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if someone went missing in your town / estate / village, would you try to help find them?
see story below:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-19795761
the BBC say that over 200 people have been helping overnight with the search effort.
I just don't know whether I'd get involved. I mean, on one hand, if there was anything to do to help then I would be happy to, but on the other hand i genuinely don't know whether i'd be of any help.
Sad story anyway, hope she's found but obvs fearing the worst for her and the family :(
I would
how could you not help?
because
(a) the chances of finding something are so slim
(b) you might unwittingly mess up a crime scene / interfere with evidence
(c) the kind of clues that are on offer in this scenario are well vague (e.g. a cream-coloured van) so could end up with people (not yourself) making false conclusions
Maybe I'm overthinking this a bit - I expect that if it was my community I would do what I could to help.
well that seems different
i thought you were referring to a situation where people have actively been requested to help with a search. if people thought it wasn't in the best interests of the situation for me to go faffing around in some woods then yes, i wouldn't. but if they needed a lot of bodies to search a lot of land then, well, you just have to
In London (potentially some other major cities), probably not.
But in the smaller/rural communities something like this probably has more resonance as it happens less often.
yeah, course.
If the police said they needed volunteers to help, then yes.
But not otherwise. In some situations there's a risk of doing more harm than good.
I guess I would if I lived in a little village or community of sorts, can't imagine that being the case where I live now though.
But I do wonder how effective these things are - are they hoping to find her in a treehouse somewhere, forgetting to come home?
yeah exactly - it's so unlikely to be effective but i guess you'd want to do something to feel like you were helping
Its a well-worn cliche, but this really is
every parent's worst nightmare.
why the fuck was a 5 yr old out playing at 7.30 pm?
...but yes, i would help in a search.
from what ive read
the last sighting was of her getting into a van..
vans tend to move - so checking in the local village would be pointless...
but in another scenario where someone was just missing Id help
^this
Also, the police will have checked the register and they'll have a fairly short shortlist of likely candidates. Much as I hate to say it, they'll also know that children abducted in this way are only found alive in the rarest of cases. Simply awful :(
I hate this 'if you had kids you'd understand' kind of slogan that parents trot out
I know that once you have achild your brain chemistry seems to change irrevrisbly, but thta's not to sya that non parnets can't understand. It's a very lazy argument. I have enough empathy and life experience to be able to put myself in a parent's shoes and be equally shocked, appalled and terrified as if I was a parent myself.
Also, there was no need for your patronising and sexist use of 'love'. You're a bit of a silly prick, aren't you?
there there pet
let it all out.
(yes he is a prick)
I'm not so sure
whilst it is a lazy phrase and can't just be applied to everything there is an element of truth in it, particularly in circumstances like this.
You're probably right, and if someone like you said it, I wouldn't even flinch
I just didn't like the cut of Mr Sheeeeeeeit's jib. As I said, I find the asusmption that non-parents cannot have empathy pretty insulting.
depends if there was anything decent on tv that night
Is it wrong
that the main thing I thought when I saw the news of this girl was how all the newsreaders (and just people in general) would get on pronouncing Machynlleth?
Sub-thread: has your town/estate/village ever banded together for a common cause?
Once near where I live there was a huge march in memory of a boy who was fatally stabbed (and in protest against knife crime), and it seemed like the entire town was out for that.
nah,
too busy.
Yeah, if it was requested and organised by the police.
I wouldn't if it was to be part of a rag-tag group of busy-bodies and vigilanties doing stuff off their own back and potentially screwing up the police investigation.
I dunno
I bet it is kind of fun to be part of a self-righteous mob.
Then when they arrest someone you get to be on telly rushing and screaming at the police van.
If they needed help, yes.
But if they didn't ask for it, probably not.
I've bought a pitchfork and wrapped a paraffin soaked rag around a stick for just such an opportunity
If I lived there then I would definately volunteer
Also, although I am totally against state sanctioned capital punishment.
If I found the person/s that abducted her (for certain) and if they had killed her, then I would definately kill them If I had the opportunity, would also support the parents if they did.
I understand that the state would want to stop this, but I think that it is understandable that personal satisfaction of proof of guilt is a different thing from that of a procedural cour of law
Oi! Theoretical abducter! NO!
yes I know that there is no point to my rent-a-mob mentality
but then someone in this thread said that they are rarely found alive in these cases, and then you see the picture of how small she is, and then you realise that you cant allow someone get away with this.
Its really hard to not be cliched and use the word monster, to describe the people who do this sort of thing
because you cant see them as anything but that, and to have the feeling that such monsters must die
Everyone says they would happily kill a murderer
but in reality if it came down to it, they wouldn't. Hard to prove obvs.
irrelevant
because I am commenting on my feelings, to lie about what you feel would be insincere
I guess that many people might do the same and we call them idiots
but often what we mean is that we do not criticise their feelings, but any possible ignorance that has led them to the position to have those feelings
(witness the witless morons commenting on controversial Youtube videos....they seem to get awfully aggressively patriotic against other countries criticism on there)
I'd keep an eye out
maybe look under the bed and in the cupboard and stuff