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1-4 please, and the three teams to go down...
RELLIES: QPR, Reading, Wagons
But swap Wigan with QPR
* City & Utd three points max swing either way, Chelsea & Arsenal 10 points behind min.
Relegated: Wagons, Soton, Wigan
Relegated: QPR, Soton, Reading. Wigan know how to stay up, and Wagons will never go down. I just can't see it.
Very negative team.
thats ok then.
bye now, have a nice day.
it's nothing personal, sorry.
Based on watching Match of the Day, I think Fulham will be dragged into the relegation battle, is what I should have said.
Fulham aren't bad, and Mr Potato Head knows what he's on about. Unlike you.
that blank post would've destroyed him too
What on earth are you talking about? Jol sets us up to attack, attack no matter what defensive cost. And unfortunately that's come at quite a defensive cost this year. We're as leaky as an indie bedwetter's bed.
bottom 3: 2 yo-yo teams and 1 surprise 'big club'
5-16: 2 plucky teams who play good football, some shit defensive teams, 3 teams that always come 10th or thereabouts, 2 teams that escape relegation despite being completely shit. and spurs.
Relegated Southampton, Reading and Villa
Villa, Reading and QPR to go down
Which almost by default means Reading, Villa and Wigan. It's just I can't imagine in my mind Wigan being relegated.
reading, villa, QPR
1. Man U
2. Man C
and how many were jumping on the opportunity to write 'Wagons'?
but so were Norwich and Lambert seemed like he knew how to polish a turd. There's a weird sort of momentum to relegation though, they don't seem to have the touch of death on them yet.
That does not exist at Villa
of referring to Wagons as 'Villa'.
2) Man Utd
3) Man City
Going down: QPR, Reading, Villa
but then again I guess you all thought that last year.
Tiny bants-swerving broken heart says
Reading and QPR are going down. I'm gonna say with Wigan.
1. utd - think they'll hang on this season
18: I don't think it'll be any of the current bottom 6. I have a feeling that one of the others - possibly west ham, maybe norwich - is going to go into freefall. Like Hull did a few seasons ago.
Solid manager, solid squad, hard to beat, defence not leaky (except for the first week of the season), already got significant points on the table.
Newcastle are looking like that team at the moment, so maybe them
QPR to escape as Remy's always wanted to be a Hoop since he played as them on FIFA or something, and M'Vila has fully redevoted himself to the footballing cause
I can not wait to see the Chronicle the next day
fully expect you to implode on the pitch and at the bank, leaving him to join Arsenal (or us) in the summer for nothing
'idden cost of 'arry
Either that or Norwich are going to get sucked down - their away form's a game away from being as awful as ours
If Villa somehow sort themselves out, then Wigan or West Ham for the other relegation spot. Hammers look in freefall at the moment
9. West Brom
16. West Ham
Southampton are sitting on some quality talent - 2 future England full-backs + 2 of the finest midfielders in the bottom half of the table. Villa despite their desperate woes will somehow survive.
Wigan are due... ha, every year the same. Just lost Ramis for the rest of the season. That'll hurt.
Reading, too little too late.
QPR need to crash and burn. Plus, it's Harry.
Ok, it's kind obvvious who I support.
They've got a lot of young, inexperienced players, no money to spend and a manager determined to spaff what little he does get on League One players
You look at them now and how they've done this season and you think 'yup, this isn't gonna happen for them'. Then you remember that every fucking cunt in the world has said that at some point and yet here they are.
I think Arsenal look decent for fourth. Game in hand, potentially not far off the pace and far superior goal difference compared to Spurs and Everton. Not saying it's nailed on, but based on STATS they look stronger.
*curses Arsenal to first 7th place finish in years*
Oops. Still, much fucking better position to be in than at the same point last season.
It won't start just yet- a victory over Chelsea this week will be lauded as the inspiration they need, but they'll go on to take 2 points from their next 4 games or something. Then Arsene will slam the overdrive button and pow, minimum 4th place.
and pretend use it as a narrative template for every season ever. Looking forward to Chelsea slumping into 6th place and winning the Champions League.
Playing around with this is fun, it surprises me how little I remember :/
Maybe that means conversely this is the season where they stop defying gravity, I dunno. They've played well all year long though, and this is before their usual sprint to the finish line.
Similarly Arsenal are always terrible at this time of year. Mid-Feb is where the upward curve of "over-puffed expectations for next season" on the Arsene graph begins, and they should have fourth spot wrapped up by May. As ever the interesting scrap (only interesting in and of itself of course because none of them can be arsed with the UEFA at all) will be between Everton, Liverpool and Spurs for fifth and sixth.
The whole aim of this season is to get to the last day safe and watch Harry go down at the death in a last minute twist.
Superior squad, what happened last season, much less reliant on one or two key players, other factors. If City wouldn't have got complacent and wrapped the van Persie signing up quickly they'd have probably already had it half-won. He's been the difference between United being well in with a shout and also-rans, though it's ridiculous to say they'd have been any lower than 2nd/3rd, Rooney would've just stepped up, but they'd have been well back on City.
From what i've seen, and it's not a lot, just Match of the Day now and then, one of their live league games, they've been playing at about 30% of their max. United, though the table shows they've been vulnerable at the back with Evans in the side instead of Vidic, probably about 75%.
Dunno. Might be wrong. Maybe things will just carry on and United will breeze it by 10-15 points, or...their arses might go again when Mancini starts laying the mind games on, who knows. Think most of us would say City are the stronger of the two sides, but title hangover early doors might cost them.
Champions League: United
FA Cup: Spurs
League Cup: Chelsea
To be honest, talking as a football fan, not a fan of any particular billionaireball club, i'm already looking forward to next season. This season was never going to live up to last year, and the Euros + Olympics overkill didn't help. Think Mourinho will be back at Chelsea next year, anticipate United to finally find a buyer for Rooney, and City to bring in the couple of world class players they should have last summer, plus Liverpool will be stronger, and Laudrup will've made Arsenal sexy again.
1. man united
2. man city
to go down
18. wagons villa
can somehow see qpr sneaking (or should that be $neaking?) their way out of trouble.
All of yous predicting that Arsenal will finish 4th, is this because you have more faith than me, because 'that's what always happens', or because it's Spurs so they're bound to fuck it up?
For the record;
4 Spurs (assuming we don't sign anyone useful this month)
Whatever you've been prattling to yourself about in the corner doesn't come into it.
And after I put City above United.
position 1 seems sewn up; positions 19 and 20 seemdestined to be occupied by QPR and Reading. What about the rest? Particularly the last relegation slot and the two champions' league slots not occupied by the manchester clubs.
3) Spurs, 4) Arsenal
18) someone who would be a slight shock, maybe Norwich.
Promoted: 1) Cardiff, 2) Watford, 3) someone unexpected, like Bolton
Champions League: Bayern
Europa League: Benfica
I'm not really into betting but I looked up the odds for Norwich going down and it's something like 14-1. Given that they've only won once in the past 13 league games, I thought that was fairly generous.
alarm bells would've started ringing when we announced the future purchase of a very decent, club record signing whilst two wins off the drop.
3 - Spurs
4 - Arsenal
18 - Sunderland
1 - Cardiff
2 - Hull
Playoffs - Brighton
Cup - City
Champions League - Barca
Europa League - Spurs
quite a lot of our performances this season have been worthy or relegation.
probably spurs third, us fourth. Villa to go down.
Not sure we're favourites for top 4 are we? Certainly in with more of a chance than I expected/we deserve, but still a fair bit to do
given that chelsea and spurs have to play each other. That, coupled with the easier run-in, means we're probably favourites. Haven't looked at any betting sites or anything though.
Flashbacks of seasons past where we'd be 2 points behind United at this stage, eyeing an 'easy run-in' and then immediately embark on a 4 game winless streak including losses to Hull or Middlesborough
just think most neutrals would put us in there
Could make a run up the table. I've generously given Adkins one further point...
FA Cup: Chelsea
Promotion: Cardiff, Watford, Palace
Reading (A), West Ham (H). Swans (A), West Brom (H), Spurs (A), Sunderland (A), Stoke (H).
and some really good performances too.
1. Manchester United - what a stroke of luck, eh?
2. Manchester City
5. Tottenham Hotspur
19. Queens Park Rangers
CL: Real Madrid
FA Cup: Wigan Athletic
relegated : 18th: Sunderland 19th: QPR 20th: Reading
Europa League: Lazio or Benfica
Champions League: Madrid
and Wigan down.
Rafa or just being in 3 comps with a small squad? think they should really be strolling to 3rd regardless...
They're spreading themselves way too thinly especially when they've got a trip to Russia to contend with as well, also why the fuck would Benitez give a shit about finishing fourth? A couple of trophies on his CV would be much better for him.
I think failing to qualify for the Champion's League with as big/rich a club as Chelsea would probably do his reputation just as much harm as winning a couple of cups would do it good.
He'll do what he's no doubt been told to do by the board- try to win every game and achieve all three objectives. It'll be exactly that approach that leaves us and him completely empty handed.
A few people are only now realising but their fixture nightmare has been easily forseen since November. A club of Chelsea's resources should be safely top 4 but the same was true last season.
We might make it but it won't be even slightly comfortable. Not at all confident we'll get the results but we might get lucky with how other teams do.
all been disastrously shit at points throughout the season.