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cos i don't think i'll watch any of it anymore, but if it's yikes as in good yikes then that'll be nice
I thought that was brilliantly handled. It even managed to make River Song almost live up to her potential as a character.
And the ending, with Amelia on her suitcase and the Tardis sound - we'd seen that before, hadn't we? Very nice.
Usually I don't mind that it makes no sense but it was boring, cheesey and lacking in peril. And the ginger bird looked really gormless instead of really fit.
But I liked the general mood of it.
never really felt worried when *SPOILER* they jumped from the building, so was a bit disappointed that that was going to be the end, without any real tensions. So when Rory got sent back, and you saw the tombstone again, that really hit home.
Bit confused about why they're creating a fixed timepoint and why the Doctor can't go back to see/help them any more, but it worked in the same way as the whole Rose thing did with Ten, knowing that everyone is actually fine and well but are just trapped, unable to see each other ever again.
So yeah, best of this series by far, and up there with the best of the Eleventh Doctor episodes
How does he go back to see Amelia? Timey-wimey indeed.
Like, he can go and see young Amy and re-do all the stuff they've already done together, but can't change how things end or do any new stuff with her. That make sense?
where they were now trapped?
for some reason.
Can't they go somewhere else (and will move in time anyway). And River has the vortex thing.
I guess it's never worth thinking about these things too much.
which makes me think we're missing something
when he wants to do an episode which significantly bumps along the storyline - he kind of squeezes too much into an episode, and at a relentless pace. As a result the actual background story of the episode loses out, and the episode is breathlessly sped through leaving some holes along the way. He plasters over fixes but it doesn't really suffice - can't Amy + Rory go on holiday to Washington or Hawaii in the 1940's or 50's and meet up with the doctor then? The doctor can't visit mid-late 20th century New York ever again?
I enjoyed it though.
Moffat is so much better when he writes episodes without overall story storylines - e.g. The girl in the fireplace. When he's just telling a story and not having to worry about where the characters are in their overriding storyline. In that respect it's a real shame that he's the head honcho of the show, because nowadays almost every episode of his is a story-related episode.
until they die I think. They age but time doesn't move forward. Something like that.
They don't have to go sit in the creepy hotel, do they? Isn't that destroyed by the paradox, even if Rory and Amy have to go back?
I think that sending people back through the hotel/prison/farm is what had been happening but that was destroyed in the para-para-paradox and so rory and amy just ended up going back to 1938 and started living in normal time from there.
Last time he was in the 30s...he can make bare wedge, Back to the Future 2 style.
so that would be 1988 and 1993 at the latest. I can't even recall if they're meant to be different ages.
but cos Amy wrote the chapter headline "amelia's last farewell" the dr can't see her again. Which is tremendously stupid. If she'd written "amelia's temporary farewell" all would be well.
However I thought large chunks of that was great. Rivers best episode since her first, one of the few where I believed Amy actually liked Rory and some nice touches, like the Doc never reading the last page.
Lots didn't make sense, the slo mo music bit was a bit cringey and it was the least scary the Angels have ever been BUT fuck it, nice way to end their arc. And I had a little cry.
and the rest was a bit of a rush to get there. Things like the collector and the peril in old new York could have been developed more ans I think the ending would have been stronger without the bluff.
River was much less annoying than usual but I feel like her timeline has become so muddled now that they could just tell us any old shit about who and where and when she is and we'd just have to accept it.
I do like that they've done a reset and made it so the doctor isn't the most famous person in the universe anymore. Watching old serials on VirginOD the doctor not being as much of a know it all and everyone not fawning over him has been a nice change of pace, hopefully he'll be a bit more of an unknown now that he's erased himself from various databases around space and time.
"Things like the collector and the peril in old new York could have been developed more ans I think the ending would have been stronger without the bluff."
Also agree re the doctor erasing all knowledge about himself. It will be interesting to see how well that can be kept up during future episodes - all future Sontarans, Cybermen, Daleks, The Silents episodes are going to involve them meeting him anew unaware of the rivalry (and therefore the drama) they have?
in a way they never bothered with in the older serials.
So I'm glad they've found a way to retcon their way out of the corner they'd painted themselves into.
In the classic series the Doctor and crew skipped through time so they landed at various points in the history of the Daleks or Cybermen or whoever and the main issue was what happened in the context of that particular serial or perhaps Doctor. The reboot seems to drive with quite a linear narrative so that the progress of the daleks for example has been constant throughout the run. Meaning that the new ones were always aware of their history with him no matter what time they met but that wasn't such an issue in the more broadly non-linear plotting of the classics. I'd like a return to that sort of thing, not that we'll get it.
because I get the impression that a lot of the weighty storyline arcs and mythology and all that jazz are put in to placate the rabid fanboys who like to spunk themselves silly at any additional information about the Dr Who 'universe', but who are also the most hard to please, overanalytical bunch of nerds this side of Star Trek.
of Dr. Who since the "reboot" but the episode Blink was one of the best bits of TV I've seen for a very long time.
does this episode stand up or is it just going to retrospectively spoil Blink for me?
'Blink' is one of them. The other is 'The Girl in the Fireplace' - both by Moffat before he took over.
As you may have read above - now Moffat has taken over the producing of the series, his episodes get a bit cluttered with the overlying story.. so in short, no this doesn't stand up to Blink.
There was another episode with the Weeping Angels in - a 2 parter in Series 5 called "The Time of Angels" / "Flesh and Stone" of which the first part is very good, and the 2nd part is fun but not as high quality.
I think the episodes Moffat wrote in his first series are all excellent, with the exception of 'The Beast Below'.
The last series felt really weird and too wrapped up in its own strange plots.
This series has been fairly mediocre although I did enjoy this episode and the first one a fair amount.
and thought last week was great up until the resolution. But otherwise I'd completely agree with your above assessment.
some of the matt smith stuff has disappeared up its own arse with the baby and clones and the robot that could look like anyone and the doctor's almighty super action squad and basically most of rivers stuff.
and coming right after all the monsters had teamed up on him just before that to put him in a box or not
man I cried during that one
It doesn't fuck with the mythology of the Angels or do anything to take the shine off that episode. It's just not as strong as that episode.
then this won't either
was complete gayballs?
Outstanding badness! :D
the angels are still fucking terrifying and by far the best baddie from the 9/10/11 series. Good to see Mike McShane. Not seen him since he was sweating all over Whose line is it Anyway.
But they were terrifying in this one
One of my favourites of this series, can't wait for The Doctor to come back at Christmas...
My guess is the new companion is an ansestor of Oswin.
It seems a bit pointless though (especially as the Doctor never actually saw what Oswin looked like as she was a dalek so it'll be ludicrous if he recognises her) so I'm hoping it's a bit better than that.
My guess (and possibly obvious assumption):
The new companion will be the first of the present day companions to not be from the 21st century.
Interesting as a companion from the future would be, I think they'll stick to the present day, to keep a familiar grounding point for the audience.
and/or a none human one can be fun
and a lot of the new serieses too, right?
Peter Davison is a great Doctor and its a classic story they've got up
The Patrick Troughton serial is excellent
The Tom Baker one is very silly (and possibly a Douglas Adams creation)
The Sylvester McCoy one is poorly written but it does have Ace in it
The Colin Baker one is a great story and Colin Baker doesn't even spoil it too much
John Pertwee is one of my favourite doctors but i prefer his unit stories
The movie is 'meh'
I haven't watched the one with the first Doctor yet
The End of Time was a bit of an anti-climax
discovered some new feelings upon seeing peri
they better give me more backstory so i feel for her cos right now she seems just really perky and fake.
That would've broken me. Just that reading and storyboard was almost enough.
That's amazing. I'll never know why they didn't think THAT would be a good way to end things...