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I know the shops are weird and horrible, but seriously, WTF?
This doesn't surprise me.
Although, if I was super-rich (and being heterosexual), I doubt I would get away with a stunning all-female aircrew with a uniform of tight white t-shirts and expensive lingerie.
Chinese food makes me sick
for the Summer, for the summer
Had to go to their flagship London store on Saville Row, quite simply the worst place on earth.
The Downeaster Alexa by Billy Joel and that the old birds in the disabled seats raise their zimmers as I stand arms outstretched at the front.
The extraordinarily detailed manual...also requires crew to play Phil Collins' Take Me Home over the jet's intercom as the jet takes off on homeward bound flights...
good for him
She ended up settling out of court for £20k iirc. Ridiculous fucking story though, but sadly typical for A&F.
but he's not.
Every fucking fashion shop is a moral vacuum. It's a shitty industry that I can't believe people so willingly prop up.
It's my touchy subject I guess, I've got a real bee in my bonnet about it.
one of my friends, who's for all intents and purposes a really liberal and open-minded person and who defines as a feminist, is always buying magazines like Grazia and once said she finds it weird if any woman says she's not interested in fashion. It's a baffling moral fissure.
It's an industry/interest which tends to attract the trendy, liberal crowd the most yet the glaring moral bankruptcy, inherent sexism, deliberate-self-esteem-issue-perpetuation just gets ignored or overlooked.
It's a perfectly valid thing to be interested in, find aesthetic value in etc (although I don't get it myself) but there really should be more of a backlash over the many negatives of it all than there is I think.
between companies like Abercrombie & Fitch and the designers/labels people really interested in fashion/clothes will be interested in.
everybody (nearly everybody) wears clothes so it's impossible to completely avoid the industry as a whole but it's as easy to ignore certain parts as it is to avoid music you don't like or whatever.
People aren't stigmatised because of music preferences to anywhere near the same degree the fashion industry (and society as a whole) does because of clothes and appearance and I think it's a bit disingenuous to say you can just avoid it.
Like OceanStorm says, every single woman's magazine going is crammed full of rules for what to wear/not-wear eat/not-eat certain things and it's all done entirely on the inherently fickle whims of the industry. Make people feel bad about themselves so they buy things is the business model and it's working a treat despite the transparency if it.
I get the discrepancy between people who are properly into clothes/fashion and shops like this but that's not really the point I'm making, it's the masses that it affects the most and it's in a negative way in my opinion.
Every time I have this discussion with people I get increasingly shitter and actually making my point in any kind of succinct or clear way, apologies. This post is probably a rambling mess.
thinking about it more the music comparison is pretty crap.
people are stigmatised by the clothes they wear but they're an expression of your personality (especially in the UK - there's so many different looks in the UK and you don't really notice until you leave); they aren't necessarily influenced by the industry in their choices. obviously availability is a factor but it's possible to get anything you want if you try.
the mainstream fashion industry clearly does affect the media the way you say but those attitudes come from society and not only the fashion industry. it's clearly in their interests to promote conformity but that's the same of any business that wants customers.
this isn't exactly focused either
Or at least I wouldn't agree with in an ideal world. This concept that your clothes are an expression of your personality is something that I feel uneasy about. I don't doubt that it's a factor people consider when getting dressed in the morning but I still think it's something which is industry driven rather than a natural human progression. It's all linked in with itself, this idea that you're expressing your individuality is just another marketing tool if you ask me. The industry has had to get more subtle in recent years I guess so it's gone from telling people what to wear specifically to making people believe they're making a choice to express themselves of their own volition but with the same outcome of people unnecessarily changing their entire wardrobes every few months to keep the industry monetised.
I don't know, it's not a fully formed opinion or anything but I find it interesting on an anthropological level as much as anything. How did people express themselves and their personalities back in the day when there wasn't the vast array of clothing choices available?
*self made our altered stuff, for starters, but also genuine inventiveness with combos of stuff. **pretty much every cookie cutter look sported by pretty much everyone (not that that's a bad thing - it's only really a shame if people think that buying into a look is an act of creativity or genuine self-expression)
The industry has managed to convince people that by buying into whatever look they're currently peddling that they're being individual, expressing themselves, being creative etc
someone dressed in exactly the same way as thousands of others is expressing their desire to conform, whether they want to or not.
i think absolutely everything about a person's appearance reflects who they are, even if it's just in a very minor way. the length of their hair, the colours, the width of their trousers, the kind of shoe - i think you can glean some information about someone from all of those things and it often turns out to be pretty accurate in my experience.
even when you completely reject the fashion industry you still have to wear clothes and the clothes you choose reveal something, even if all it's revealing is that you really don't care about fashion.
modern youth culture has obviously been responsible for the vast majority of looks that exist but clothes have historically been used to reflect power structures etc. and you also had people like dandies and so on.
i don't think that you're necessarily reflecting your own personality but the personality you want to have, though. clothes can have a lot of power. obviously it's in the interest of modern companies to attach themselves to something aspirational which is the source of what's in advertising/media and so on.
I just find it depressing when coupled with how shitty and morally bankrupt an industry it is but then that applies to pretty much everything I guess...
and I feel it's really important to make a distinction between wanting to wear stuff you like and being in thrall to an industry that wants to make you feel worse about yourself in order to make money.
Like most people I spend a little bit of time choosing what to buy or wear and, consumerist as it might be, getting something nice clothes-wise gives me a little bit of a boost. What I have a problem with is the pressure exerted by the fashion industry (more on women than men, but certainly not exclusively) to fit in, to keep up with whatever tastemakers dictate is 'in', to buy new things every season, and to conform to ideals about beauty and body image.
I'm sure this is a bit of a redundant post in that I'm not actually saying anything that most people on here would disagree with really.
THE DRESS THAT INSTANTLY TAKES TWO POUNDS AWAY
8 GREAT LOOKS FOR THE CHRISTMAS PARTY SEASON
fuck off, you hateful bunch o' pricks.
Much better plane take-off theme
"Jeffries, 68, has previously faced investor pressure over excessive use of the company's jet. In 2010 the board agreed to pay him $4m to limit his use of the company jet to $200,000 worth of travel a year."
Wow, that board knows how to do some tough negotiation!
And they wonder why they have started losing money. Hmmm...
Either way my workmate got fined for pissing against it last week
"Abercrombie's general counsel, Rocky Robins"