The demonetisation of nursey rhymes: political correctness gone mad?
I have a book of nursery rhymes at home, actually I have several, but this one in question is by the Children's Television Workshop, the people who make sesame street, so all the illustrations are with sesame street characters.
Anyhoo, there are two nursery rhymes in there where references to money have been expunged. You're probably familiar with:
All around the mulberry bush
The monkey chased the weasel
The monkey thought 'twas all in fun
Pop! goes the weasel.
A penny for a spool of thread
A penny for a needle
That's the way the money goes
Pop! goes the weasel.
And various other verses, this book only includes the above two, BUT it changes the second:
A penny for a spool of thread
A penny for a needle
That's the way we sing the song
Pop! goes the weasel.
And then - and this is one of my favourites so it really annoys me:
Sing a song of sixpence
A pocketful of rye
Four and twenty blackbirds baked in a pie
When the pie was opened the birds began to sing
"Oh wasn't that a dainty dish to set before the king!"
The king was in his counting house, counting out his money
The queen was in her parlour, eating bread and honey.
The maid was in the garden, hanging out the clothes
When along came a blackbird and pecked at her nose!
So here they change the first line of the second verse:
The king was on his throne, patting his pet bunny
It's a fucking outrage. Interestingly they keep references to denominations of money, but just remove references to money as a more general concept. I suppose sing a song of six bunnies doesn't really work.
I dunno, maybe I should let it go, but it really really annoys me.
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Demonetisation isn't a thing
sorry
Although I genuinely don't know why anyone would do this.
Course it is
The Greeks are seriously considering it as a strategy to avoid their current woes.
Yeah the Disneyification of fairy tales and nursery rhymes is a bit odd
they should be dark and weird, they are supposed to be cauntionary tales for kids. I remember the ladybird editions of fairtales when I was young; some of the illustrations were really quite dark and but in a much more maature style than the cartoon ones you see nowadays.
Anyway, I only came here to say I think there is a verse in Pop Goes the Weasel about a pub on city road. I don't remember it myself but apparently a verse goes:
Up and down the City Road
In and out the Eagle
That's the way the money goes
Pop goes the weasel
And that's drinking so maybe that verse had been removed from when I was a child, so it could be nothing new.
Nursey rhymes have definitely changed since I were a lad
Typical example:
Eeny meeny miney moe
Catch a ****** by his toe
If he squeals, let him go
Eeny meeny miney moe
Ah, I was going to start a thread about that one day
When I was young I had no idea what that censored word meant and paid it no attention. Thought it was just one of those old fashioned words like tinker (ie tinker, tailor etc).
We used to use that rhyme all the time in infant school and I must have been about 8 or 9 (maybe younger but not much) when I finally was told it was a racial slur.
I couldn't believe it that us kids had been merrily saying that rhyme and no one had pointed out that maybe we shouldn't!
I always used to think it was (and sing) 'catch a nicker by its toe'
probably for the best this one gets updated though, eh?
I thought that as well.
I'm sure that that is what it was changed to deliberately. In fact, I've not actually given this any thought until NV brought it up.
In the distant recesses of my memory it's always been nicker.
pretty sure we were taught it as 'nipper' instead
My 7yr old sings
''catch a baby by his toe''
Not particularly PC, but at least it isn't illegal!
I weirdly remember someone 'updating' it to 'black man'.
Yeah, glad that got dead and buried, frankly.
it was always tiger as far as i was aware
that scans better as well
BAA BAA MULTILCOLOURED NON-GENDER-BINARY SHEEP
One for the non-gender-specific capitalist
And one for the non-gender-specific capitalist's life partner
And one for the little boy who lives down the lane
In a slightly related tangent
the gf was helping out in a posh infant school in Hampstead the other week and said they were read a story about gay penguins and then the teacher was talking about how some people have two daddys or two mummys. I thought that was really cute.
Does Clause 28 mean nothing to these people?!
Call the police!
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The story is called And Tango Made Three
I believe. It is a true story of gay penguins believe it or not.
I heard this little piggy had tofu
instead of the usual roast beef.
That's all I've got
Well pigs will eat anything.
I may well be patting my pet bunny tonight
You hear a lot of stories of nursery rhymes being changed
supposedly for PC gawwwn maaad reasons. The reality is a little bit more dull really. People often mention Baa Baa Rainbow Sheep, which was apparently done to avoid offending black people. People still whinge on about this and use it as an example of meddling PC busybodies. Except noone actually uses this version, it was just done in a nursery as an alternate version to teach kids about different colours. Nothing to do with PC whatseoever. And when you look into any of these similar stories, you usually find it is the same. It was changed in a single place for a specific reason, people at home can still sing whatever they like.
Yeah, I am very sceptical about this sort of thing
It seems that there are dozens of pre-internet urban myths which have found their way into ''truth''
Yep
There are a load of examples which originate from a list along the lines of "what would happen if PC went mad", intentionally ridiculous changes like being forced to say chalkboard instead of blackboard. This somehow morphed into the truth and are quoted incredibly frequently by the likes of the Daily Mail. The Winterval myth is a fascinating one, one council decided to rebrand Christmas and whole load of other things under a single banner of Winterval. All for dull marketing reasons. This was in 1998. It caused a bit of a stir at the time despite it being completely a non-issue, but over the years it seems to have achieved mythical status. It has been debunked and the Mail even printed a clarification after a column banged on about it, but people STILL are saying "ah well they've banned christmas now, you have to call it Winterval so you don't offend muslims". No you don't you moron.
I agree with all that
and the "political correctness gone mad" thing in the title was tongue in cheek. But it doesn't change the fact that this book:
http://www.amazon.com/Sing-Song-Sixpence-Sesame-Beginnings/dp/0375815287/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1355722522&sr=1-2&keywords=sing+a+song+of+sixpence
has removed references to money in the titular rhyme and "Pop goes the weasel". And I really can't fathom it. Is money too crass for children? Do we need to shield their innocence from the facts that money can be short for some of us, while kings and princes can count theirs all day?
I like how they were happy with the idea of baking birds alive
and birds attacking people, but the idea of presenting the concept of money to children was too terrifying
And then compare it with this bit of casual bigotry
I came across in a much older nursery rhyme book (didn't check for a date, probably between the wars):
Taffy was a Welshman, Taffy was a thief;
Taffy came to my house and stole a piece of beef;
I went to Taffy's house, Taffy wasn't in;
I jumped upon his Sunday hat and poked it with a pin.
Taffy was a Welshman, Taffy was a sham;
Taffy came to my house and stole a piece of lamb;
I went to Taffy's house, Taffy was away,
I stuffed his socks with sawdust and filled his shoes with clay.
Taffy was a Welshman, Taffy was a cheat,
Taffy came to my house, and stole a piece of meat;
I went to Taffy's house, Taffy was not there,
I hung his coat and trousers to roast before a fire.