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I watch it every morning. I think it's perfect.
i love it
it made me feel smug and intelligent when i got the jokes when watching it as a kid
some strong characters, some weak. Nice story arcs and decent episodes but the pun act titles are annoying. Good mix of clever wordplay & slapstick.
On the potato scale I award it a slightly burnt but pleasing rosti.
I'd say that post was pretentious if it wasn't for the potato scale at the end which has made it, frankly, brilliant.
Frasier and Niles are perfect - but the rest of the characters aren't. As a result it's pretty inconsistent. I was watching it last year and thinking it wasn't half as good as I remember it being...
Cheers is better than Frasier. The early series of Cheers with Diane and Coach in them. Now that was perfection.
Niles isn't even that good. Cheers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frasier
The interplay between Frasier and Niles, however, is still magnificently written - some of the greatest sitcom characterisation ever that.
coz he's not surrounded by other similar but weaker characters. I never understood why he didn't go to Cheers in Frasier as well, just some shit eating coffee shop like he was in Friends now or something
that you think what on EARTH was he doing drinking in Cheers in the first place. Certainly a continuity fail there, I'll grant you that andyvine.
Woody from Cheers has done alright for himself hasn't he
I always thought success/divorce had changed him. He does allude to hanging out in the bar as a pretty dark time and some of the crossover episodes it seems pretty obvious he dislikes a lot of the Cheers lot now...
love the jung vs freud humour
sometimes it does get into quite insipid old sitcom territory though
remember his quarrels with his neighbour being really good
The jokes are the same as you'd find on the Big Bang Theory except they use Chateau le tour and Miles Davis as references instead of Pepsi and Batman. The farce episodes like where they're in the cabin running between each other's rooms are nicely done.
I mean, not totally baseless, but it only works if you disregard, y'know... the dazzling wit, the immaculate structure (don't think BBT's audience would know a good farce if there happened to be one on said show, during which Sheldon wore a t-shirt saying THIS IS A COMPLETE FARCE, SCIENCE REFERENCE, and kept comparing the scale of the farce to a recent scientific convention), or the brilliant acting (mostly Niles and Frasier).
But if its not extremely well scripted, set and executed then its nothing like Frasier.
the only similarity is that they're both rooted in the classic US sitcom format.
but really hit its stride when Niles and Daphne got together.
On a par with the Seinfeld creations
though you'd need to see the whole episode to know why it was so funny the joke was set up quite early on.
Frasier and Niles are perfect characters, played to perfection.
This scene: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mWiPaQ872c :')
when the conversation turned to Frasier and I said I loved it. This woman was like "I thought that show was for old people". Rude.
but my mum was borderline racist in her hatred of his accent so i couldn't keep it on when she was in the room :(
stripped to the waist to ever be considered perfect.
If we could track down every episode featuring Daphne's family (Robbie Coltrane et al) and burn them all it would be a lot closer to perfection.
Daphne is awful
is that i used to maybe fancy her a bit. NOT the accent.
bit less annoyingly though
I enjoyed the episode where Niles accidentally gets stoned after eating a brownie and doesn't realise.
he ISN'T stoned, because Martin ate the pot brownie. He ate a regular brownie and pretends to be stoned.
I love it and its one of very few shows me and my dad could agree on
Smyth2's dad: You're not wrong son
I can't place it.
she's meant to be from Manchester
what part of the North? King's Landing?
some kind of Dougal/Father Jack Hybrid
never call my knowledge of GoT into question. my fanfiction character is VERY well researched.
i thought the whole reason she got famous is because it was so unusual back then for an englisher to be in a mainstream american show. i.e. that she is english.
He used to work in Lewis's (now Primark) at Piccadilly Gardens. He was the one that suggested Daphne was from Manchester.
rather take a cheese grater to my balls than watch this rammel
but that's been limited to a few episodes at 8am. Big fan of Cheers though, at least til Diane left. After that the plots suddenly seemed to get whacky to compensate. The original appeal was the simplicity of the plots/setting. Only seen a handful of post-Diane episodes though.
where they tried to play tricks on them but were always outfoxed
Tailed off towards the end in the last couple of series but had a run of about 5-6 absolutely great series with some brilliant episodes.
Great show. Some of the comedy was sublime. Favourite Niles line:
'Well, her lips said "no", but her eyes said "read my lips".'
I love the Frazier / Roz relationship. It reminds me of me and moousee.
Can you imagine?
No I can not.
Peri Gilpin (sp?) FTW.
because of his drink/drug/partying ways, which surprised me when I first heard about it.
Kelsey Grammer's had some absolutely horrendous tragedies occur in his life though.
Barely able to stand, then he's snap in to character, nail his scenes in one take & get straight back on it when filming finished.
(Might just hide out in here until everyone on DiS is 100% agreed on what terrorism is/is not.)
Needs more catchphrases/memorable lines for meths to repeat endlessly.
where Frasier has been dating a supermodel but nobody believes him. The payoff line is SUPERB.
Brilliant show (when it wasn't being shit).
Loads of the women he dates are ludicrously fit.
1. "such a Libra thing to say"
2. "I think they call them 'bras' now"
3. "she did actually say, 'i was wondering what that dishwasher manual was for'"
4. "I'm impressed you could mime a virgin"
2, 3 = meths
oh I see it's your birthday soon sir.
- is it?...er no yes yes your right!
- ...ok...what is the the nature of your business here this week?
- the americans.
you are: Daphne/Royter-Hatfood
You know meths and Frasier quite well but haven't got close enough to either to really understand how their brains work
should have spotted the lowercase
but 1 & 3 are meths, 2 & 4 are Frasier
Please arrange a trophy.
I know of one that won't be that missed by the team that won it
After a series of bad dates with “sophisticated, upper-class women”, a friend sets him up with Candi (whom the friend describes as “fun”) and he becomes engaged to her after a one night stand...
Frasier or meths?
He has always believed that people are fundamentally decent and good, but he now finds his beliefs and patience tested when he attempts a series of acts of kindness and they all turn out badly. Firstly, he finds and returns a lost wallet in [his favourite cafe], and the owner accuses him of stealing money from it; secondly, he helps a woman load a dog into her car at the airport, and she drives away without thanking him; thirdly, he stops to help a man with a flat tire, and the man calls in to [the radio station where he works] threatening to sue him for damage to his car. Later, driving home in the rain, he comes across a stranded woman and considers whether or not to give her a ride. Despite the events of the day, he decides to help her, only to discover that she is a prostitute (and also a transvestite), and that the police are watching everything. He is arrested and held at in a police cell, where his father and brother must bail him out...
FRASIER or METHS?
while attending his regular neighbourhood sports activity, he is approached by a newcomer who recognises him, finding the situation amusing he just laughs and rides away on a garish bicycle
FRASIER OR METHS?
'The Nuremberg Raleigh'. One of my favourite episodes.
The two brothers are aghast to realise that they have paid over $8,000 for luncheon with three Nobel Laureates having bid against each other. Later that night, over sherry in [Brother 1’s] apartment, they ask themselves where their harsh sibling rivalry originated, and reminisce about how they once took IQ Tests while they were younger. Their mother never told them the answers; only that they were 2 points apart.
In an effort to bring closure to their rivalry once and for all, their father reluctantly agrees to show them the results, and it soon transpires that whilst [Brother 1] has an IQ level of 129, [Brother 2] has the larger IQ: 156. At first, their responses are mature and non-competitive, but their true feelings cannot be concealed for long.
The brothers attempt to outdo each other by studying all night in a university library. [Brother 1] drinks a great deal of coffee to stay awake, and [Brother 2] takes some allergy medicine to deal with his dust mite and parchment allergy problem. The medicine makes him dopey, and he proceeds to pass out at the luncheon table, destroying everything, just as the Nobel Laureates walk into the room.
FRASIER\NILES or METHS\SMEE?
There were dozens of them in the lift on the way up with a very enthusiastic guide. As the doors started to close she asked if anyone had any questions about Seattle she could answer. My friend asked her where the dog from Frasier lived. The guide replied curtly that Frasier wasn’t actually filmed in Seattle and she wouldn’t be taking any further questions. The remainder of the journey was conducted in silence.
There were dozens of them outside the Windmill with a very enthusiastic guide. As the doors started to close she asked if anyone had any questions about South London she could answer. My friend asked her where the dayglo pushbike was parked. The guide replied curtly that the Smee Bros wasn’t actually filmed in Brixton and she wouldn’t be taking any further questions. The remainder of the journey was conducted in silence.
the one where it's the 1000th radio show and Frasier gets a public rally but fails to show up after an ill-fated stroll across central Seattle.
Probably the one where Frasier ends up accidentally dating Kenny's wife. Kenny's the best.
But I do love "The Innkeepers" where Frasier and Niles try to live out their boyhood dreams of running a restaurant.
almost vomited when somebody compared it to Big Bang Theory.
It's the one where daphne keeps going to the British pub and Fraser wants to join her.
Was worried this was going to happen when they pressed reset
He's a political machine mayor of Chicago, equal parts Frasier's suave and Sideshow Bob's evil. only lasted two seasons sadly, but Grammar is excellent in it.
is it worth sticking through?
which is probably why it didn't do well. INDEED after watching the first season across two weeks I started d/ling the second season as it was airing but kinda gave up after a few episodes. gonna fix that now I'm freeeeee for the summer <3
I've officially finished my degree now so have that lovely ooo maybe I'll bake a cake ooo maybe I'l watch a film feeling. no guilt.
i mean i still have to go to work and all but i work evenings/weekends so my daytimes are my own. i went for a swim at 7:30 this morning! it was nice.
I enjoyed " hello this is dr crane at table seven could you please send someone over to brush down my chair" or w/e he said
Everyone is in and just mingles around getting introduced so you always get the perspective of the others.
It's very written-for-stage
It's always perfect
probably a popular choice.
and the Niles 'silent' skit in that Valentines Day episode is petty much entirely perfect
So so perfect
this episode about Frasier's new radio show themetune is brilliant.
was so perfect
I am pro-opera and I vote
So snobbish that even Netscape Navigator and Internet Explorer weren't good enough for him.
saw an epiose the other day where the dad takes both sons to a sort of budget burger restaurant. top notch. after that i watched the one where they see New Year in on the road. it's great.
but i watched the whole first series in the space a few days recently <3
but 'Dinner at Eight' is the best of that series.