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So, there is going to be a re-trial. What do you think about that?
Other than that, the whole thing is just a bit grim and obviously horrible for the Kircher family to have to deal with.
They seem pretty happy about this though. Pretty sure they are convinced that Knox and the other bloke were responsible
...she just got 40% sexier.
I didn't realize how risible some of the evidence against her really is.
30% less sexier...
28.6% less sexy
although the hypothesis about what Rudy Guede was doing there feels a bit slapdash in comparison to the rest of the piece. I know it's primarily about Amanda Knox, but I just found myself thinking "how do we know he had a spicy kebab for dinner?" It might be something that's been definitively established, but the way it's just tossed in there undermines the whole Building A Case On Actual Evidence thing that the article rests on.
In the loo.
You seemed pretty upset about it, thought I might be helping.
(I looked it up – turns out he mentioned it in a statement.)
Or was that another trial?
so many fuck ups by the system.
but its even more incredulous to suggest Guede worked alone than it is to think that Knox was involved. Both articles itt thread are perfect examples of how ridiculously biased the media is on the subject.
Or care to write about it here?
things of note...
On the knife evidence in particular the defence's argument was essentially that Exhibit 36's blade was much too big to cause those wounds, because knife wounds more or less correspond to the size of the blade. The court found that if this were true, then many knives were used, some as small as 1.5 cm, and anyway since there was no bruising from the hilt of the knife we know that it was not used to its full capability. Pretty sure there was Kirckers DNA on the bf's knife but they claimed contamination.
The crime scene had been cleaned. Rudy could not have done the clean up since he was at a club freaking out and trying to decide what to do. At a minimum this establishes that someone other than Rudy was involved. The person doing the clean up spent considerable effort to remove footsteps that went from Meredith's room to Amanda's and the bathroom where someone had cleaned up from a very bloody event but left Rudy's bloody footprints untouched.
The nights events changed from being at a party to being at Raf's. Raf refused to admit he was with Amanda-- he initially claimed she wasn't there and then changed the story to he couldn't remember if they were together or not. The time he claims to be using his computer there was not activity and when he claims he was sleeping someone turned on his cellphone which he claims was his cat. They also called the police to report the B&E after the police were already present and further lied about their inability to knock down Meridith's door.
Amanda claims to have called Meridith concerned about her and that the phone rang and rang but that was also a lie as records show the call was 3s and just long enough to show she made it. Amanda knew enough that calls would be logged but not that their length were also recorded.
The staged break-in. Only someone who lived at the house or had access to the house would need to stage a break in. Rudy would have no reason to do this. There's a lot of evidence to show someone was trying to fake this but i cant remember it all.
Amanda made a call to her mother which both her and her mother changed stories on due to Amanda knowing info that she shouldnt have known according to her alibi.
Essentially it suggests that their motive in regards the murder of Meredith was down to the fact that they were high and they had been watching violent films and reading violent comic books.
"The consultants and forensic scientists have asserted that from the point of view of forensic science, it cannot be ruled out that the author of the injuries could have been a single attacker, because the bruises and the wounds from a pointed and cutting weapon are not in themselves incompatible with the action of a single person."
the way i feel though is that if she was innocent she did the best she possibly could to appear guilty and the prosecution were equally terrible in trying to prove guilt. I cant really speak with any certainty now without reading the whole thing again.
The defence probably just bunged a few brown envelopes the way of the judge or whoever...
there are only so many more times I can hear the term 'foxy knoxy'
Well, irrespective of what I think about the trial, and the case, this is the one thing I think that everyone that writes about this needs to remember:
THERE ARE TWO PEOPLE ON TRIAL. TWO. NOT JUST "FOXY KNOXY".
each to their own
She wont be extradited.
Not that I imagine she has a great desire to return to Europe ever in any case.
how much pressure the UK put on Obama if she is found guilty. It's so depressing that the glitz and hype of this has shadowed the sad fact that a British girl was murdered in cold blood and the killer(s) are still walking around freely. Meanwhile this fucking little tramp is raking it in with press and book deals, profiting off the fact that she clearly either did it and expects to get away with it, or knows who did it and is helping them get away with it. A girl is dead, catch and bring to justice whoever killed her and let that be the end of it.
Also, calling her a "fucking little tramp" isn't that classy a look, FYI
She'll probably do a Playboy shoot with bloody hand prints on her tits. I will upgrade to 'insufferable fucking little tramp-cunt' if it gets a bigger laugh, I guess.
The US hates to extradite people. Specifically in a case like this. I would imagine the US public think she's innocent, a poor American girl at the hands of a foreign country's barbaric justice system. I'm basing that on the fact it's exactly how WE react to one of our citizens being accused of dreadful crimes in other countries.
She's been tried and found innocent. There's no way the US is ever going to touch her again without evidence along the lines of her openly confessing on video.
Apt username/thread topic coming together.
to provide your 22 grand job as an alibi
Some things that just don't make sense. Meredith's door was locked prior to her body being found and when the police arrived, Knox told them that it wasn't at all unusual for her door to be locked because 'she even locks her door when she takes a shower'. Knox's other housemate returned and instantly started panicking when told of Meredith's locked door because she 'never locks it'.
Why did Knox lie about Meredith's locked door not being unusual? Cos she knew Meredith was dead inside and she wanted to delay the discovery of the body?
Maybe it was her intention to be framed for the murder because the idea of being wrongly convicted appealed to her?
and it explains everything that made her seem guilty.
Thanks everyone glad we could clear that up, bye.