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untrue [Edit] [Delete] 52 replies 00:42 December 12th, 2012

http://www.lukeletellier.com/wp-content/plugins/download-monitor/download.php?id=The+Hobbit+Trailer+%40+48fps+-+High+Quality.flv

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48faps > 24faps

fappable | 12 Dec '12, 06:29 | X | ^ This | Reply

theShipment this'd this
Fucking hell, that looks horrendous.

Like a cheap TV show.

TheoGB | 12 Dec '12, 09:30 | X | ^ This | Reply
- I think my computer's not displaying it properly.
  
  Everything looks fucked. Like the sound's at the right rate but the movement seems too fast, like a Charlie Chaplin film.
  
  TheoGB @TheoGB | 12 Dec '12, 09:31 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - that's just your perception
    
    apparently if you watch more than 10 minutes of it your brain adjusts
    
    Mehodor @TheoGB | 12 Dec '12, 22:25 | X | ^ This | Reply
it looks like a cheap hdtv

doesnt it, like just not quite right

Noblet | 12 Dec '12, 09:32 | X | ^ This | Reply
It's simple maths.

SenorDingDong | 12 Dec '12, 09:33 | X | ^ This | Reply

ethricdouble, deadonthestairs, and fuck_this_band this'd this
48fps > 24fps

true if the criteria is 'the cinema industry continuing to make vast sums of money'

Cementimental | 12 Dec '12, 12:09 | X | ^ This | Reply
- are you under the impression
  
  that people get paid by the frame?
  
  ethricdouble @Cementimental | 12 Dec '12, 12:10 | X | ^ This | Reply
  
  Lucien this'd this
  - I'm not cat_race
    
    Cementimental @ethricdouble | 12 Dec '12, 16:46 | X | ^ This | Reply
    - makes sense to be paid by the frame though
      
      cat_race @Cementimental | 12 Dec '12, 16:50 | X | ^ This | Reply
      
      Cementimental and ethricdouble this'd this
      - yeah
        
        buthten etha ll the films are too long
        
        ethricdouble @cat_race | 12 Dec '12, 17:32 | X | ^ This | Reply
        
        not if you use part time actors
        
        cat_race @ethricdouble | 12 Dec '12, 21:48 | X | ^ This | Reply
Haha wait he just post-converted the normal trailer as an exercise, it won't actually look quite like this (still will look weird/bad I'm sure tho)

http://www.lukeletellier.com/?portfolio=post-converting-the-hobbit-trailer-to-48fps

Cementimental | 12 Dec '12, 12:10 | X | ^ This | Reply
- Yeah I questioned that in a comment, although it tells me it's awaiting moderation
  
  so maybe you can't see it.
  
  TheoGB @Cementimental | 12 Dec '12, 12:53 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - He has a blog post with more info on how he did it that you could ever want unless you were also a postproduction artist/nerd:
    
    http://www.lukeletellier.com/?p=205
    
    Cementimental @TheoGB | 12 Dec '12, 16:46 | X | ^ This | Reply
- ?
  
  I’m confused how you can convert 24fps to 48fps without simply doubling every frame? Surely if it’s filmed in 48fps then that’s 48 different frames rather than 24 different frames doubled up?
  
  zxcvbnm- @Cementimental | 12 Dec '12, 17:10 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - Wayhey!
    
    It's there.
    
    TheoGB @zxcvbnm- | 12 Dec '12, 17:12 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - you times it by two instead of doubling
    
    cat_race @zxcvbnm- | 12 Dec '12, 21:47 | X | ^ This | Reply
Apparently people are leaving the cinema feeling nauseous

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rich78 | 12 Dec '12, 12:16 | X | ^ This | Reply
- yes please
  
  thewarn @rich78 | 12 Dec '12, 12:16 | X | ^ This | Reply
  
  japes, rich78, deadonthestairs, andyvine, and incandenza_ this'd this
- But what do they think about the 48fps issue?
  
  Lucien @rich78 | 12 Dec '12, 12:52 | X | ^ This | Reply
- Milk and two, please.
  
  justanothersheeldz @rich78 | 12 Dec '12, 12:57 | X | ^ This | Reply
- PEOPLE LEAVE CINEMAS FEELING NAUSEOUS AT ANY FILM THAT ISN"T SHOT LIKE AN EPISODE OF NEIGHBORS
  
  Cementimental @rich78 | 12 Dec '12, 16:44 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - it's going to fail at the boxoffice
    
    jackson should have locked off his tripods and only used static shots
    
    georgiabeth @Cementimental | 12 Dec '12, 16:47 | X | ^ This | Reply
When i was at uni

i used to prefer to make my films 12fps for the jerky Harryhausen look. SHOWS WHAT YOU KNOW

andyvine | 12 Dec '12, 12:17 | X | ^ This | Reply
- Harryhausen is not really jerky and filmed at 24fps, albiet without motion blur so it looks stopmotiony
  
  18 FPS SUPER-8 FOR LYFE
  
  Cementimental @andyvine | 12 Dec '12, 16:48 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - I didn't know that
    
    I mean the more mechanical feel was what I was after, I think if you're making summat with puppets everyone knows you're making it with puppets, so why not make it look like it's been made with puppets?
    
    andyvine @Cementimental | 12 Dec '12, 17:07 | X | ^ This | Reply
    - indeed!
      
      That's why I'm not keen on a lot of super high budget modern stop motion eg Tim Burton related stuff, it might as well be CGI if it gets TOO smooth... On the other hand a curse on Wes Anderson for frame reducing great animation after the fact because it looked too 'good' >_<
      
      Cementimental @andyvine | 12 Dec '12, 17:11 | X | ^ This | Reply
      - I know what you mean
        
        although i like the way in films like Wallace and Gromit they modelled fingerprints onto the CGI characters so that they looked like plasticene :)
        
        andyvine @Cementimental | 12 Dec '12, 17:18 | X | ^ This | Reply
        
        Cementimental this'd this
- I tried to animate stop motion on twos once but
  
  i discovered when I played it back i'd subconsciously done it at 25fps anyway -__-
  
  Cementimental @andyvine | 12 Dec '12, 16:49 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - Probably could have sorted it out in post?
    
    andyvine @Cementimental | 12 Dec '12, 17:10 | X | ^ This | Reply
    - I did, we had to speed it up x 2 :)
      
      Cementimental @andyvine | 12 Dec '12, 17:22 | X | ^ This | Reply
can't wait to see what those blurry slow motion shots

he put in LOTR every 2 minutes look like in 48fps

ethricdouble | 12 Dec '12, 12:23 | X | ^ This | Reply
Got tickets booked for tomorrow night, 48fps AND 3D.

If I'm not throwing up popcorn and cursing the name of Jackson by the time I leave, I shall be very disappointed.

hip_young_gunslinger | 12 Dec '12, 12:48 | X | ^ This | Reply
Is it only in HFR in 3D?

justanothersheeldz | 12 Dec '12, 13:00 | X | ^ This | Reply
- Believe so. I think that was the point of doing it like that, to make the 3D look better.
  
  TheoGB @justanothersheeldz | 12 Dec '12, 17:10 | X | ^ This | Reply
25fps>>>>>

georgiabeth | 12 Dec '12, 16:02 | X | ^ This | Reply
- such a xenophobe
  
  georgiabeth @georgiabeth | 12 Dec '12, 16:03 | X | ^ This | Reply
- luddite
  
  ethricdouble @georgiabeth | 12 Dec '12, 16:04 | X | ^ This | Reply
just disintegrates into pink squares for me

shrewbie | 12 Dec '12, 17:03 | X | ^ This | Reply

fuck_this_band this'd this
omeone described The Hobbit as Jackson's Phantom Menace

I hope it'snto true but apparently they've got the book, threw it in the bin and made this a cinematic LOTR prequel.

moker | 12 Dec '12, 17:04 | X | ^ This | Reply
- My colleague saw it and said it's the first third of the book in full.
  
  So away with your Daily Mail hyperbole.
  
  TheoGB @moker | 12 Dec '12, 17:13 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - It wasn't Daily Mail who said that clearly
    
    It was some film person. I can't remember though.
    
    If it was the Daily Mail, it would be "immigrant workers steal actiing job and guess who picks up the bill" or something.
    
    moker @TheoGB | 12 Dec '12, 17:18 | X | ^ This | Reply
    - I;m sure they could get some hitler-related tolkien headline going
      
      http://io9.com/5892697/whats-classier-than-jrr-tolkien-telling-off-nazis-absolutely-nothing
      
      Cementimental @moker | 12 Dec '12, 17:26 | X | ^ This | Reply
OUR FILM WILL BE AT A NORMAL FRAMERATE AND CONTAIN STOP MOTION FX

please support instead of The Hobbit: http://drownedinsound.com/community/boards/social/4421426

(JAG)

Cementimental | 12 Dec '12, 17:24 | X | ^ This | Reply
videogames have been running over 24fps for ages

no idea why cinema can't keep up.

StormJH | 12 Dec '12, 17:54 | X | ^ This | Reply
- Yeah, 120 frames per second, you cavemen
  
  Yesiamaduck @StormJH | 12 Dec '12, 18:25 | X | ^ This | Reply
- most of my pc games run at about 2 fps
  
  cat_race @StormJH | 12 Dec '12, 21:48 | X | ^ This | Reply
  
  fuck_this_band and NickDS this'd this
  - haha
    
    Jordan_229_2 @cat_race | 12 Dec '12, 21:53 | X | ^ This | Reply
Was going to just say this is a load of shite for nobheads...

like when people try and pretend FLAC or MP4 files sound better than MP3s, etc, but i watched a clip in 48fps, and it was truly dreadful. Looked like a cheap telly soap, and i genuinely felt a bit dizzy watching it.

If that's really what it does, i doubt i'd make it through a film without walking out, or even vomiting.

forzaborza | 12 Dec '12, 18:55 | X | ^ This | Reply
wont be seein

lotr is appalling

TheKennedyCurse | 12 Dec '12, 22:35 | X | ^ This | Reply

untrue this'd this
- haha untrue agreed with you
  
  cat_race @TheKennedyCurse | 13 Dec '12, 09:55 | X | ^ This | Reply

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