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It's the pits, right?
i bought a bedframe and a sofa off my boss at the weekend for oxford so i went to his house. it's big and totally fucking empty. sparse as hell. i'd drink a bottle of whiskey and cry myself to sleep every night if that was my life. he's actually a really nice guy is the weird thing. he should go on some dates or something.
it's not so much here - I'm good at just getting up and leaving generally. But I used to work at a magazine where the boss was insane. He wouldn't even consider leaving until 9.30, and if you went to leave before that he'd say shit like 'you used to have potential' :'(
I always do with my boss now and he appreciates it. If my gym class is at 6pm, I just mention it advance that I will be leaving at 5pm. The point is employers will take the piss...if you let them. It's about compromise - if I have an important call with someone in America eight hours away then I could be taking a call at midnight.
Wasn't just the bosses either, it was a whole macho 'got to be there until the end' culture, people would just sit at their desks doing fuck all waiting for everyone else to leave because they knew if they left first they wouldn't be as hardcore as everyone else. Everyone boasting about how many hours they'd put in at evening meetings/weekend events without claiming the lieu time. Feeling guilty for leaving at 6pm even when I had a perfectly good reason. So much better here.
I'd kill to work in a place where the boss is guilting people into staying past 10am.
but when I worked at a private sector company, my boss would be like *urgh, I was here til 2am last night* and I had no idea how to respond to that. There was absolutely no need for her to have done that!
I will do my hours and that's that. In the US people were always one-upping each other on how many hours they worked. One guy boasted he'd done 56 hours in a week last week, and was on course to do the same again. I then said that "he needed to work better" because he wasn't getting everything he needed to do in his normal time, and as such wasn't very good at his job.
This didn't go down too well.
I'll stay late if I really HAVE to and sometimes I do....but through no fault of my own. If I've not got anything urgent that needs doing after 5:30, I'm outta there!
The prevalence of this in my old academic field (notoriously worse than other sciences or even sub-areas of the same science) is largely what drove me away.
That, and the lack of (well-paid) jobs. Bourbon and sweeties don't pay for themselves, you know.
every goddamn day
and he leaves at 16:45 : )
We work late if we have to but that's rare. I'm not hanging around to prove something to anyone though. I've been in places like this before. One guy used to deliberately send emails at one or two in the morning and was praised for his work ethic. I just thought he was a twat. He had a young family too. If I had a family you wouldn't catch me staying late. My dad worked 12 hour shifts for the overtime and said he regretted not seeing my sister and I grow up.
What confuses me is why people who are salaried- at an average level- do it.
I'm quite glad I chose a pretty laid-back profession to work in.
thanks niki >:-(
If it helps, I have kind of low job satisfaction at the moment. So swings and roundabouts.
this job works me hard but i DO actually like it
to this. A bit. But anyway, SUBTHREAD!!
Does anyone else really struggle to call in sick to work? Last 2 days the alarm has gone off, I've felt like shit and decided I'll stay home only to haul myself out of bed and go to work anyway. In just over a year here I've missed one day through illness and even then I got up after a night of pain, started getting ready and relented only when I passed out and vomited over myself in the shower. I've taken about 3 sick days in the last 4 or 5 years altogether, all similar circumstances.
It's definitely me and not a ridiculously demanding workplace or manager (although I did have that in my last job). Some kind of half Protestant work ethic, half Catholic guilt, half being self important enough to think anyone will care if I'm not in thing.
Am I alone? I'm alone.
I am wracked with guilt if I think about calling in sick, and then just don't do it.
Only mildly sick
but I struggle, even if I'm really ill. The only time I've done it this year was when I had tonsillitis. The first time I had it, I got my laptop and worked from home for 4 days but it came back a week later because I hadn't rested properly. I took 2 days off to properly rest, without working, and it hasn't come back since.
I just feel bad and feel like they need me but in reality, they would drop me in a heartbeat if they had to.
...was 2005. A combination of being self-employed and not a sickly child ftw.
especially project-based jobs with big deadlines, which mean that people sometimes have to stay late, but if it becomes a regular thing for a sizeable proportion of staff then it's a failing of management. They've either not got their resourcing wrong or their fee wrong. If people leave having done their contracted hours then that demonstrates good management, not slackness.
Fortunately I've never really worked in an office where a competitive culture of late-working has existed.
I did go through a period of working stupid hours due to poor management - I was effectively dropped in it and had to cover a project on my own, with no support, whilst I was also on secondment to another company, due to the fact that the initial fee bid was too low. I went through an 18 month period of working 100 hour weeks, but unfortunately it coincided with the economic downturn and I would never have been able to find another job had I left.
some people in my office don't come in for days at a time
doing a phd is awesome
Then I'm not staying. See ya later.
Point still stands.
I do my hours and that's it. If I do stay late, even 30 mins, that shit is getting an overtime request form.
but between DiS's inability to speech mark properly and me not actually caring, it just wasn't going to happen
Anyone here had the opposite, in the sense that you come in to a new job and the team you are managing have developed a fucked up culture of presenteeism? - I work 10-6, that's my lot ... actively have to tell them to go home, and yet they still don't .... not sure what to do about to be honest
I have never been here past half six, even if I've got shit to do and am meeting someone later.
It's a bit sad. He lets everyone else leave early though.
but instead of staying late he just takes us all to the pub early. Sucks to be you.
the old place i worked the guy had a beer fridge, so he'd justify you working because 'oh hey it's cool guys, we can have a drink while we work!'
My boss gets grief from the trouble and strife if he goes to the pub after work, so we get to go to the pub at 4.30 so he can go home at a normal time. It's ace/quite sad.
I am envious.
But it was for non-related work reasons.