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London is "A first-rate city with a second-rate country attached."
how do we fix the North-South divide?
The US has a huge wealth gap (actually, loads really) between the major urban sprawls of say LA comapred to Nevada, or the East Coast megalopolis of Boston, NYC with Philadelphia, Baltimore and D.C compared to the midwest?
but we'd probably just end up with a Salt Lake City.
cities like it in Europe or the world. Paris is one exception and London is probably only bettered by New York. The reason London is so damn good is because of the rest of Britain. Britain makes London and vice versa. There's a north-south type of divide in many big countries (Italy comes to mind). The same argument can be made for any major capital city (especially in Europe) and the country that it's in. In answer to the question: how do we fix the north-south divide? No idea. Many have tried to find a good answer since the end of the second world war.
I'd lead the charge myself if it votes yes to bomb the fuckers and turn them into slaves doing mundane admin tasks instead of whatever rammel they do now. It'd be like this: http://playvidya.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/drive2bme2bcloser_2bi2bwant2bto2bhit2bthem2bwith2bmy2bsword.png
manchesters next. Going to flood it then move you all to Middlesborough and make Joe your overlord
Bloody Londoner ;-)
Capital cities which are not the most prosperous
other than that, off the top of my head:
Wellington (citation needed)
i think it's partly because London's been a capital city and focal point for so long as the country England is now. hence why Paris got mentioned too - that's similar. Madrid's not been the capital of Spain as long, Berlin Germany, Italy Rome, Moscow Russia, all the same
but of recent times Bilbao has develoepd into a strong service industry, its got new a airport, the guggenheim etc. loads of money there.
I guess its how you measure prosperiety
Barcelona's is circa 30k euros, Bilbao's circa 26k, both above the spanish average comfortably obvs
but i don't much like GDP as an indicator of prosperity. what else to use though? growth? average salary?
by not having a command of Bilbao's GDP at his fingertips. Take pity on a fallen pedant
and forgetting about Wellington. dickheads.
dunno why i thought that
we don't notice the gleaming church of commerce in the west.
i just thought munich was a bigger deal or somethingm, or maybe i thought zurich was in germany or something
berlin's biggest though, so it's not as clear cut/different metrics etc
Once absolutely schooled a friend in a game of Topics knowing that
and the property market is basically only buoyant because there's still a huge gap between demand and supply and because there's been huge amounts of foreign money pouring in over the last five years. foreign investors now own over 50% of office space in the City.
but i think she hits it on the head at the end w/r/t centralisation of power with central government.
Lets make Carlisle the capital. What a laugh.
and it's like 5 mins away from the best bit of countryside in the UK. Never been to Byker so can't comment.
than business men who have never ventured outside of zone 1.
`Everywhere in the UK is shit apart from this one incredibly affluent bit I'm currently standing in, you guys`
It could then go on a never ending tour of the provinces, giving local schoolchildren the chance to see for themselves our many landmarks, museums and board game cafes. I assume we'd also have to do a fortnight in Qatar or something to get sponsorship. Whatever.
I stole it from a 1 off comedy show that I saw years ago, actually.
It was set in the future and Manchester and Liverpool were at civil war with each other. Liverpool was orbiting earth at the time.
Salford QUAYS is, but no-one in their right mind would consider Salford an ideal city
They get the tram from their (MANCHESTER) city centre apartment straight to Mediacity and think Castlefield is where everyone in Salford lives, not the endless high rise flats. Salford is fucking bleak
or have they implemented some mad new economic model?
I genuinely think no-one who works in Mediacity ventures out of Mediacity though, so (like the guy in the article who says London is mazin but has probably never left the City) they think that Salford is a beacon of creativity and affluence shining out of the grim north west
is a horrible souless, windy, depressing place.
Can assure you Trafford Park is a a million times worse just without any of the spaceage Blade Runner buildings.
it looks as youd expect an industrial estate to look.
With Salford Quays theyve given people the chance to redesign how people live/work/socialise and theyve fucked it up imo.
Actual, properly endless, soulless prefab buildings, shithole offices with gyms and Starbucks built in and wind, so much wind
Most definitely windy.
There's so much wind because the roads are all straight, just channeling it. I realise it was a joke...
i'd like the idea of being able to move to a different town in london because it's actually different, has different priorities etc. i guess brighton, maybe bristol, have this sort of feeling about them, idk.
also; ITT: Proper northerners, proper chips, proper shoulders.
The article reads like someone from the Beeb who has been forced to move to Salford Quays and has realised it's not a shining utopia
but dunno how that's a contradiction of what i've written?
It was a confused reply to Proper northerners, proper chips, proper shoulders
in honesty, i've just wanted to use ''Proper northerners, proper chips, proper shoulders'' for a while
Plenty of Londoners live in the same desperate, pigshit squalor as our northerly cousins. It's not all tycoons and fixie bikes, you shits.
Of course, if the article went on to address this in some way, I unreservedly apologise.
London is pretty great tbf.
Ironbridge is nice too.
Telford is an awful soul-less New Town though. With more dual carriageways than residents. See also: Redditch.
the first time I set foot in Telford I went to McDonald's and I asked for a McChicken Combo (this was in 2008) and girl at the counter replied with "You wanna waaah? You 'aving a giggle mate?" It was soul-crushing. Not sure what that story had to do with anything and what my point is, but I found Telford truly depressing.
Hi guys, I got here as soon as I could.
:: reads thread::
Pffft. Boring. FREEDOM FOR LLOEGYR!
::scuttles back to the swamp::
I'm gonna place the minimum bid and see what happens.