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but don't think it works.
Probably our worst home result in a few decades, but have to begrudgingly credit QPR for a very solid performance. Fair play to SWP too- some people get a bee in their bonnet when players don't celebrate against former clubs but I think it's a nice, inoffensive gesture in a game often low on them.
You can't rest three first-choice players when another three are out through injury already. Not against anyone in the league. It's disrespectful and we paid for it.
Either that or you're about to give us 20 million quid for a perma-crocked but brilliant RB.
It's a concern, tbh.
He's also our best option at RB despite Zabaleta being all kinds of brilliant.
have a bit of a thing for RBs and have apparently courted him before, I wouldn't be surprised if there was something more to his attendance last night. But then again, given he's pretty good, already plays for a team in far better shape than us and (despite what I said above) 'footballer goes to football match' isn't really that much of a bold, revealing move, I'd not be surprised if a potential move is never mentioned again.
In summary, I've lost the capacity to be surprised.
Move not starting with Hazard and taking off Oscar for Mata sooner.
Marin was lucky to still be on the pitch after his challenge. He played well apart from that though.
Except for the important ones, obviously.
He used to play CB too sometimes I recall. Maybe he's the dreaded 'utility player'?
But he's better than Chelsea's first choice RB assuming Ivanovic stays at CB and probably a better option at CB than Luiz and Cahill. He really is great despite the bizarre media spun narrative that he was rubbish last year and got dropped. City fans would genuinely be gutted to lose him and for Chelsea to get him which should tell you something.
He got booed off against Liverpool and he's generally been pretty shite for us. To finally scored (FIFTY FOUR GAMES without a goal) in such circumstances but still managing to not celebratem, fair play son
One of his key problems at Liverpool was his lack of respect shown to perceivably inferior opposition. Too many times he'd rest big players against smaller teams and they'd pull our pants down as a result.
Shame to see his stupifying arrogance on the matter still persists.
Maybe just tactical naivety.
Newcastle 1-2 Everton
Sunderland 0-3 Liverpool
Chelsea 0-1 (ONE) QPR
Not entirely sure I'm happy about this if so.
Sure the next few games will let us know one way or another. Suarez still doesn't really look like a natural goalscorer to me but his touch and ability to run with the ball is vaguely amazing. Henderson played well too it seemed?
Well played Everyon too. Been a bit unlucky not to have a few more points on the board this season. Top 4 might happen. Somehow doubt it though.
Great against teams who don't do their homework, but not against those that know what they're doing. Liverpool have had a run of games against the poorer teams (which included a loss to Wagons Villa), but have got away games against Arsenal, Man Utd and Man City in the next month. I'd be happy with two points out of those.
Say no more.
All three goals were gifted by a wide open Sunderland. There was some lovely passing between Gerrard, Suarez and Sterling though, from the looks of the highlights. Are they still paying Sterling in hot air and Freddos? Someone should steal him if so.
Watching MOTD, Sterling scored, jumped on Suarez, wrapped his legs sexily around him combined with the commentators sexy voice *Nice finish!*
That was an inept performance by a ludicrously and unnecessarily weakened team. What was most galling was the reluctance of the manager to do anything about it. I think the highlight for me was Torres desperately running away from the penalty area because otherwise he was going to be played clean through.
QPR got more than they bargained for and good luck to them - but they'll have to strengthen in January or they'll be down for sure.
who can beat Torres over 5 yards. Fernando should count himself lucky that Lonesome George popped his clogs last year.
There was a palpable change in atmosphere where I sit when the team was announced. I know QPR have been a bit of a joke to many, but they've run decent teams close a few times this year. To rest Mata, Hazard and Cole while Cech, Terry and Mikel were already ruled out (and with likely more open games against Southampton and Swansea coming up- surely more obvious opportunities to rest your more creative players) and give a debut to an almost terminally not ready Marin ... Let's just say I'm almost looking forward to hearing how Benitez-friendly pundits explain it away.
Get DJ back from loan, ship the completely uninterested Cisse off. Key priorities are a striker and a cb. Just like it was in the summer, when Hughes decided instead to bring in 2 number one GKs, a million central midfielders and Jose fucking Bosingwa
A question of sport before MOTD? never have I been so angry to see A question of sport come up on the tv screen, and it usually makes me very angry anyway by being sososososo shit.
I tuned in to rewatch us beat Chelsea and had to see Matt Dawson's cunt face
WHO ACTUALLY STILL WATCHES IT?!?!?
That sad laugh they all do when something shit happens
I put £2 on QPR to win on Betfair at 15s pre match, and cashed out for £4 profit about 7 minutes before the goal
how Marin didn't get sent off last night?
Not fair or right, but that's how.
who sent off Shaun Derry for Ashley Young's dive last season too. Weapon.
that going to ten men would have helped Chelsea last night
but they did a fairly good job of not charging at Luiz's come-hither lateral passes just inside our own half. They were not going to break shape come hell or high water.
Johsnn Djorou seems to be on his way. get the feeling he could be a good defender if he goes somewhere where defending is actively coached. arsenal's longest-serving current player, i believe.
But his best game for us by far.
Also didn't do his try to kill someone thing he does once a game, so that was an improvement too
How the fuck did that happen? Everyone was talking about 2010 being his swansong.
Like having Methuselah playing at centre back
Most of Hughes' players are mercenary cunts who couldn't give a fuck but Nelsen plays like he's been club captain for a decade
mean NZ actually have a pretty mean defence at the moment. All set to score draw their way to glory once more if his creaking bones and increasingly grey hair can eke out another season
at which point he'll seize up, look knowingly up to the sky, and petrify.
then a sacred wind will pick up and blow his crumbling husk from the earth in a gradual plume of silver dust.
In the past three months he's single-handedly rescued the club from its self-inflicted deadline-day disaster. He's carried us and it's almost a miracle we're still within touching distance of 5th / 6th, considering how terrible that squad looked on 1st September, and how well the teams around us have played at certain points throughout this season.
He's missed only one Prem game through suspension. For a player who is constantly chasing down until full time, that's impressive fitness. We surely have to rest him for the Cup game and make sure he's ready for United. In his current form I can't wait to see what he'll do at Old Trafford.
27 games in around 20 weeks is only around 120 minutes a week on average. How is that "impressive fitness" by any measure? Get them playing Saturday/Tuesday/Thursday/Saturday and *then* I'll be impressed by it.
top, top player
their job is to be fit, cant understand it at times
120 minutes a week would be pretty damn impressive compared to about 90% of the Earth's population. And it's not 120 minutes anyway.
I don't think exhaustion or tiredness is the same for a footballer than it is for you or me, anyway. If you play at the absolute highest level, the margins are very thin. A seemingly small dip in energy or fitness can have a disproportionately large impact on performance. For you or me ... Not so much.
I just did the maths and it's 121.5 minutes on average, assuming he played every minute of every game. I'm not sure the extra 90 seconds was worth picking me up on though.
Dont' get me wrong, I get that players are expected to be at their peak throughout a season and all that, but they're honestly spoilt when it comes to how little is expected of them and how good the support structures are compared to many top-flight athletes in other sports, or even other footballers. I just don't understand how being exceptionally fit and having that level of stamina this way isn't seen as a minimum expectation rather than an extra.
We aren't on the same page at all here.
where I compared to other sportspeople.
Being exceptionally fit categorically is a minimum expectation of professional top flight footballers.
Simply disagreeing for the sake of it. I forgot that someone else needed to step up during kik's annual absence :)
Torres would have a blinder then be tired in his next game, and often sulk a bit. Kuyt would run until the end of time but was shit in every other aspect of his game. The less said about Carroll's fitness the better.
I wasn't pitying him, just making the point he's extremely resilient when forwards would more often than not pick up knocks and niggles on the way. You sound like my dad!
Purplenose will clearly want to mark him out of the game but I'm not sure who in United's backline is capable of doing that...
Well, I say it'll be interesting - the gulf between the 2 clubs on display at Anfield made me feel quite, quite sick.
United were truly woeful that day. Even with 10 men Liverpool looked the much better side. Rooney and Van Persie were pretty much invisible.
But we looked hopeless for the most part, if I remember correctly. What I was referring to was that it showed why United win titles and we don't - when not playing well, United have a steeliness, a resilience and a knack of grinding out victories in unfavourable circumstances. Liverpool have none of that and at Anfield this year, when both sides weren't great, this quality was emphasised.
Sure Halsey made a bodge of the Shelvey/Evans debacle, but even still United would've won.
We looked dominant until Gerrard scored I think.
After that the extra man counted.
I'm looking for one of the kids to have a blinder against Mansfield - hopefully Robinson. To force his way in and let us play Johnson on the right. I really fancy him in his current form to give Evra a tough time.
Just saw his name on a list of potential transfers and thought oh yeah that guy
I remember being a bit annoyed that Arsene didn't try and get him when he went to Villa, amazing what 12 months of Mcleish can do for a player
Lambert can't be benching him AND Bent AND Given while they get bummed every week, surely?
Fabian Delph, Marc Albrighton, Stephen Ireland etc.
Seems like Villa have been a FM charlatan team for years now.
stephen ireland was our player of the year last year
Joe Cole (Liverpool) to West Ham
Djibril Cisse (QPR) to Lille
Guillaume Hoarau (PSG) to Sunderland, Everton or Liverpool
Johan Djourou (Arsenal) to Hannover or Napoli
Lewis Holtby (Schalke) to Spurs
Edinson Cavani (Napoli) to Man City, Chelsea, Barcelona, Real Madrid or PSG
Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid) to Man Utd
Gonzalo Higuain (Real Madrid) to Chelsea
David Villa (Barcelona) to Spurs or Liverpool
Frank Lampard (Chelsea) to Inter
Tal Ben Haim (free agent, formerly Portsmouth) to QPR
Faouzi Ghoulam (Saint Etienne) to Stoke, Fulham or Udinese
Michu (Swansea) to Zenit St Petersburg or Anzhi Makhachkhala
Derek Boateng (Dnipro) to Fulham
Nick Powell (Man Utd) to Peterborough
Ezekiel Fryers (Standard Liège) to Spurs
Anthony Réveillère (Lyon) to QPR
Andrey Arshavin (Arsenal) to PSV
Joel (Atlético Madrid) to Wigan
Beram Kayal (Celtic) to Norwich
Gary Hooper (Celtic) to Norwich
Yann M'vila (Rennes) to Arsenal
Micah Richards (Man City) to Chelsea
should have to have their names translated before being allowed to play here. Dave House to Tottenham. Not so exciting now.
By the same token, nobody would be surprised that someone called Frank Towers was having such a mare up front for Chelsea if we'd followed my suggestion and removed the cool name to hide behind.
nb i may have completely imagined this and/or got all the non existent details completely wrong.
It translated to Jermaine Defoe.
To Swansea, Everton, or anyone else who's better than Bristol City.
His name always comes up when the transfer window opens but he never goes anywhere
Although this window might finally be the one. If he gets into the final Ghana squad for the ACoN, that'll be it.
top top lad
Criticises players "only here for the money" then signs one of the players who pretty much bankrupted Pompey?
But ee's not a fahckin' wheeler dealer, awright?
jamie murphy crying before leaving motherwell
It was hard to watch.
I loved him as a player for Palace and seeed really down to earth and clearly cared about the job.
Strangely it was only a couple of months back that he was in the frame for the Palace job after Freedman left.
Canaries, Royals and Wagons up next in the league.
Minimum of 9 points needed from those three games I think.
but it seemed like Chelsea's problem wasn't the changes they made per se- Marin in particular had a good game horror tackle aside- but the fact that once again they were playing a terrified blonde colt up front, and this time they didn't have the quality in midfield to force the goals they otherwise would have despite him. Would that be correct?
But playing him upfront in a Munchkin pairing with Jay Rodriguez (cheers, Laws!) never did him justice.
Wouldn't try to trot out any kinda weakened team argument. More an inappropriate team- a Mata-type player is going to be a huge help against a defensive set-up at home but might not be missed so much against a more open Southampton at their place. Part of me wonders if Benitez recognizes he's not getting a title on the updated CV he'll send off to Adecco or Reed or whoever in May but thinks he might be able to sneak an FA Cup on there ...
Torres is fucking gash, mind.
that'll be clogging up the gym from today until mid-Feb.
Get out of my FACE, saddlebags
this piece of horrible misanthropy was meant to be posted elsewhere
what a cock, in all fairness.
I wouldn't mess with Mancini. He may look like a cartoon prince, but anyone mental enough to go at Moyes should probably be treated with caution
Was it Veron that he tried to batter topless after a game?
Like a chic version of naked Pulis nutting James Beattie
You'd like to say that physically assaulting a manager would be the final straw but he'll probably start the next 10 games now.
IMAGINE. LOSING. 1-0. AT HOME! TO QPR!
Stop trynig to make 'wagons' happen.
Vamos' gallant attempt to have Everyon enshrined stood no chance after that
What was the middle part of the *you're already down chant* last night? All I could make out was
You're already down
You're al-rea-dy do-ow-own
You're already down
due to racist chanting.
dulce et decorum est
too proud to google
World remains firmly on its axis.
Last memory I have of him was in the Carling Cup against Gillingham this season; looked overweight and badly off the pace. Really struggled to find a place in the team under McInnes, might have been a problem with his attitude as he didn't seem too out of place for our style of play. Hope he does well back at Bournemouth, he seems really happy there and fair play to him.
Glad to have him back and Mr Howe will get the best out of him. reckon we will send Barnard back to the scummers, has done pretty well but is on crazy wages and probably not needed. Need a bit of defensive cover and re-sign Marv and send off the two dutch lads who have just been cashing their pay cheques since arriving on the beautiful south coast
Not really worked out for him at Arsenal has it?
Rather it's a loan deal with Arsenal still picking up some of his wages, apparently.