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the public library service
It's so hysterically cuntish I can't think of a single sensible thing to say about it.
He'd never have to sell a book again.
Instead of an extra-extra-large yacht
rocking backwards and forwards, laughing hysterically.
there's no one here COS OF GOOD OL' TERRY DEARY
Libraries are putting bookshops out of business?
With increasing rental prices in city centres AND the huge rise in public libraries (150 years ago) I don't understand why book shops haven't gone under
and a twat
just him and his empire of reductive faux-history
certainly the case when i was at school in the '90s. very much a gateway drug.
that Horrible Histories has done more to get kids interested in reading and learning for themselves than anything written by someone other than Terry Pratchett or JK Rowling
read a load of them myself, was diverted but would still say that even for kids' books they gloss over a *lot*, can't have it both ways though can we
but anyone who's visited a council library in the last few years would have to agree with him. People are just precious about the educational element, aren't they, maybe rightly so. They're no more necessary than Blockbusters now, though. People can afford books because online retailers sell them cheaply. Even independent bookshops sell cheap titles to compete, and most of the people who libraries were initially aimed at i guess - kids, low paid people, students, have devices to enable them to download and read most books. I haven't read the whole piece in the link, but i honestly think he's got a valid point.
Ergo, fine to chip in.
You're welcome, boss.
which directly contradicts Terry Deary's point.
But if enough people were using libraries they wouldn't be closing down, would they?
Essentially, me and Tezza are saying the same thing...just you've misunderstood a bit.
they're closing them down because they can't afford to pay the bills, mate. not because people aren't interested.
almost a fifth of the population (depending how you measure it)
that's in newcastle
i used to be one of the library's people for digital literacy in the city
More like 0.1% of the UK total.
the national number is probably like a fifth or sixth of total population too but i havent seen a stat for awhile
You can get it for £5 a month, and in any case, access to the internet is a luxuary, just like a contract phone is or Sky. I don't think it's a service that councils paritularly need to provide. Libraries are dated and in many cases unecessary when you can buy books (and other things they rent, like music and films) for pennies, or even for free. Granted, this isn't exactly the point Tez was making, but still.
I genuinely think it's a dated service, and nowadays i don't think free access to books is completely vital. Why does this feel like i'm trolling for having a slightly different opinion on something?
but this time mine is different to yours, I do think people should have access to books & the internet and I do think the council should provide this.
and as much as some people say you're trolling your not, people can have different opinions on things.. its fine...
generous in this case tbh
he's been more honest on how informed he is than most people spouting shite on DiS are :)
we got 30 kids every tuesday and between 12-15 on a friday for storytime/reading sessions
those kids probably won't go to anything like that once the library shuts and a lot of those parents came because they didn't think they could afford things like books (certainly not at the rate the kids were starting to go through them)
aren't kids reading books in schools nowadays?
not as much as they used to in a storytime/free reading sense, what with schools being pressured into meeting targets etc there isn't always time for it (or so my teacher friends complain on facebook(
(and it's doubtful whether lots of schools would have a decent selection compared with a mid-sized public library, anyway)
and plenty don't. Why would hard pressed schools spend cash on library staff and book stock when they don't have too? So a kid going through school could have no more exposure to books than the two a year set in English class, and I knew plenty of kids at my school who didn't even read those.
Councils are required by law (the 1964 public libraries and museum act) to provide a 'comprehensive and efficient' service.
And now that some benefits and jobs can only be applied for online, and there are plenty of people who don't have access to the internet at home, libraries are more important than ever - that's not even mentioning the numerous other roles they play in community life.
go to the Job Centre to apply online. All now have some sort of access to computers.
Honestly think we have to get out of this mindset that web access is a vital part of everyday life.
but if they are being driven toward a life of online use, as they are, then that should be provided for
are pushing things like registering childrens school places as default online services as well.
which kind of summed up why it's utterly shit that many are closing. It interviewed lots of people in a small village who used the library (which is now closed) mainly for the internet to look and apply for jobs. Once the library closed, they had to pay £4.50 EACH WAY for the bus to the next nearest library to use the internet there. The job centre is also a £4.50 EACH WAY bus journey away.
Break it down for yourself and about 1 person in 10 wants access but doesn't have it.
I think you might be the one who's misunderstood a bit. Unless this is idle trolling, in which case: well done, have a biscuit.
There's a common theme to both of our arguments.
Loved his books as a youngster; can't he be a really nice sensible person as well, please?
Of course there is a place for public libraries. I just wish some were used more.
Local authorities hollow out the library service (due to many factors - cuts from central government, poor management, ideological reasons) so people are given less incentive to use them - fewer people use them, so local authorities use that as an excuse to hollow out the service.
but that the people who use them are basically looters