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this is already my favourite ever film :D
Up's amazing. Saw it in 3D at the cinema the week it came out. So good.
Wall-E's still the best though.
didn't even nearly cry.
wall-e though... easily pixar's best film
you're still posting on DiS? "Squirrel" is spot on.
I had no-one around to glance at or anything.
Everything about it is perfectly judged without ever seeming affected.
wit and heart abound, and it's never contrived or pandering even in the slightest.
(he baddie and his defeat is a bit underdeveloped), but it's not far off.
they had a load of options and were really struggling with what might have been better. There are out takes of alternate endings and everything, it's fascinating watching the writers have a crisis of conscience.
I know that mAkes it a good film, because it had a profound effect, but I found the effect too much sometimes. For me (unbelievably soft, despite what I might portray on here.) still one of my favourite films, but... Argh.
Doug :D and the alpha with the malfunctioning chipmunk voice. and Kevin's antics when he first appears.
the emotional core of Carl and Ellie's life took care of me completely. the part near the end was as profoundly moving as anything I've seen.
they did a wonderful job of colouring the characters in, in such a short time. the way C & E were portrayed as children was everything; you just fall for them immediately, and just like that, you've seen their whole life. and the way the film carries on...
didn't buy Carl's character arc at all. not enough jokes...
you didn't buy it because he didn't make enough jokes?
I thought the grouchy humour was pitch perfect. making him more jokey would have been forced and broken the emotional spell.
not enough jokes was my second criticism of the film.
Character arc-wise I wasn't convinced. Just at that part of the film where typically the 'hero' comes into his own, this old man just becomes someone completely different just so the plot can move on to where it needs to.
One funny bit tho, where he imagines dropping him off the rope
the stuff that happened!
plus the talking dogs slayed me. I was laughing like a five year-old watching...a talking dog.
like it was for 5 year olds
just a 6/10. labmonkeys got it
A psychopath or a sociopath. I'm too tired to decide which.
not enough jokes...
I mean, who's ever heard of a talking dog?
And that ostrich-type thing? COME ON!
6/10 (Can't even remember what happened at the end...old man dies, dog euthanised, kid goes on to make balloon animals for a living?)
`The boring stuff is the stuff I remember the most...` - that line broke me when I first saw it.
It's a very moving piece of cinema, but McCarthy's other work is just as affecting and in a more `real` way. Not a criticism of Up in the slightest, it's just that people don't tend to attach balloons to their houses and float away etc...
The Station Agent
^ If you like Up, they are all essential, essential films. Although I'd expect most of you to have seen at least a couple of them.
I think McCarthy gets better with every film. Didn't seem to get the praise of his others but I think Win Win's his best work so far myself.
a quick blurb for each, perhaps?
...i.e. exploring the relationship and subsequent bond between 2 seemingly mismatched and different individuals.
The Station Agent is about a misanthropic midget who loses his job when his boss dies, but inherits his old house in a former railway station agent's quarters. He tries to live a life of seclusion but a couple of other people who live and work around there try to be his friend at all costs...
The Visitor is about a misanthropic (again!) widower academic who has to go to New York to present a paper he has a partial credit on... Upon returning to the flat he owns there, he finds an immigrant couple squatting in it and, in spite of initially wanting to throw them out, lets them stay and forms a friendship with them.
Win Win is about a lawyer who also manages a high school wrestling team. Both his business and team are failing, until he takes in a runaway kid (the grandson of the deceased in a case he is working on) which helps to solve his financial problems and, also he's shit hot at wrestling.
The actual synopses (sp?) of these films don't sound that interesting to be honest - but they're all stunning.
Also, what the heck, he's the sleazy journalist guy from the wire?
something more to go off than names, so much appreciated. I'll check them out ASAP.
All 3 films will restore your faith in humanity...
The music is a work of genius
But i spent about half of it in this uncanny valley of feeling like it was a bit silly, or unrealistic? I know that sounds stupid, but it starts off absolutely grounded in reality, then suddenly the guy just flies his house away on balloons. It was only sometime after the talking dogs appeared that i thought, oh right, it's just a kids film, they're not even trying to make sense. So i shouldn't mind that this doddery old man with a walking stick is suddenly ziplining around and scampering up blimps.
I also don't agree with the comments about it not being contrived, thought it felt borderline manipulative at times.
I still thought it was a great film though, not trying to go against the grain here.
I don't know what i was thinking.
it just drifts off into bs-land once the house sets off. Like, where did the balloons even come from? Are we to belueve that the old man blew them all up with a large helium tank overnight? And if so, where did he hide them? Because they just appear from behind the house, how was he holding them down? He'd need a significant amoutn of weights, enough for it to be considerably heavier than his house (because you'll remember a lot of the balloons got popped along the way and the house was still floating) so where did they come from? The old man would have had to have lifted them there by hand over the course of probably years, so where's the mention of that in the story? How come he's not known as old man rubble or something. Stupid childish nonsense is what it was. Totally unbelievable set up. And did you see the size of the old man's face compared to the chinese kid? So out of proportion that it makes the whole dynamic ridiculous, how can you take this carp seriously?
But did I? Did I Theo????
I remember noticing when I watched it again recently.
shit film you see
didn't find it sad, gets a bit drawn out in the middle but some nice gags and a fun family watch.
On the potato I scale I award it a croquette.
then you are a git.
It's pretty sad, I reckon.
who then spend their whole animated lives together very much in love.
That's fairly happy stuff.
are incredibly sad.
what a delightful optimist you are.
Sure the miscarriage and death bits are sad but why concentrate on that when the rest is quite a happy story. Why man why?
They're just sad and then it passes and gets well good. Everything about that first bit makes me very very sad. Have you seen Marley & Me? Now THATS a film that if you don't cry at it, you're dead inside.
While I can see your point about them having a happy life, the whole section is presented in a way that is sad. We condense their lives to focus on the two saddest points of their lives together with as much emphasis of all the other time they spend together.
On top of that, the 'happy time' they spend together is tempered by concentrating on their desire to take a trip that they can never afford to take.
To take away from the opening that overall they were happy is interesting, but kind of like taking the 'drinking problem' bits of Airplane! deadpan literal.
The husbands problem is he looks back and only really sees the shortcomings and the might-have-beens. Partly because he lived much of his life for her aspirations.
That's kinda what the film ended up being about - he only learns his 'lesson' when he finally abandons the house and her dream, and has his own adventure.
I mean if you want an even more overwrought analogy he spends much of the film literally tethered to the house, dragging it behind him like a ball and chain.
But at no point in the opening sequence did I feel like she lived a sad life. I like to think if given the chance they'd do it all again. People blubbed watching it 'cos they saw a cute and likeable character dying in a Pixar movie, and they went in expecting to see a few talking animals and a romp.
Thought I was gonna love it but it was boring :(
wasn't even touched by the ealry 'sad' bit. It;s kinda nicely done but it all gets a bit silly as soon as it's in the present with the talking animals.
I liked wall-e but can't bring myself to watch it again. great cartoons: arthur christmas, the iron giant, jojo in the stars, maybe a few disney ones. I might watch the iron giant and fantasia tonight
you sound surprised
it isn't amazing/touching because of the silliness. The same as wall-e. There is art in the beginning, which is what people remember, but then for the sake of it being an entertaining kids movie there is just the standard stuff for the rest.
The image of the house with the balloons is a strong one though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY8ODmqCJDc she's pretty famous/printed in a few books
the enthusiasm for the world that the club scout has is the same as the grumpy old man's when he was a child but has since had the world make him a cynical old man.
and WALL-E showed a world where man has become overly dependant on machines and have become lazy and disconnected from the world that surrounds them. The are still meanings and artful direction in these films it's just the is lots of other stuff going on around the heart of the plot, which is a sign of good writing.
The only thing in the world that makes Carl excited is seeing his childhood hero.
really nice metaphor.
First 30 mins of both these films =tops. Rest= nots
that is the worst possible response anyone can give
and I'd argue it's artistically great