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anyone here being a nurse? I properly love them.
Could you be a nurse? I couldn't be a nurse. Too much bum wiping.
thank you nye bevan
there is a LOT of bum wiping, way more than I could have possibly imagined. Was in an old women's ward at LGI yesterday and in the space of 2 hours the same nurse had to clean up 3 women, one of which had it "all down her legs". Stench was so bad I had to leave, and she's doing a 12 hour shift! Worra saint
are teaching, nursing and social work. 99% of people enquiring have no qualifications and never (well, very rarely) worked. I mean, what are these people on? These are tough jobs that require a fairly sharp mind and ridiculous amount of graft. I dont know why divs find them so attractive
if you're well into it would be pretty magical, the fairy tale aspects of it, but I bet there's also a lot of fluids to be mopped up. Like, browny red fluids
Its just theres a frightening amount of people who think theyre joke jobs. Social work from people I know who do it just burns you out after about 3 years.
must be real scumbags. It'd be hard to motivate yourself to actually want to help them
I'd be shit at it cause I can't even hold a baby but it must be incredible going to work every day and bringing new people into the world.
then when the baby comes out you go 'Issa me, Mario'
they're called 'kiwi cups', those plunger things. No idea why, I imagine they were invented by a lazy man to pick up far away kiwi fruits.
that they're jobs that require 'caring' attributes rather than, instead of as well as, highly technical and academic ability.
were certified idiots. i don't get it either. "the thing about me is i tell it like it is, yeah, know what i mean i'm just me, i say it to your face". that lot. thankfully i don't think they end up actually doing the job. imagine you were really reliant on your social worker and they were replaced with some jabbering berk.
left school at 16 and enrolled in a childcare course. She quit after 3 weeks because it turned out to be more complicated than learning how to change a nappy. She was then on the dole for 3 years!
So yeah, exactly what you said!
I don't mean to offend anyone, I'm sure there are lots of great people who've studied psychology and gone on to great things, but most people at school who wanted to do seemed to assume they could do three years at a crap uni and turn into a cash generating blend of Derren Brown and Sigmund Freud.
Something you do when you don't know what you want to do.
And we've actually upped the science GCSE entry requirements this year, because so many unsuitable people were turning up in August saying stuff like "I want to read people's minds!" who'd end up stuck on the course and inevitably fail once they had to do some actual experiments and evaluation.
Some always make it through the trial period and it's soul-crushing trying to get them to pass the year.
PROPER BUM WIPING
Because I'm a bit of an idiot.
I looked after my mum pretty well hen she had an accident the other year, but thats because she's my mum and I love her and I felt like it was my duty to look after her.
But one thing that really struck me was how fucking rude people are to nurses. Yet the doctors, who are the ones actually dicking you the patient around and telling you conflicting stuff are treated reverentially.
I was nice to all the nurses on my ward cos they worked bloody hard and I totes got preferential treatment - extra toast at breakfast, they gave me a cup of tea first, would do my blood pressure at night without waking me up and would let me keep my eye mask on at night.
When I finished I came back and gave them a thank you card and a box of chocolates. They said it was the first time anyone had done that for them :(
Also, nursing as a profession is very well-unionised and nurses, overall, get pretty favourable pay and conditions in the hospital food chain. As they should.
Junior doctors and general doctors (as in, not senior doctors and consultants etc.) have much worse pay and conditions compared to the expense of their training than nurses do. Sure, they've got vastly greater and more lucrative career opportunities than nurses do, but working as a ward doctor sounds pretty ropey.
This is all drawn from close familial experience of working in hospitals. It's a popular public narrative that nurses get a raw deal but, in reality, they don't. Although LLB's spot on in his above post, that they get more frequently appalling treatment from patients than anyone else. That's what makes the job tough.
Also there are loads more clinical jobs than just doctors and nurses, where the pay isn't superb. pay and conditions for nurses has improved a lot though but it sounded pretty awful from what my mum's told me. actually went to an employment tribunal when I was in my mum's tummy over lack of flexible working or something.
As I said - doctors have far more lucrative rewards to be gained during their careers so, even though their training is expensive and their initial jobs are really quite bad, they'll ultimately be fine if they play their cards right.
Yeah nursing's improved a lot over a generation from what I've heard. Rightfully so too.
the worst thing in the world, the worst people are the people that sue the NHS. Absolute offal, these people.
Granted, there's bound to be some legitimate claims in there but it really annoys me that there are so so many of them
Nurses see you at your weakest and do all the horrible jobs, while the doctor swans in an does the "life saving" part. One of the reasons why people aren't nicer is embarrassment I suppose.
I've noticed that the family members who get annoyed with the nurses and moan about the ward, bed, staff, food and everything else are the one's who don't come to visit every day.
One woman for example never has any visitors, so she just lies in bed all day every day, dozing off and waking up, no real sense of day/night, date/time. She's going insane by the day, and her family are complaining about it, trying to sue the NHS... What they fail to realise is that she's going insane because THEY, her family, are neglecting her. She needs some sense of continuity, something to look forward to, something to remember - she gets none of this, so when people DO make the effort they're suddenly shocked that it's not the woman they remember - and of course this MUST be the hospital's fault. Blame blame blame... probably Rupert Murdoch's doing
There was a patient who was dying, and every day he was on the phone begging a member of the patient's family to come and see him. On the day he passed on, the doctor stayed until 2am as he wanted to be there to inform the family when he died. He made the phone call and the person at the other end started screaming at him saying *you never said he was going to die* *sue sue sue* etc.
Guy put down the phone, looked utterly broken. Left, came back again at 10am. Just don't know how they do it
On the way out I was queuing for a coffee and my junior consultant was in the line in front of me. I went to say hello but she turned around and said almost like a serial killer *I'm well aware of who you are, don't fucking talk to me*
I feel like being a nurse
when someone says 'nurse' does it automatically make you think it's a woman? Less so doctor = man but there's still a sort of male presumption. My brain is so sexist.
although in my recent trips to the hospital I've seen only female nurses and male doctors!
and when we got there the waiter referred to me as Dr Palmer and I was pretty furious. She didnt care though, said it happened all the time
cause most of our family friends are men nurses.
Having worked on a fair few hospital jobs with ward refurbs, I'd say that the split of senior ward nurses (i.e. those that I've dealt with) is about 50/50, although the profession as a whole is a lot more female dominated.
There are still definite divisions within the different types of young doctors, with many more females going onto become GPs, and males going on to become surgeons. Overall, the number of doctors qualifying is split something like 60/40 in favour of females.
Interestingly, the NHS is the only area of work/the economy in Britain that has more females than males on executive boards. I would say that about three quarters of Trust board members I've dealt with are female.
MPs salaries up
when i was in hospital for a few weeks when i was 13 the nurse looking after me let me watch Stargate SG-1, which was a strict no-no (no AO programs and no TV after 8.30). Great lad.
and seeing nurses working their arses off, even over christmas eve and day, trying to make the best of a bad situation and make patients feel as cared for as possible over such a sensitive period was a credit to the profession. made me feel grateful as a patient but also pretty guilty about how cushy i have it sat at my desk, being able to punch in at 9 and punch out at 5 on the button.
thankless job, spoken to shit by a lot (not all) relatives/patients who blow smoke up the doctors arses as mentioned above, overworked, underpaid, taken for granted by hospital managers, regularly assaulted, deal with things (bodily fluids) that 99% of the population would baulk at, not really respected tbh. does have some perks though.
out of interest
to look after nice folk. love my colleagues. good holiday allowance.
my dad has been in hospital a lot recently after a stroke.
i know they work bloody hard for shit pay, but a few of them have a very cold an unhelpful attitude. in know they're probably numb from years of seeing terrible things, and getting moaned at by family members - but they didn't seem to want to make the effort to ease my dad's distress, answer simple questions or be forthcoming with updates on progress.
most of them were great though.
I couldn't do their job.
She has all kinds of fancy leg ulcer specification certificates.
saying how great he was and an asset to the NHS etc. I got a reply saying it had made his / his boss's day.
So yeah nurses are bloody great.
the nurses were utterly incredible. Absolutely brilliant.