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that are actually not.
And jobs people think are graft which are actually not.
Off shoot from other thread obviously.
normally think most creative jobs are easy and are easy money.
they certainly do not get huge bundles of cash
Creating houses and that init
musician, artist.. comedian
Actually quite a skill, and long hours and fairly shit pay a lot of the time.
I think lots of people see journalism as a bit glamorous/exciting/creative, but the long hours/stress/low pay are pretty obvious, aren't they?
Knew plenty of people at uni who seemed to think that because, you know, news articles or album reviews are quite short and that then it must be a doddle.
because people can just knock up their little blog in the evening they see it as being pretty much the same thing as being an unpaid journalist. You're both just writing about stuff, what's the difference?
(And stuff my pockets with canapes to eat as that day's meal on the bus home).
It's all oneupmanship and subtle trying to work out whose more successful then you drink lots of cheap red wine and all fall over.
apart from journalism undergraduates and their parents?
Most people think it's a grubby, sleazy occupation.
it's virtually like being a spy!
If you're the Peter Parker, scouring the streets dictaphone in hand on the trail of a vigilante hero type, fair play to you.
If you're Richard Littlejohn, you can fuck off.
"They get paid a fortune and still they have the nerve to go on strike etc etc." I don't think you could pay me enough to sit on my own trundling back and forth through dark tunnels all day, occasionally running someone over.
If not, the deal's off.
Wouldn't be much more than minimum wage in the rest of the country
So you can live the high life in Watford with no commuting costs.
You could just drive back to Watford. Company car like.
i'd quite like one of those.
just press a button innit
But that falls into the same category of working in an office - Sitting there doing fuck all for extended periods of time, except fiddling with a computer occasionally.
Or they just aren't giving you any attention for it
Just lying on your back all day.
(I asked your mum about it, she confirmed).
It takes a lot of effort and patience to sit around doing absolutely fuck all for 8 hours a day
DiS isn't going to post on itself...
actually not that much graft involved
then spend all day eating pizza in your pants.
get some gimps who were bullied at school to moderate... sorted!
Working with children
Now, these jobs are fairly complex and stressful (in their own way) so why do so many people seem to think they can just do these when theyre fucking idiots?
and he says he cant see himself lasting more than 5 years it'll just burn him out. Sounds harrowing some of the stuff he deals with
Who want to be nurses. I've always considered it to be a job that requires someone who is fairly switched on.
You try and explain they need to be in the work environment already with us and they cant get into their thick fucking heads that you cant learn to be a nurse sitting at home looking at books for 4 years.
She lasted about 3 weeks of nights before walking out mid-shift because she couldn't cope with it.
who acted like asking them to have standard grades in english and maths was like asking them to create a rocket that could get 3 men to the moon. She was incredulous that she had to have a sliver of formal education behind her.
People see the hourly rate and think it looks like the dog's bollocks.
(To be fair, once you're qualified you can rake it in)
and it is going to cost me/has already cost me a hell of a lot, plus a shed load of work not sure why this is being classed as an easy option to be fair.
who thought they could take a 5 week course and then earn +£50/hr straight off. They always changed their tune when you told them it would be a minimum of 4 years of training.
that actually learning another language especially a non verbal one is really difficult.
It's also ridiculously expensive my next course is £1200.
Once you're qualified as a BSL interpretor/instructor you will earn significant amounts of money. But, you'll be self-employed too with little stability of clientele and with often a lot of travel involved.
But yeah the issue with learning BSL is the fact you can't immerse yourself in it to learn it. I mean you could learn fluent French in a year if you were immersed in the culture and you depended on it to get by. You can't go to an island full of deaf people and learn from them...
But, yeah, being a BSL interpretor/palantypist etc. etc. certainly isn't easy money. It is well paid (largely owing to supply and demand), but it's certainly not easy money.
Easy money; no effort.
Lots of sports require a level of fitness that restricts what a competitor can eat/drink and continued training to stay in good physical shape. And often the pay is no better than an office job.
It's hard, physical work and pays fuck all.
sometimes it's a real struggle to get those 3 pandas in a row
Must up to their fedoras in solid gold chalices.
Looked at job options when I graduated. Minimum wage supervising digs abroad, living in a tent. 6-8months only. Wank. Museum and store work is all old people volunteering so you get part time if you're qualified up to your eyeballs and ridiculously lucky.
The previous encumbant dies
had to volunteer in the BM for TWO YEARS before she got a part time job doing anything close to curating.
Now she's an assistat curator working full time... and earn £16,000 a year.
One day, when she is the top of her field, she might earn as much as her boyfriend did the first month of his grad scheme.
I suppose the BM would be mentally competitive. I've got a couple of friends with postgrads doing another language so they can do fairly mundane jobs in public museums. Nuts.
When I just finished my degree, I did a Dig with Exeter Archaeology, and the guy supervising the site with 20 odd paid staff and volunteers was on 17k. 1 month later I was on more than that with 0.5% of the responsibility.
I think I could contribute
Lot more to it than being a midget.
They work long hours and get paid very averagely. And jump racing in particular is dangerous. Most other sports where serious injury is a possibility pay significantly more
Sit in a nice warm office all day doing what is largely unchallenging work for what you are qualified to do. 95% of the people you see will have obvious/easily treatable illnesses. You'll work mainly 9-5 with the odd phone call at home. You'll trouser about £60k as a result.
The road to getting there is pretty intense but once you get there - pretty cushty.
Can get fairly close to and above six figures and plenty do I think.
And it is largely very easy work.
The problem is - it is isolating and almost horrendously boring. Especially when you consider just how fascinating certain other areas of medicine are.
but she turned it down and went to south Africa as it was the "Trauma capital of the world". Most young doctors actually GO where its MORE dangerous on PURPOSE out of CHOICE! Fuck that.
You study medicine for about 10 years or something, and it flexes your brain like nothing else. It's fascinating. Some people can't hack the lack of stimulation...
Like GPs but deal with 1/100th of the human body that GPs have to.
Most of them are on about £80k I think.
having to poke around in people's mouths, smell their breath etc.
and making a 'poo-whiff' face.
You don't make millions overnight.
Plenty of well respected, award nominated, large publishing housed authors earn absolutely squat. Looking for a hyped launch, film,/tv option or unlikely hit/booker prize to begin earning above office drone wages.
Although obviously three months writing a book off a publishing advance beats office drone work. Too much luck for it to be sustainable as a long-term career plan though.
All but a couple have day jobs away from the writing, and the ones who were 'full time' writers spent a lot of time doing things to supplement their income (teaching creative writing, writing reviews etc).
A friend of mine mentioned on Facebook that he was sitting next to Billy Bragg on the plane back from SXSW, and someone made a comment along the lines of "Ask that rich hypocrite what it's like to be in the 1 per cent." LOL. How many records do they think he's selling?!
He is minted. Not 1% minted, but minted all the same.
Just not Billy Bragg ones.
Who did he sell it to?
I know he made a load of money from something to do with Cooking Vinyl or maybe it's predecessor and gave stupid amounts of it to Phil fucking Jupitus. AND he started singing in a weird(er) accent.
If you really want to know you can read the biog Andrew Collins did, but I wouldn't recommend it.
And she is easily one of the best writers around, very marketable I would think too. Also, she wrote: 'some people carry their emotional life around like a dead rat in a box' - for fuck's sake.
They still exist for non-fiction.
With thrillers and other commerical fiction you usually get deals for several books (which are written quicker), but it's still only a fraction of writers who can safely live of it. Patricia Cornwell may have a private jet, but she's in the 1% of the 1%.
It's not just making playlists you know.
It's not just making dubstep albums you know.
Couple of years on a scooter to do the knowledge, then the only way to really earn decent money is to save enough to buy your own cab and work long hours at night. Hard work...
we'd go out all night and his dad would just give him a lift home at the end of the night from wherever. still, wouldn't want to have done what he did and live with my parents at uni.
When actually advertising is pretty nerve racking. No one makes a decision until it's too late leaving you 2 months to pull off a year's work.
You start with a pretty good idea until everyone chips in their bollocks 2 cents until it morphs into a hotch potch compromise. You then work 7am to 2am for a month to pull off something none of you actually like and rather than clinking glasses you seething opposite people fantasising about how many different way you could kill them.
And yes, people who know me, I AM well aware I posted a picture on facebook of a bottle of champagne I was given today
And wishes to share their oracular experiences with the group?
You know working FOR Boots or Lloyds not owning your own bussiness.
Decent hours (9-6) mostly and working 1 Sat in 2/3 (usually half-day)
Earn + £45,000 / year
Just sticking labels on boxes innit ;-)