People put down Wetherspoons but here's the thing
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You always get a good pint. That's cheap.
All these cunting bars in Islington and whatever that cost £4.50 for a normal pint then they don't even give you a head on it. Or the bottle is warm. Or they can't pour Guinness.
Say what you like about the 'spoons, they're anal about how they keep and pour their drinks.
Also, they have a good selection. In fact, they're great pubs.
Shame about the atmosphere.
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I've been to some 'spoons
and the beer tasted like remnants from the drip tray that had been left out in the sun and then somone farted in the glass. Rank.
Really? I've never had a bad pint in one
in fact, I had a mate who worked for one and they sacked him for not pouring the beer right.
Tim Martin (the founder) has a serious bee in his bonnet about quality. It's why they have those temperature gauges on the bar sometimes.
Tim Martin is also a rightwing nutcase.
I only knew he was against Europe/the single currency. Wasn't aware of anything else.
Not massively relevant anyway, is it? That patriotic pint was a bit embarrassing but otherwise it's not a major issue.
He also argues against further EU integration/the Euro
solely from an economic point of view, rather than a social and cultural one, from what I've read.
As a result, I've never found much to complain about in what he says about it.
When David Cameron used his veto in Europe
Tim Martin released a limited edition "veto" ale.
That was pretty annoying.
A bit kneejerk and unnecessary, I agree...
...I don't think such trite political statements belong in pubs. But I won't even begin to pretend I understand all of the complex arguments for and against Cameron's actions around the EU table on that day so I'll abstain from commenting on the wider issue there.
Apparently they use a lot of end-of-line stock from breweries
Stuff that will go off tomorrow - but a big Wetherspoons can sell a keg of lager in one day easily enough. Might not be too nice but there you go: that's one way they keep prices down (another is just economy of scale).
yes
I just get so put off by chain pubs in general
Doesn't help that I studied in bournemouth and there were so many of them there. I've mostly lived in a bunch of small towns so adjusting to not having small town, actual pubs is weird for me.
Do appreciate spoons for cheap drinks though.
I'll defend Spoons until the death.
I just don't have pints from there. You can get sub £3 drinks from their world beer section that are nicer and bigger
Do you know why Wetherspoons is called Wetherspoons?
When they first opened it was just called a generic pub name but they were deciding whether to have spoons or not in their place. And thats how they came up with the name wetherspoons.
I have a similar story about Percy Pigs
I've met the lady who invented Percy Pigs.
sure,
Elaina Casserole isn't it?
Are you calling her a pig?
In a day and age where we could possibly have a girl being heir to the throne before the first born son, you sicken me.
DON'T START THAT AGAIn
:'''''D
they are part owned by hollywood A-lister Reece
That is also true.
Nope wrong, it is actually a Warning Message about the New World Order/Zionists
If you look at WETHERSPOONS Backwards it is;
SNOOPSREHTEW
or
SNOOP SREHTEW
SNOOP STREETVIEW
They couldnt quite work out what SREHTEW was at the time (bad decryptor machine probably, and the fact Street View (by Google/Zoogle (zionist-google)) never existed yet)So now (present day) we should listen to the warning.
Street View is Snooping (spying) on us.
It's actually because
it was Tim Martin's old maths teacher or something Mr wetherspoon and he liked the name. BORING FACT.
No thats wrong.
You've got it wrong. Its definitely the spoon story.
Wikipedia backs me up
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J_D_Wetherspoon
You've just changed that to back up your point.
Pretty low really.
i don't believe part of setting up a pub/restaurant process
is the 'do we need spoons' meeting.
Pretty sure its INTEGRAL to setting up a pub
If they don't need spoons, they're probably cutting down on a lot of costs! You need to work out if you're having spoons or not because that means you're not having stuff that would cost money to eat with a spoon! JESUS. Do you guy's know NOTHING about setting up a cheap pub chain?
I thought it was named after a character from the Dukes of Hazard and one of his teachers
Right guys we've come to item 13.5.6 on the agenda which is whether we should have spoons?
Doesn't that depend on whether we serve desserts or tea & coffee sir?
Stick to the agenda godammit!
soME OF THEM ARE OK
Some of them are awful.
I'd rather pay a wee bit more for somewhere with a nice atmosphere and interesting clientele because that matters more to me. I hate chromw city bars for that reasons- full of dullards and generic mate-market tendencies. Wetherspoons- full of people that are there for the cheap booze.
Independent bars or decent brewery pubs- just tend to be a bit better.
MATE-MARKET.COM
WOuld be a good website for making mew friends on.
She has a lot of friend already though.
agreed
remember bar italia? somehow WORSE than the spoons crowd
All Bar One
worse than the Spoons crowd.
it's basically pissed barrowboys in both cases isn't it?
it's a tie between two things for the highlight of my night that night
1. Watching that cockroach slowly twitch in expiration , culminating in an almighty shudder and... death
2. me falling down the stairs and braining myself.
3. me meeting that woman from Port Glasgow
who told me i wasn't from that area because i was posh and english. Aye, dollface.
:D forgot about 3!
Weirdest place!
This is not true.
Leaving aside snobby ale bants about generic beer, Wetherspoons establishments easily have the highest shit pint/good pint ratios of any pubs I've frequented. You put up with it precisely because of the price.
Guys! We've found another!
Chap who lives in London who has programmed himself to think cheaper is always worse. Get him in the van.
I'm wearing a Primark jumper, you cunt.
Unless you got something from greggs spilt down it
I'm going to stick with my original statement
best comeback
Greggs? Well, lah-de-dah
Percy Ingle ftw
I think it's a shame that so many people would rather go to some generic plastic shit house and save 20p on a pint than go somewhere nice.
but hey ho.
I never really choose to go to a Spoons
It just sort of happens, due to convenience or late opening or whatever.
Insert your own humorous analogy here. I'm in the midst of post-lunch slump.
Oh and in the run-up to Burns night
Because Scottish beers.
EXACLY
It's about the drink. They have loads of choice and they're always well kept / poured (in general).
HEY LOOK...
HERE'S THIS GUY WITH HIS OPINIONS AGAIN.
I live in that London
and its more like saving 2 pounds per pint, not 20p
the couple of Wetherspoons around me do a great pint
from the guest ale section. Whereas all the 'proper' old men pubs, where you'd expect there to be a decent bit of ale, are hampered by shitty, feckless brewers and poor maintenance.
you can get a far better pint from places in town, mind
I walked into the Montague Pyke the other evening
and wanted a pint of BITBURGER PLEASE
(actually I wanted a pint of a different fancy German wheat beer next to it but couldn't be arsed to pronounce it)
So the barman repeats "...Bitburger..." to himself and pours THE OTHER ONE. Fine, whatever. But after pouring the entire pint he says "this was the one you wanted, right?"
Urgh. Yeah cool story bro
So what you're saying is Spoons staff are mindreaders
I tried to order a bottle of Staropramen once
The girl spent ages dithering around the bar, then came back to me and asked me if it was a wine. I told her it was a beer and had to play the 'up, down, left, right' game as she hovered infront of the fridge.
Christ almighty.
There was a fair amount of dithering going on with this guy actually. The woman before me wanted "rose, with some ice" (wtf) and he initially forgot the ice and when she mentioned it he put ONE cube in :')
was it in S. Fowler & Co by any chance?
I doubt ANYONE on the IOW has heard of Staropramen :')
I tried to order a bottle of Kuppers Kolsch on 3 separate occasion at the Deaf Institute on Sunday.
Each time I got something completely different.
The highlight was getting a bottle of 7.3% Erdinger Pikantus (+ a pint of Staropramen) for the incorrect price of £5.50!
<3 Erdinger Pikantus
I needs me some strong continental wheat beer STAT
Aye, it was lovely.
Not a very good beer for a Sunday, though.
I live in Bristol
but by coincidence was in the Montagu Pyke yesterday. Have to say it seemed like one of the better ones. My half of Asahi was well nice.
Um, you do know that the reason why Wetherspoons is so cheap,
is that they buy their beer in later than everyone else - just before it's due to expire?
Which is probably why I find that most of their pints are hovering on the verge of being off.
Urban myth, i'm afraid.
Not according to the manager of one that I know.
Outside of that they can use their size to push prices down - but the only reason they got to that size is because of the late purchasing.
#managermates
I just don't believe that at all
No offence. Not saying you're lying, just think it's not true. Chinese whispers or summit.
End of line stock is a real thing
I used to live in a pub, read the trade press. It works better with drinks in pressurised kegs (lagers, most ciders, Guinness) as that stuff is less prone to going bad anyway. Doing that with real ale (anything in a barrel, drawn by vacuum pump) is asking for trouble, but apparently it happens, or happened. JDW probably sell a lot more stuff from kegs than barrels.
But given the size of the company, they probably save more money with economy of scale, and their size and influence, than by fiddling sell-by dates. I'd say it certainly has happened in the past, but I doubt it does anymore - or to the same extent (like buying beer that goes off in two days). Now they seem to care about their reputation a bit more.
Individual pubs get their beer etc from the company (not the brewer), so if the company isn't buying end of line stock, then no pubs are getting it - an individual manager can't decide where to get his stock from and how old it will be. So if you have a bad pint in one JDW but not another, it's probably not because of end of line stock. There are lots of reasons why a pint might be bad - beer lines not cleaned is the most common.
they do it with their food too
but a mixed grill for steak club tuesday prices makes me not care at all
Regardless...
...Wetherspoons ale always has a drab, stale taste. And it all tastes the same.
Personally I think they just pour every single keg of ale they have into one big bucket underneath the pub and link all of the taps/lines to that...
i would have thought purchasing power would have had a lot to do with it
I was thinking maybe the english ones are different or something
because i've never had anything approaching a decent pint in one.
which lager do you drink?
tennent's
CASE CLOSED
:D
COUNCIL LAGER
Or as my dad says, 'I'll have a pint of Safety please.'
Safety lager. I can't wait to get my face round a pint of T. FIFTEEN DAYS.
Hideous, hideous stuff
(SIXTEEN DAYS)
Pint of McEwans at Xmas dude?
Yes! I am around from SIXTEEN DAYS from now until the 4th or something
This will never get read. I will text.
It's not true that you don't get bad pints there, course you do, BUT...
they have improved MASSIVELY over the last ten years.
They used to pretty much exclusively serve stale beer and microwaved, plasticy food, but they seem to have made a real effort to improve both. The steak nights, curry nights, breakfasts, etc, there are really good. Course, you could pay four times what they charge and eat somewhere fancier, or twice what they charge to make the same meals at home and sit on the internet alone like a ted, but what's the point?
They'll never shed the bad image completely, but people who get snobby about stuff like Wetherspoons nowadays really are utterly, utterly boring cunts. The only criticism i have of them nowadays is they're too busy. I like a quiet pint, and being served quickly, and you can't really get either of those things in most Wetherspoons.
Different pubs, different needs, innit. When i want to read the paper, or try a few new ales, or am having a quiet drink with one or two pals, somewhere nice is better. If you're in a bigger group, or it's near the end of the month and things are a bit tight, or you just want a bit of cheap, decent-ish grub, Spoons is more than alright.
They've definitely improved their food and drink.
They've had to- as much as the image of Spoons as divey hell holes has persisted, the truth is that they're increasingly the opposite. A lot of them are basically family restaurants with a pub tacked on now, using the vacuum in affordable restaurants as a way to get around how pubs are struggling generally.
Still think you get, on average, more farty end-of-barrel pints from there than you would anywhere comparable mind.
I wouldn't disagree with that, but...
you have to bear in mind that they'll simply shift a LOT more ale than anyone else.
Also, given the reputation of the brand, they probably have a higher turnover of staff, subsequently pay lower wages and therefore lower job satisfaction than better boozers.
Most of the pubs around me are new pubs staffed by beardy numpties who think they're in bands, and are full of Guardian-reading veggies, so they sort of have to look after their beer a bit better for several reasons, but mainly because they can't verbally or physically hold their own against anyone demanding a fresh pint.
who think they're in bands
:DDD
still laughing at this
Sounds like you need to move, mate.
This is probably my favourite post of yours in several years
:D
Theres been times in trof and soup kitchen
Where I've had to leave before I come to naked ripping the intestines out of the dickhead barstaff with my bare teeth
I don't know what it was like like 10 years ago
I tend not to get pints if I go there too. Mostly good if you're in a big group or after going canvassing or something.
i don't really have an opinion on this
They do decent food and have a wide selection of alcohol at affordable prices
what's not to like? They also offer warmth to the elderly in a safe environment which they may not find in their own homes.
I'm a big fan. Think it comes from living in a provincial hole
with few decent pubs serving cask in the town centre for a number of years. And it was massive and you could always get a seat, and it was cheap. Plus you can usually buy shome cheap hooky goods if that's your thing (although that may be mainly the Blackburn one)
I love Spoons, and will defend them to the death,
but they're just just as likely to serve a pint on the turn as anyone else. Doesn't matter how well they're kept (and I believe Spoons keep them very well), at some point they'll go. Of course, it's up to the punter to mention this to them and get a replacement, but, in summation, I have been served a bad pint in a Spoons more than once.
i will wade in here to defend them
as they are one of the few places in that london that you know you can get decent cider in as opposed to that mankners crap or worse, wrongbow
proper westons cider
mind you aspalls has been a bit more prominent on my last few visits so maybe other pubs are learning
I'd like to state my disapproval of the terms 'mankners' and 'wrongbow' here.
on what grounds?
they are vile approximations of cider
mankners for example is made from a belnd of 23 different apples & still manages to taste nothing like an apple
i went into the Peter Cushing wetherspoons in Whitstable t'other day
it was positively grandiose inside, felt like I should have worn a tie.
Coffee was good too. Chairs were comfortable, the atmosphere relaxed and the burger was tasty and reasonably priced. You should go there.
Peter Cushing as in Grand Moff Tarkin Peter Cushing?
Yes Peter Cushing as in Grand Moff Tarkin Peter Cushing
I think it's called the Peter Cushing because perhaps Peter Cushing is from there. Also it used to be a cinema i think and perhaps they would show Peter Cushing films there. There were a few pictures of Peter Cushing in the Peter Cushing too.
Alan Davies sang a song about Peter Cushing being from Whitstable on QI.
It went something like:
Peter Cushing is from Whitstable
I have seen him on a bicycle
I have seen him buying vegetables
Peter Cushing lives in Whitstable.
In Whitstable?
That's a great great pub
>>i went into the Peter Cushing wetherspoons in Whitstable t'other day<<
I think it's a fair bet to say it was probably in Whitstable.
You expect me to read whole posts
and not just the headline?
sometimes not even the headline apparently
Wetherspoons are good.
Always a decent selection of ales, I've never had a bad (off) one. I like how decent their spirit selection is and their prices too. None of this ordering a large Jack & coke and paying over a tenner - you can get some weird 50% abv rum and coke for less than a fiver.
Put it this way
you could do a lot worse out of a chain that has a pub in pretty much every town and city in the UK.
shocker
real ale people are still boring
Nah
no more boring or interesting than anyone else. Maybe a touch more interesting than someone who has a pint of Carling wherever they go I suppose.
nope definitely more boring
surprised your tastsbuds still haven't matured by your age, old man.
most peoples start working ale-wise in their early or mid-twenties.
I grew out of drinking beer
most people do.
that's what i'm saying, boss...
you should've naturally progressed off beer onto ale long ago.
don't tell me you're one of these househusbands who shares a bottle of pinot grigio with the Mrs whilst she watches X-Factor?
I mean beer/ale all that stuff
once you're over 30 it's not really the done thing to be drinking that
I think the issue is real ale snobs are boring
Fucking hell, so boring. Talking about toffee notes and a hoppy taste then sneering at people who enjoy lager, whilst chattign to their equally snobby mate about some fucking boring pint of dishwater they had somewhere in on the south coast.
Oh man, those cunts are boring. BORING BORING.
Real ale snobs can be boring
but only with each other. I have never come across one discussing the malty notes of their ale with a Carling drinker.
i like wetherspoons because i like carlsberg for 2 quid
.
genuinely surprised at how many people on here are defending them
not very indie, is it
When I go in I listen to a minidisc of badly drawn boy
Is that indie enough?
nope, not even close
http://www.hipstersuck.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/london-hipster-playing-vinyl.png
Not being indie is the new indie
we've all done the whole being 'indie' thing to death, so being un-indie is the only way to be indie.
We're in a recession
even indie hipsters have make cut backs somewhere
spending less on alcohol = having more to spend on ltd edition vinyl
To be fair, they probably sell more beer by indie breweries than most places.
Exactly, they do loads to help small breweries, as well as preserving interesting architecture and various other positives.
Do they put other pubs out of business? Not good one, I would think.
. (again)
look at Tim Martin
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44877000/jpg/_44877165_080717martin512b.jpg
look at that mullet
wetherspoons news is golden
There was a geuiine two page article in the Wetherspoon News
last year debunking the myth that drinking is bad for your health. Seriously. Like actually po-faced arguing against science. Amazing.
fix?
so everyone's either boring, snobbish, cheap or a hipster depending on their views of weatherspoons
makes sense
I like them
They've always a top selection of interesting drinks (the Rochester Castle in Stoke Newington has EFES on tap BOSH)
Also my brother works for them. He's had a pretty colourful life, he's struggled to get work for long periods, suffers from really severe dyslexia. Anyway, since he's been working there it's like a different person. He's on route to becoming a manager, and they've even paid for him to take maths classes and resit his GCSEs in the Heathrow Academy. Frankly they've invested more in him than the three schools he attended. They get the thumbs up from me.
Plus if you go to football away games it's sometimes impossible to avoid them
That's cool
They do have an actual career chain to be fair.
impossible to generalise about spoonies tbh
there's crap ones and there's really atmospheric ones (including one near the City that had all sorts of junk as furniture, wonder if it's still open)
long as they have cheap bottled cider (and they will) I'm happy tbh
not a vital one to nail yr colours to the mast about, really, tho the service can be a bit impersonal if that's what you care about
Usually when I go in Wetherspoons I'm not looking to make lifelong friends with the bar staff
but if you are then yes I am guessing you will be sorely disappointed as they ignore your attempts at small talk by moving on to the next customer, what a shower of bastards.
the one in tunbridge wells is an old opera house
and they even put opera on occasionally
They're certainly better than a lot of the lower-end pub chains
The sort you get on the edge of trading estates - Sizzling pubs, Fayre & Square, 2 for 1 etc. Generally the only problem I have with them is that they attract mouth-breathing scrotes who spend the whole time glaring at you for the heinous crime of you not being a mouth-breathing scrote like they are. Oh and they always have News 24 showing on a big screen so you end up with half the place staring slack-jawed at it reading the hopelessly inaccurate subtitles
Subthread, best & worst local 'spoons?
Best: The Sedge Lynn http://www.jdwetherspoon.co.uk/home/pubs/the-sedge-lynn
Only because it's so close to my old house I used to be able to sit there eating my breakfast whilst picking up my home WiFi. That felt comforting.
Worst: Moon Under Water (http://www.jdwetherspoon.co.uk/home/pubs/the-moon-under-water-manchester)
Pretty much the worst place on earth.
Best:
The Back of Beyond (Bobs, if you will): http://www.jdwetherspoon.co.uk/home/pubs/the-back-of-beyond, huge, quiz on a Wednesday, mostly students rather than your normal 'Spoons clientele cos it's on the edge of town
Worst: ummmm. The Monks' Retreat: http://www.jdwetherspoon.co.uk/home/pubs/the-monks-retreat. Stupid l-shaped layout, really busy with USUAL "spoons types" and the bar staff are rubbish.
The Moon Under Water's not that bad
At least it's in a weird cavernous building with internal balconies and hidden alcoves and stuff. You could get lost in there. The good 'spoons are the ones with weird buildings, for me.
Here's my nomination for worst: http://www.jdwetherspoon.co.uk/home/pubs/the-up-steps-inn/
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Best:
The Waterhouse - nice building, decent row of pubs, less riff raff, clean toilets.
Worst:
The Bishop Blaize - full of gobby Professional Redz. Only ever been in there to shit.
The Sedge Lynn - Brings down the tone of the otherwise friendly area. Full of skegs. Waste of a nice building.
waterhouse is very good actually
another thing you didn't mention is its excellent location. really handy for a quick drink when moving across town
i went to the waterhouse. was alright
Ah the quarterly DiS Wetherspoons debate...
...tedious as ever.
Almost as tedious as the answer I always give: Wetherspoons, overall, perform a positive function within the British pub landscape (which is diverse, multi-purpose and varied).
Most of the time I want to base my evening around going to a lovely pub which serves cracking beer. For this, Wetherspoons isn't an option.
Some of the time I want to pass through somewhere, grab some food, grab a pint and not be charged through the arse for it. For this, Wetherspoons provide an excellent option.
Also, I don't think you can discount money from the equation. Some people are poor, but want to enjoy going to the pub. For some, Wetherspoons are one of the only options. Sad but true.
unusually excellent post/username interface
I really want a drink now
yeah does anyone want to go to the pub?
plz
Sub-thread
http://www.jdwetherspoon.co.uk/home/pubs
how many Wetherspoons are there within a mile of where you live?
7 for me.
only 1
1 and it's a grotty, grotty shithole
Like I said, good beers, cheap, big selection. Fuck awful atmosphere.
5
never been in any of those though
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Wetherspoons is a bar for people who actually like talking to their friends.
no, you're thinking of the vic in withington
This joke requires specific knowledge
Which I don't have
replace with "any decent pub in any decent place"
still works
big fan of 'spoons
reliable, init.
Good timing.
I was in a Wetherspoons for 'lunch' the other day rather than the usual "quick cheap pint while waiting to meet someone", and remember thinking how varied and cheap the menu is, and most of it's decent grub, plus you've got a proper choice of draught stuff, bottles, spirits and wine. It's like the supermarket of pubs.
Also, The Montagu Pyke is mentioned above and their Curry night is marvellous. Proper Indian cooks and proper chutney.
Pretty much the only thing I dislike about Wetherspoons involves the daytime crowd of old men who have that old man smell, and any night where it's a sea of fake tanned legs and shit perfume.
the one at brighton marina is awesome
Lots of bars with lots of different drinks and a balcony which over looks the sea, great for a summers day. some of them are awful though
Sunday market in the car park and then weatherspoons breakfast.
Brilliant
Weatherspoons?
*hasn't read thread*
Yeah they're often devoid of atmosphere and I hate how they look like a Travelodge bar, but they usually have a really good selection.
GUYS
I JUST REMEMBERED THE MAP I MADE AFTER ANOTHER ONE OF THESE THREADS
http://goo.gl/maps/r1srS
freshly updated with the terrifying Leith one
That was the Wetherspoons ^ thread that I did.
Which is now deleted.
Why did it get deleted?!
Fucking mods. Going mental.
obviously it wasn't deleted on purpose
don't be silly
I love Wetherspoons
I actually miss them. The only ones I can think of having visited that I don't really like, are the one in my home town (The old Gaolhouse, in Winchester) and Central Bar in Cardiff. All the rest I can think of happy occasions in.
I didnt realise that Wetherspoons pubs were unpopular?
yes
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They aren't that cheap anymore, either.
A pint of Heineken (I know that it's expensive kit, like) will set you back about £4.10.
It does in the White Swan anyway.
it costs about 2 pounds something
yeah, like a wetherspoons once in a while
always a bit busy though.
real ale festival
that is all
The only time I go to Wetherspoons
is in airports. If there's a big wait for a flight I can normally fit in a 3-4 pint session. Expensive in airports though but it is just about the best option most airports.
i miss wetherspoons. Food is always brill and so cheap.
constantly go to the nearest approximation of a spoons in dublin but it's NOT THE SAME. <3 Spoons
spent a fair amount of time in spoons as a youth
not been to one for years
when i was at uni we used to go down on sunday evening for a pudding and some deal or no deal machine action