to study, I'm now halfway through and doing really well at it. It isn't something you have to do at 18 and anyone who says it is is a chump.
I enjoyed my degree and had fun and whatnot, but don't think it's gonna be an awful lot of use unless I suddenly decide to be a teacher.
If I had picked an easy option module, rather than geology (or even put some effort in along the way), I would have got a 2:1, which might have been spme aid in getting a job.
Note that this was back in the late 80s before loans. 12 hours of lectures/seminars a week, my 3rd year in France, liveable grant cheque, cheap beer & rent. Fucking loved every minute.
However, I went from being a swotty, bookworm workaholic after A-levels to a lazy, workshy pisshead/stoner by the time I graduated, and remain convinced that had I gone straight into the job market at 18, I'd be a lot better off than I am now. Much easier going straight from A-levels & living with your parents into a job than going from 4 years of hedonism (particularly my final year which was all E, acid house & Madchester). So, swings & roundabouts really. Basically it made me a better person but radically reduced my employability.
A trade off between being a socially inept virgin with a shitty but well-paid job, and being a slightly less socially inept non-virgin with an interesting, averagely-paid job and some decent stories to tell my grandchildren.
basically meant that I didn't have to make teas for my first year in the biz. Worth it? Probably.
and i loved it
it didn't increase my earning potential in anyway at all, but i'm really glad i went. I probably shouldn't have 'studied' what i did, or gone where i did go, but it's shaped me (i think) in really positive ways.
God knows what i'd be like if i hadn't gone. I might have never moved away from the home town - and that's a horrible thought.
By 18 I was heartily sick of small-town life and attitudes, and just wanted to meet people that had actually been places and done stuff and had points of view on things.
I'm glad I'm here, but it's annoying continually having to explain to people back home (not my family, just friends and locals and stuff) what the 'point' of it is.
was looking for a bigger bite.
I don't know whether they were the best years of my life, but they sure were great looking back.
I did a subject I loved (ancient history and archaeology) and was in Devon for 3 years- what's not to love!
don't be sad your dumb, dumb people have much more fun ;)
What degree should I do.
A humanities type person
I know you excluded this anyway but I wanted to be safe.
Get a degree and an actually useful skill.
I didn't have a language at A Level, and I was pretty awful at German GCSE. Did you do French GCSE? If you got a C or higher then you can still get in to most good universities.
Languages like Japanese, Chinese, Arabic, Russian start from scratch, and the language side of things doesn't make up that much of your mark. Plus, year abroad! It's like a whole year of not having to do anything.
But, you know, you could just be really boring and do history or english.
and hated every minute of the time I spent in that class. Never considered doing a language at uni.
Probably better than doing law or English though
squinting in the sunlight, sweating all over the place, my hair frizzing up from sweat and heat and I don't have any suitable Summer clothing 'cos I'm a fatty. I'm a sexy bitch.
this is what happens when you open two threads in separate tabs and click on the wrong one to reply. Excellent.
I will just copy/paste to the appropriate thread and we can return to normal.
now i'm working at a better job than i could possibly have hoped for and have never felt better.
it wasn't until i left school and started work that i realised how stressed out i was at school. every night of school past year 9 i'd go to bed with this knot in my stomach, stressing out about something or other. now every night i go to bed, i sleep like a baby.
my plan was to take a year out (involuntarily, i only took it because i fucked up my ASes) and then go to uni. but taking a year out has made me realise that uni just isn't for me. i was only going because it's "the done thing". i was going to be doing a course for the sake of it, which i'm fairly certain i would have dropped out from.
there wasn't a single person at my school who said to me "not going to university isn't always a bad thing". uni's the right thing for a lot of people, just not everyone. if you continue to do things you don't enjoy, life is going to throw more things at you that you don't enjoy. it's not until that you step out and start doing things for yrself as opposed to impress others that life starts giving you things you actually enjoy doing.
I always thought it would be compensation for the mostly rubbish time I had at school. And I've had bits of fun no doubt, but really it's been just another stressful and alienating experience if I'm honest, and I had quite a traumatic time in my first year in halls. I'm starting to think I'm not really cut out for uni, don't feel like I'm man enough to cope with it.
Plus the representation of social class is not good. In fact it's a disgrace.
Having said that, getting a good mark in an essay has proved to be possible, so I'm gonna slog through it.
Let the bowler do the work
don't feel like I'm man enough to cope with it.'
Couldn't this be said of life though?
I do think that uni is perhaps not for everyone, at least not at school leaving age, as some people don't have enough directoin or diea as to what they'd like to study. othwers aren't mature enough to embrace the experience.
However, the thing I found about uni, that I am yet to find in any opther area of life, was how it caterred for EVERYONE. there was a niche for everyone, a club or society to join where you wouldn't necessarily be in the minority or the dweeb, and it was far far more inclusive than anywhere else I had been in my life up until that point, and I don't think I've fouind anywhere like it again.
So, I'm not sure saying that you'#re not man enough washes with me. You have to take responsibility in your life for finding a life that suits you and uni is good at tecahing you that, if you let it. Otherwise you run the risk of drifting forever in an existence, not a life.
When did you start uni?
as I thought he was applying for it/ somethign about a UCAS form or a job interview that does not stack up. Can't be bothered grappling with thesearch function though/ remembering his old name.
just remembered this is the one i thought was/is cuntby
and I don't remember saying any of that.
which isn't hard to do when you all keep changing your bloody names.
I started a little bit later because I massively fucked my A-Levels first time round, something I'm a bit sensitive about.
is probably part of the problem
was on track for another A in Maths but the last module exam was hurrendous, even caused some uproar on TheStudentRoom.
and neither does anyone else. that's the point
look, I'm just sensitive (or maybe 'ashamed' is a better word) about the fact that I previously spent 2 years doing essentially nothing.
no one cares about you or anything you do anywhere close to as much as you do. the same's true with everyone, once you realise this, you can get on with functioning as an adult
it's just that once someone criticises me for reasons I think are a bit unfair, I feel like I have to explain myself more and more, but I'll try not to do it anymore.
it was ok. definitely feel like I was sold a lie about how magical doors open when you have a degree tho. I have a science one, not a micky mouse one, but didn't realise at the time you need post grad to do anything with it
Got to the point where I was listening to lectures on free thought and signals and signs, and escaping binary structures and stuff and it genuinely pissed me off they would then turn around and test us, grading our thoughts and pathetic shit like grammar. Still doesn't make sense to me.
I think what I'm saying is uni's a hierarchical structure like a job or the army and it tried to shape me and that's why I didn't dig it by the end.
Still feel like I wasted the opportunity though. The first two years were some of the worst of my life - the whole experience transformed me from being really outgoing to painfully shy, destroyed my self confidence, etc. Makes me sad when people talk about how much they loved it, I am so jealous of them :(
Well I don't know about you but frankly I can live with that.
And anything leftover gets written off after you've been working for 25 years.
(And it was a really hard core 4 maths exam. For the record I actually did okay in it).
about my thoughts on my time at university.
once told someone at a party that I went to 'the university of life'
they thought I said 'the university of fife'
that's all I've got really.
But then got an apprenticeship instead and didn't go. Almost two years into the apprenticeship which has been total shit and I think I've finally figured out what I want to do, so I've re-applied and will hopefully go this year but probably next year due to the financial side of it. I'm glad I didn't go to study politics cos I think I would've stumbled along, probably passing it just about and been bored the whole time and I never felt *ready*, but now I do and I'm actually excited to study and revise.
It'll be nice to meet people and stuff too, with literally every other friend going when you were supposed to, it can get pretty isolated.
and came across this.
about how little a shit most people gave about studying and learning stuff and becoming intellectually enlightened and that. For most people it was a 3 year rite-of-passage middle class piss up. Found it quite vulgar to be honest but that's life.
Think more of a distinction needs to be made between `going to university` and `getting a degree` sometimes. There are many ways to do the latter without having to go through the insane expense of the former.
...the contraction of the word `university` to `uni` really grinds my gears. Always has. Can't put a finger on why.
I NEVER LEARNT TO READ.
my undergraduate degree was such a waste of time. This website is completely free, academically rigorous and taught me more in a few months of doing a dissertation than any lecturers or recommended books (that i didnt read) did in the previous 2 and a half years http://plato.stanford.edu/
I guess i don't regret going to uni cos having that qualification is quite important and i wouldve had a much worse time in that three years had i not gone to uni. It shouldve been much, much better though and i get angry thinking about it sometimes.