If a male pats a female on the bum at work and no complaint is made, this is apparently 'molestation', 'completely unnacceptable', a 'serious incident', and should lead to a sacking.
LOL.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/dec/12/boris-johnson-deputy-apologises-woman
Hmmm, interesting...
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Appear.
Don't understand why someone in politics would need to ask this question
"If he didn't do anything wrong why did he apologise?"
don't want to talk about Pat Finucane then?
pat on the bottom instead
Probably deserves its own thread mind you
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-20662412
While the report says there was no state conspiracy
it seems to have sailed as close as it's possible to get to state conspiracy (you're probably right about this needing its own thread).
I'm looking forward to to my walk home tonight!
What if a female pats a male on the bum?
It's not really an issue because girls aren't very scary
...
http://tinyurl.com/7xbf77j
*enters thread*
*leaves thread, puts hood up, starts to run*
bit shady
he's left behind the stink of metropolitan oppression
It's the sexist!
Get him girls!
is that hard to not molest women?
unless you work in a tapas restaurant
boom boom
oh, very good.
Classic non-apology
`Nonetheless I would like to apologise unreservedly for anything that could be or may have been construed as inappropriate behaviour on my part.`
Might as well not bother if you're going to frame it like that.
the
thing we are all thinking is, was the lady fit?
if she was she would have been able to run away in time
and recover her resting pulse-rate with surprising celerity
PAT x
Stay classy, Telegraph commentators
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/poland/9739414/Man-burns-his-head-after-mistaking-iron-for-phone.html
Comment by lobrio:
"And still there are numerous leftwingers that will bang on about how foreigners arriving here in their thousands, will enrich the land and raise the intellect of Britain ! "
“After breakfast I started to work. I turned on the boxing channel on the TV, opened a beer and started ironing"!!!!!
After breakfast?!
better than before breakfast
Presumably this story must be a joke.
I would think so. In the picture he appears to be ironing a towel.
No one irons towels!
I've said this before on here
but I have a friend who irons tea towels and dish cloths
...we're on DiS social here...
4291
apologies for linking to the Mail
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1327301/Helen-Macintyre-The-woman-gave-birth-Boris-Johnsons-baby.html
This picture is incredible.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/11/07/article-1327301-0BF162D7000005DC-603_468x394.jpg
what happened to the posts that were there?
deleted due to libel considerations.
NO FUN
Not libel, seeing as though it was true,
But rather a breach of a court injunction.
National Security
i got assaulted at work last night. cheers.
happens at least once a week, it's always customers having a bit of a grope.
never work at a bar, people
surely it should be upon bars to offer a safe working environment
not upon women to be forced to cut their employment options
did you complain to the management for not enforcing the law? should do if not
they're sick of hearing me and the other girls complain.
one of my co-workers was grabbed by the neck and the bloke threatened to strangle her the other week. one blokes asked me if i'd be interested in a good fucking, and another groped my boobs and asked if free sex was part of my job description.
most often the offenders get away. we've got cctv but they don't deem anything appropriate to chase up because it's 'not like you were raped'. they see arse grabbing as part and parcel of our contracts.
the most they do is take names and ban, but that's rarely the case. if we have table bookings then obviously it's a bit easier but that only accounts for one person per bookings, with bookings counting for approximately 10% of our customers.
oh God, that's horrible
they didn't even take action over your co-worker being throttled? What the fuck.
they managed to get his name, i think
chances are not all of the door staff saw him, so depending on who's working and about when he fancies his chances he can get back in.
get back in?
he should be arrested for assault for a fucking start. What a horrible world we live in.
ask to bring in a capsaicin spray
use it if they lay a finger
better that than you quitting and some other woman being plunged into the same fate
this except don't ask if you can take it in
just take it with you and go nuts
or this yeah
a propos of nothing, capsaicin is one of my favourite words. exquisite.
Fucking hell.
Bunch of cunts.
pricks*
absolute :(
it's pretty sickening that you can be sure this takes place all over the country
and yet there hasn't been a widescale crackdown.
how much proper action has actually been taken against bar proprietors or managers over this kind of thing?
every day we go up to the wall and we fight with the wall
and the next day the wall is still there
Nothing wrong with giving a woman a bit of a pat on the bottom.
Most of them like it.
They should take it as a sign that colleagues are noticing them doing their jobs well.
I think I may have fixed the banning of Sheeeeeeiiit here.
Yup, it worked.
Phew.
lol you took out an innocent meowington post as collateral
MODLESTATION
Yeah THEO.
Stop suppressing me because I have a vagina, you pig.
It would have been a reply to a reply.
That's all I deleted.
SO SHUT IT!
About time, too.
Easily the shittest DiSer.
Good work, Teho.
I thought it was one of your alt accounts
for trying out your B material
Parsefone did it, actually.
I just didn't like how it left incandenza_ looking like everyone hated him for a random post.
it's been a random few days for incan-d
In the walls of the cubicle there were three orifices. To the right of the speakwrite, a small pneumatic tube for written messages, to the left, a larger one for newspapers; and in the side wall, within easy reach of Winston's arm, a large oblong slit protected by a wire grating. This last was for the disposal of waste paper. Similar slits existed in thousands or tens of thousands throughout the building, not only in every room but at short intervals in every corridor. For some reason they were nicknamed memory holes. When one knew that any document was due for destruction, or even when one saw a scrap of waste paper lying about, it was an automatic action to lift the flap of the nearest memory hole and drop it in, whereupon it would be whirled away on a current of warm air to the enormous furnaces which were hidden somewhere in the recesses of the building.
Aw man
I thought I'd hit two birds with one stone by ruining CG's thread.
Could just ban CG.
That would ruin his threads pretty good.
*all threads
ah
so that happened.
can't say I'll miss him.
who did he used to be, Theo?
No idea.
He was just some dude. Parsefone deleted him.
We'll always have Cooking With Sheeeeeeiit
Sooo, no one actually wants to discuss the issues raised by this thread?
Okey dokey.
a person should not pat another person on the behind
unless there is either a mutual sexy feeling or a mutual jokey understanding.
tell us about the issues raised by this thread
Here's the issue as I see it.
If a really shit, obvious wind-up merchant manages to get a few rises or replies, who represents the real problem?
But enough about the leader of the London Labour party.
I'm certainly struggling to see what else it could be, really.
It was about two things:
1) The cliched comedy lefty trying so hard to be 'right on' and claim the moral high ground that they end looking ridiculous through hyperbole.
2) A wider problem (not just a Labour probhlem, though they're the worst cuplprits) of 'demanding' anyone stand down for even the most minor infractions. It's why so many of our politicians are so boring and detached. The next Facebook Generation of MPs are gonna be fucked if this approach continues.
it's time to ditch democracy
it's really the only option
democracy should stand down
i honestly can't believe you're not a bit ashamed of starting a thread belittling workplace harassment
your argument seems to be that because no formal complaint was made, no issue exists. and you come back in here after people have posted their first hand experiences of sexual harassment, with explanations on how complaints are dealt with and why they don't get made, and carry on trolling. pretty low.
also, separately, you talk about the culture of apologising as some kind of Labour contrivance. the only politician i can think of (i'm sure there are others, but i genuinely don't know any) who's refused to make an apology when there's outcry like this is Ken Livingstone, when he compared a journalist to a nazi. and ken livingstone is pretty Labour.
I ignored/avoided all the serious stuff in this thread. quite deliberately.
Am I denying work place harrassment goes on? Nope. Am I saying that there are different levels of harrassment that should have different repurcussions? Yes.
An isolated pat on the bottom (even if it formally complained about) is not molestation nor a serious incident, and nor should it lead to a sacking or resignation. It's a minor infraction which, if raised, should be dealt with through HR processes, not by the baying mob.
if definitely is molestation & sexual harassment
http://www.safeworkers.co.uk/sexualharassmentwork.html
I disagree.
But it's a moot point anyway. The discussion is about a punishment fitting a crime. On this front, the London Labour Party leader's judgement is way off.
the judgement is only way off if you disagree with how you see what he's done
so it's not moot at all.
and you know full well that all politicans consistent score points, and someone saying that their rival should stand down is not the same thing as them thinking what they done should lead to someone losing their job.
however, i think it's untenable for someone with such influence on crime policy should be sexually harassing women and not even giving a real apology when they're called up on it. or denying it when they're innocent.
don't be a dick
you're saying the punishment should fit the crime, then denying the crime despite it quite clearly being a case of molestation & sexual harassment
so your opinion is questionable to say the least and is irrelevant
if you want to say that you think that males in positions of power should be afforded the odd grope now and again without fear of reappraisal then go ahead and say it
Well done on comprehensively disproving something that was never argued.
I can't not disagree with anything you've written
why can't I pat some of the bottoms some of the time?!!
Where I work it's not uncommon to receive a good card swipe up the rear
even the girls join in. Oh and that's with the food menu's by the way.
you work in hooters?
jay-zs menu's
bit more here
http://londonist.com/2012/12/deputy-mayor-for-policing-accused-of-sexual-harassment.php
What about
if you pat all sexes on the rear in equal measure for a job well done?
What about
cow pats?
quite