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TheComedian [Edit] [Delete] 56 replies 16:04 February 28th, 2013

A lot of people think that having children is a symbol of success. I guess it is in some ways. Do you think so too?

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soapy | 28 Feb '13, 16:07 | X | ^ This | Reply
successful reproductive organs on both sides- yes

succefully banging member of opposite sex- yes
successfully being at point in your life where it's a more attracticve optoin than termination - I guess, depending on your life priorities.

I don't think having kids makes you necessarily more successful per se thought.

PickledOeuf | 28 Feb '13, 16:08 | X | ^ This | Reply

msmonipenni this'd this
- GET OUT OF MY BRAIN
  
  Epimer @PickledOeuf | 28 Feb '13, 16:09 | X | ^ This | Reply
  
  PickledOeuf this'd this
  - look at us we are such cold and clinical scientists
    
    (I am not a scientist, i think we all know this.)
    
    PickledOeuf @Epimer | 28 Feb '13, 16:32 | X | ^ This | Reply
it's a sign of successfully working reproductive organs, sure

Epimer | 28 Feb '13, 16:08 | X | ^ This | Reply
If I'd helped produce a baby

I'd put it above making a tuna pie with no instructions, but just below completing icewind dale without ever saving

Songs_about_ducking | 28 Feb '13, 16:09 | X | ^ This | Reply
- that last one would be impossible once you got into the lizardman caves
  
  soapy @Songs_about_ducking | 28 Feb '13, 17:02 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - Im going to be honest
    
    I've never even baked a tuna pie either
    
    Songs_about_ducking @soapy | 28 Feb '13, 17:19 | X | ^ This | Reply
Similar/tangent

I got into a big discussion about people saying that giving birth was an achievement. I wasn't strictly saying it was/wasn't but just questioning the idea as really it is a biological function and to me rearing a child is worthy of more praise. Not that I don't think a woman doesn't deserve a "shit, well done" for the ordeal, just that plonking out a sprog isn't the thing to congratulate.

I'm not a shit btw, honest.

Pharyngeal | 28 Feb '13, 16:29 | X | ^ This | Reply
- yeah, you're a shit
  
  What ytou say is by and large true- it's a function that our bodies are designed to do, unlike, eg going into space. However, even until relatively recently a huge number of women (and infants) died in childbirth. It is a dangerous passtime, painful and hormonakly one of the most stressful things a woman (and by proxy he partner) can ever go through. You are really a bit of an arse if you can't fathom this.
  
  PickledOeuf @Pharyngeal | 28 Feb '13, 16:34 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - I can absolutely fathom that
    
    and have perhaps presented and my overall opinion, and the overall discussion, in far too simple a way.
    
    AH WELL.
    
    Pharyngeal @PickledOeuf | 28 Feb '13, 16:38 | X | ^ This | Reply
    - the plonking is immensely painful and sressful
      
      thankfully endorphons and the brian's ability to forget make it somethign that most people can cope with. But not everybody gets away ok. Do I have to tell the story again about my friend's twin exhaust pipe scenario after her fourth degree tear she sustained squeezed out number 3 was stitched up all wrong?
      
      PickledOeuf @Pharyngeal | 28 Feb '13, 16:41 | X | ^ This | Reply
      - YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO
        
        YOU FUCKING DIDNT HAVE TO
        
        oojimaflop @PickledOeuf | 28 Feb '13, 16:42 | X | ^ This | Reply
        
        PickledOeuf this'd this
      - The crux of the discussion was the emphasis placed on
        
        actually giving birth, over actually rearing the child well, and how the "you're so ace for having a child!" praise peters out and little is given for the rearing despite that being the absolute most important part of it all, as far as I can tell.
        
        And no, not everyone gets out OK and the discussion also focused on the potential that some (not I) may feel a caesarean is less of an achievement due to the intervention/the idea of at home natural birthing often seen as superior or the ideal situation etc... so my original comment is probably utterly shit status but it wasn't really that black and white and my opinion is not wholly that of the above and i'm not really sure why I put it across so bluntly, probably because I want to go home.
        
        I've not heard the story about your friend before but it sounds pretty horific and it all got sorted.
        
        Pharyngeal @PickledOeuf | 28 Feb '13, 16:47 | X | ^ This | Reply
        
        your point really needed this extra context. I'm with you now.
        
        PickledOeuf @Pharyngeal | 28 Feb '13, 16:49 | X | ^ This | Reply
        
        Ok that's good
        
        I should have put it all up front, but I am an idiot.
        
        Pharyngeal @PickledOeuf | 28 Feb '13, 16:50 | X | ^ This | Reply
- my gfs comments after pushing our 1st one out
  
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  I guess it's a bit like being a soldier... I mean .. they shove you out there and you have no choice but to dodge the bullets and return fire when you can and you end up covered in a bloody, sticky mess but after the fighting dies down you scrub up and return home and everyone treats you like a hero.
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  Body_In_The_Thames @Pharyngeal | 28 Feb '13, 16:36 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - :D Beautiful.
    
    oojimaflop @Body_In_The_Thames | 28 Feb '13, 16:43 | X | ^ This | Reply
    - one of the most profound things she's ever said
      
      Body_In_The_Thames @oojimaflop | 28 Feb '13, 16:46 | X | ^ This | Reply
      - Poetic
        
        I'll be using this quote in future.
        
        NoahVale @Body_In_The_Thames | 28 Feb '13, 17:02 | X | ^ This | Reply
Nope.

It'd be an insult to any couple who is biologically incapable of having children to think otherwise. In my view.

GetOffMyLawn | 28 Feb '13, 16:37 | X | ^ This | Reply

hedgehog and icouldwinarabbit this'd this
- Raising a child, however, is a different matter.
  
  GetOffMyLawn @GetOffMyLawn | 28 Feb '13, 16:39 | X | ^ This | Reply
  
  hedgehog this'd this
On relationship perspective, assuming all is going well

and it's all planned, you living together and having a 'family' as such, then the following applies:
f you have managed to maintain a successful relationship with someone you like over an extended period of time, and mutually reach a point where having children is deemed as a positive step forward, of course you are successful- in your personal life.
I don't think anyone on here would disagree that actually forming that relationship is one of the hardest things to do on a social scale.

sexy_girl | 28 Feb '13, 16:41 | X | ^ This | Reply
- why so many rules?
  
  why not just be the animal you are and enjoy it?
  
  Body_In_The_Thames @sexy_girl | 28 Feb '13, 16:43 | X | ^ This | Reply
- And to add a further slightly irrelevant angle to it
  
  -only successful if you both want to have children, which in this hypothetical situation is the case.
  Basically if you achieve what you want, you are successful. If you don't want that thing, or it is not of relevance to you than it can't be marked with any level of success.
  Just a personal achievement.
  
  sexy_girl @sexy_girl | 28 Feb '13, 16:44 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - *this is just a topic of personal achievement.
    
    sexy_girl @sexy_girl | 28 Feb '13, 16:46 | X | ^ This | Reply
Council estates aren't breeding grounds for success.

GayGuevara | 28 Feb '13, 16:43 | X | ^ This | Reply
- Tell that to Alan Sugar
  
  moker @GayGuevara | 28 Feb '13, 16:48 | X | ^ This | Reply
- A lot of people think..
  
  TheComedian @GayGuevara | 28 Feb '13, 17:07 | X | ^ This | Reply
no

being successful is a symbol of success

hedgehog | 28 Feb '13, 16:44 | X | ^ This | Reply
It's not a great achivement

It meant you have sex once.

Bringing them up without completely fucking them up is the achievement.

moker | 28 Feb '13, 16:44 | X | ^ This | Reply
- ^this
  
  They fuck you up, your mum and your dad
  
  NoahVale @moker | 28 Feb '13, 17:00 | X | ^ This | Reply
  
  moker this'd this
BROKEN (Britain)

GetOffMyLawn | 28 Feb '13, 16:47 | X | ^ This | Reply
something to put on your CV i guess

mac_daddy | 28 Feb '13, 16:47 | X | ^ This | Reply

hedgehog this'd this
hmmm well its not something that normally crosses peoples minds

creakyknees | 28 Feb '13, 17:04 | X | ^ This | Reply
- Tell that to facebook profile images..
  
  This isn't what I think by the way. I just think a lot of people think like this.
  
  TheComedian @creakyknees | 28 Feb '13, 17:10 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - I am proud of them
    
    but thats because they're great
    
    creakyknees @TheComedian | 28 Feb '13, 17:39 | X | ^ This | Reply
Actually culturally, in Africa it is a sign of wealth to have many children

which is why in tribes the king has many wives to produce many children.

msmonipenni | 28 Feb '13, 17:12 | X | ^ This | Reply
I'm choosing to believe it is

thinly veiled "wife is due on Saturday" post

the_ravens | 28 Feb '13, 17:18 | X | ^ This | Reply
- However, please feel free to hunt me down and shoot me
  
  if my facebook becomes nothing but baby photos. Particularly if my profile pic is changed. I hate that
  
  the_ravens @the_ravens | 28 Feb '13, 17:19 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - :)
    
    TheComedian @the_ravens | 28 Feb '13, 17:25 | X | ^ This | Reply
- Good luck pal
  
  Have a snifter of gas n air if you get chance: it's good stuff
  
  NoahVale @the_ravens | 28 Feb '13, 17:19 | X | ^ This | Reply
  
  TheComedian and pentargo this'd this
- oh my word, so soon!
  
  All the best for an easy delivery and safe arrival of mini_ravens xxx
  
  PickledOeuf @the_ravens | 28 Feb '13, 17:21 | X | ^ This | Reply
  
  TheComedian and Body_In_The_Thames this'd this
Not really

I think general happiness with your life is a sing of success. It all depends on whether you want kids or not. Personal goals and that.

withakay | 28 Feb '13, 17:25 | X | ^ This | Reply
literally about half an hour ago i was contemplating my life by the bus stop, as you do, and i thought

god im so glad i dont have kids, what a strain they would be. At least i can go and do stuff without any actual proper responsibility hanging round my neck...literally.

fappable | 28 Feb '13, 17:26 | X | ^ This | Reply
- just realised this sounds like a really shit rap
  
  fappable @fappable | 28 Feb '13, 17:26 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - YO IM A DA BUS STOP AND I FINK TO MYSELF
    
    I DONT WANT NO KIDZ, THAT SHIT AINT GOOD FOR MA HEALTH
    DONT WANT DA LITTLE KIDDIES HANGIN' ROUND MA NECK
    I'D RATHER HAVE MA BLING YO, YEAH CHECK CHECK.
    I CHECK THE TIME TABLE
    WHERE MA FREAKIN' BUS AT
    SO GLAD I CAN TRAVEL WITH OUT A RUGRAT.
    PEAAAACE.
    
    fappable @fappable | 28 Feb '13, 17:32 | X | ^ This | Reply
No. Don't be a tool.

Ricky_Ronco | 28 Feb '13, 17:26 | X | ^ This | Reply
- Read what I said again.
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoWMmZEoT84
  
  TheComedian @Ricky_Ronco | 28 Feb '13, 17:29 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - you said
    
    A lot of people think that having children is a symbol of success. I guess it is in some ways. Do you think so too?
    
    'I guess it is in some ways'
    
    So you are agreeing to a certain degree yes ?
    
    Ricky_Ronco @TheComedian | 28 Feb '13, 17:33 | X | ^ This | Reply
    - well, if you life is a failure why would you think of bringing children into that?
      
      That's pretty much the only point I agree with.
      
      TheComedian @Ricky_Ronco | 28 Feb '13, 17:36 | X | ^ This | Reply
      - what do you class as failure ?
        
        Ricky_Ronco @TheComedian | 28 Feb '13, 17:44 | X | ^ This | Reply
        
        I mean from the pool perspective rather then mine
        
        TheComedian @Ricky_Ronco | 28 Feb '13, 18:03 | X | ^ This | Reply
        
        So I guess that would be a mixture of finance, stability & empathy.
        
        TheComedian @TheComedian | 28 Feb '13, 18:04 | X | ^ This | Reply
        
        I think you think too much. I'm going back to the mop thread.
        
        Ricky_Ronco @TheComedian | 28 Feb '13, 18:09 | X | ^ This | Reply
I guess it proves that they've got laid at least once?

fullerov | 28 Feb '13, 17:47 | X | ^ This | Reply

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