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The march of Ed get too much to bear?
Thunderbirds are go!!
Good luck to him I say.
Not fair on your constituents.
...but he should really be leaving at the next election, you're right.
Miliband's not at Mensch levels of deviance by bailing out at this stage of a term, but it's been clear for some time his career in politics isn't going to match his own personal ambitions. I don't begrudge him leaving but, you're quite right, he should leave at the end of a parliamentary term - not in the middle of one.
The man, in 2010 (and the years leading up to it) managed to convince a group of constituents that he was the person to represent their needs for the duration of the next political term. That he has broken that promise because he was unable to foresee the strains that the demands of being an MP would have on his family is his fault and his fault only.
Don't get me wrong, I sympathise to an extent because he might be in a pretty horrible situation with it all. But it's a situation entirely of his own idiotic making so... fuck him.
and fed back but with the gender changed? Sounds like it.
Either way - I stand by those comments, and I stand by the comments I've made in this thread. Miliband should've done his job and lasted the full term (Smee made a very fair point here), but at least he's been an MP for, what, 12 years and done a fair old stint as opposed to taking the job and then deciding they couldn't be bothered... The situations are different and have received different levels of scorn accordingly.
I was just re reading it this morning to see what was said then and now. Like you say they're not really the same but it does come across as him thinking the job as a lowly constituency mp for South Shields is beneath him when that was what he was elected to do.
...it's also a touch unfair because analysis of Mensch always comes with a lot more negative baggage than analysis of Miliband but there you go!
Yep - but to analyse it solely in those terms would be unfair to him. The reason I say that is because most people in most careers have an idea how they'd like to progress. We do certain jobs because we want to `move up`. David Miliband is now never going to achieve what he wants so, yes, his job IS below him in that regard but so what? Everyone would think the same in any profession. If I went for my bosses job and it was vetoed and I was told "you're never going to move up from where you are now" damn right I would go somewhere else. Most humans would.
You're right that that's what he was elected to do, and hence my concession he should finish his term. However, it's not as if he's swanning off to sit on the board of a megacorp who are going to drill for shale somewhere is it? He's taken a job for a noble cause and one which, I would hope, be an equivalent in salary and not a cashing in/moving up which most ex-MPs do.
So - as I said, fair play to him.
Imagine if I'd fallen into that trap and gone "you speak a load of absolute shite, pal" or something. Just imagine that.
I don't really have any pride/reputation to uphold on here but...
there's a fair argument that says he's unable to fairly represent his constituents given the way the media blow everything he says out of all proportion and frame it in terms of undermining his brother and leader - a new backbench MP would be able to fight for his constituents without it always been taken as a slapdown of Ed.
in Britain politics. I'm not a fan of his ideas but he's a good politician; far better than his kid brother.
good luck to the man.
'International Rescue' on BBC Breakfast whilst eating my Weetabix this morning.
That is all I have to say on the matter.
He'll be back.
To be honest having followed both of them since the leadership contest, it's clear who the heavyweight is in terms of charisma and leadership. And Ed has turned out to look pretty flimsy where once he was supposed to be the more ideologically left-wing of the two.
I'm hoping that when David comes back to British politics he comes with the radicality of a man who feels he's in the last chance saloon
Even if D-Mili does come back, there's no way he's suddenly going to present himself as a radical socialist, no matter how well or how badly his career is going. For one thing, nobody would buy it.
For all the valid criticisms you can throw at Ed Milliband, the party would be a lot closer to the Tories ideologically if David was in charge.
I also don't think Ed Milliband's reign will prove to lead nowhere. Things are pretty volatile and probably depends on what happens with the economy, UKIP, the Lib Dems and maybe even the Left Unity but I reckon as it stands Milliband will be the next PM, if only because the Tories aren't strong enough to increase or even maintain their support.