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is a Disser too.
A friend tweeted it to Mem, Jag and Tom this morning.
glasses, cardy, ghost of a thousand shirt, what more evidence do you need?
Pretty interesting blog post by him from a few months ago too http://jeremyayremusic.com/2012/05/19/you-hit-me-just-like-heroin/ Of course it's up to the judgement of the media to decide if it's related to his current predicament.
(might also be a band he likes).
He screams DiS tbf
So he played in a shit venue, got nothing and the promoter wasn't even there.
This has nothing to do with this thread.
Unless we blame the promoter for the following events. Let's do that.
This is a vitriolic and bizarre tweet to him
there's been about 600 of those
and eats cockroaches to fuel his sick perversions.
this wouldn't even be a news story, let alone frontpage news.
nice of The Sun to give out his Twitter address.
and the fact The Sun or whichever 'loid this was, probably doesn't run a news story every time a teacher and a student get it on/elope.
Jonathon Ross met his lady-wife (who co-wrote Kickass) when she was 16, etc http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Goldman the boy in Kick-ass is now married to a lady 23 years old than him, etc http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Taylor-Johnson
Is it illegal to have sex with a 16-year-old?
And, what if she's 16 tomorrow? Although I guess that would be less of a news story if that was the case.
Man Has Relationship With 15-Year-Old is a news story, because it's illegal (assuming it's a sexual relationship).
Teacher Has Relationship With 16-Year-Old is a news story, because it's illegal.
Teacher Runs Away With Missing 15-Year-Old is definitely a news story.
Position of responsibility etc. etc.
It just seems like a tabloid launching a lynch mob.
Trouble is the tabloids are tricksy buggers, and only do this when there is almost certainly some foulplay involved (probably learned from being tits after Hillsborough). So no matter how sensationalist they get, they are still technically correct.
What's your point?
and it would still be in the news.
just grounds for dismissal/divorce
Even though the age of consent is 16. It's because the teacher is in a position of trust.
I think its only illegal if under the age of consent. Its definitely going to be against school and teaching policies but probably not a law.
Seems weird though.
Does it count if they're from a different school?
Otherwise it could just be any other adult.
and we never slept together so doesn't really count. I gave him a shit hand job under a blanket at his house.
Introduced as part of the bill that lowered the homosexual age of consent, I think. Can't be arsed to check.
In 2001, the law was changed to make it illegal for teachers to engage in sexual activity with pupils at their school aged under 18.
Someone around here must be a teacher who can tell us. Scagden seems to be mysteriously busy.
Duty of care
Just saying it happens a fair bit with people who are a few months older (and often with much bigger age gaps)
if you're talking about a 20 year old student shagging some 55 year old tutor, then no it wouldn;t be, but the person would be an adult, it isn't the age difference, it is that she is a child and he isn;t and that he abused a position of trust.
Can't say I'm surprised... the evil bastard.
i don't find a 30-year-old and a 15-year-old having some sort of relationship THAT outrageous, even if it's a sexual one, which we don't know it is.
Course, it's a bit sad on his part, and he should know better, and ought to be sacked, but i don't necessarily think it makes him a bad man in this case, or that it warrants a long custodial sentence, providing she's safe and returns home, of course.
Obviously, were she much younger, yeah, but she isn't. When i was around her age, most of the girls who either went to my school or lived locally were involved with older men, and though i'd want his head on a platter if i was her dad, it's just something that happens.
Also, there's generally a clearly different attitude towards these sort of things depending on the gender of the elder party. A 15-year-old lad having a bit with a 30-year-old female teacher would be deemed a much less serious affair and even broadly trivialised. This is almost certainly down to female privilege.
So yeah, i repeat, not justifying what he's done, if he indeed has, he shouldn't be allowed to teach, but he's hardly Fred West, and a bit of perspective's probably needed.
but it's a duty fo care. You sign up to be a teacher, you can't do that.
It's shit but them the rules. He should have also waited a year. That's all, then it would have been a lot less taboo. A fuck lot less.
But do I think he's an evil monster? Not at all. He's probably in love. But he is in the wrong and that's the law. THE LAW.
I should have just this'd it
But I said it far less eloquently.
in his mind he's clearly a 'musician' first, and teaching seems to be something of a stopgap before penning that seven figure deal with Universal.
Its not trivialized.
I think the reason this is so serious is because she's a minor and is essentially missing in another country regardless of her affair with her teacher.
That's not evidence of some sort of reverse sexism (it feeds into bog standard sexism quite comfortably) but it's definitely true.
if it was the other way round, it would definitely still be in the news.
teacher/student relationships begin every year. Most of them don't make that the press, regardless of the genders involved. Don't think you can say any of them will 'definitely' be in the news.
'GET YOUR END AWAY BOYO'
And the women who work there are fine to work for a newspaper that has Page3, so they don't say anything untoward.
my bf when i was 16 was nearing 30. A couple of years off. Didnt think it was odd then. Looking back still dont really think it was that odd.
He wasnt a teacher though. The guy should have really known better.
cos, like, presumably his wife reads his blog and would be like "uh darling, what's this?"
2) can only imagine she's pregnant. why else would he not just wait until she was 16? (not a rhetorical question)
I didn't know that.
I literally just knew the headline. Details: Who needs them? My snap judgement is enough.
In the banner headline?
because the French are all paedos?
Seems like the only logical conclusion to draw.
that's pretty close to france
was worried that the air was infected down there.
But where do you go to to do your likin'
When you're alone in your bed
Tell me the thoughts that surround you
I want to look inside your head, yes i do. yes i do. yes i do.
Isn't that a FRENCH song?
No further questions.
tate & lyle
Stop being semi-paedos.
Isn't that like being semi-pregnant?
This guy must be a real sad case.
on a daily basis.
judging purely from the information that's been published about him they could well be closer in terms of maturity than people might assume.
The girl in that (who is in a relationship with an older man) is supposed to be mature and precocious, but she's still a fucking earache.
Does anyone want me to get any cigarettes or booze while I'm over here?
he looks more like a DiS version of Leighton Baines
what his chocolate preferences are
So basically, he married in April 2011. Started the affair in January this year, so much for marriage bliss.
Pack it in!
PACK IT IN
stop messing about and bring her back. stop mucking around.
This will probably sort it all out to be honest.
pack it in
has something to tell him, only if he accepts the follow though!
Jumped straight in on the first track. Starts 'I was afraid someone would catch us...'
"Let The Wrong One In"
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oh just done more detective work. Isnt this her? http://soundcloud.com/mermaiddimples
she favourited a track called Starsigns of his.. which is pretty creepy ''hiding my true feelings... blah blah blah'' being in my livingroom is the closet i can be to you' or something along those lines.
i should be a detective
good work Detective Bass.
isnt this like.. evidence or something?
how long it's been going on. An insight to what way they were thinking.. Don't know. But this is the sort of stuff you read about. So surely someone needs to know about it.
I reckon, if you and I can find this stuff, the police have probably already found it.
does someone want to do it? as i don't really know where to start
anyone over the age of 19 who goes out with a 16 year old is a paedo
Used to go out with a girl who lived in Ringmer, which by all accounts is a not particularly big village. Maybe she knows him. Or maybe I saw him at a Ghost Of A Thousand gig.
"In a separate incident it emerged that a retired Church of England priest facing child sex charges is a former chairman of the governors."http://www.channel4.com/news/megan-stammers-council-was-investigating-relationship
and gives us a quick geography lesson
'Road network would quickly take them into Belgium, Holland, Germany and beyond' So France DOES have roads leading to other countries, fuck me.
i doubt he'll realise
He shouldn't be going out with her and should have known better. But I can't help feeling that a 30 year old going out with a 15 year old is hardly PAEDOGEDDON.
There were a couple of relationships between teachers and pupils at the school I went to and they were just tolerated quietly. I know of a teacher and pupil who started their relationship when she was 15 and they ended up getting married (and as far I know are still together). I think it's more prevalent and less shocking than the general media reaction would have us believe.
He's an adult authority figure taking advantage of someone who, however mature she might seem for her age, is essentially little more than a child.
that's pretty paedo-y
Without knowing the personalities and desires of those involved, how can we assume what the dynamics of power within that relationship are?
1) I'm not the bloke in the news
2) Teaching 15 year-olds for an hour is bad enough let alone spending all day with one...blimey
3) This has to be the worst career move I can think of
All the schoolkids where I work are pretty freaked out / grossed out about the concept of running away with a maths teacher - can't blame them either! On the whole I agree with some of the posts above that the teacher in question has not committed unspeakable crimes, but at the end of the day he was trusted with teaching someone's child and instead he elopes to France with her - I feel really sorry for his wife and the kid's parents. Once he's out of jail he's got stacking shelves as the only viable career choice...what is he thinking???
everything you choose to do that will impact your career is a career move
If this was an alpha male PE teacher, would everyone be quite so diplomatic? Or is the man's profile a little too close for comfort...
But say they avoid being found until well after her 16th birthday, he would obviously already been struck off and she would be of legal age. Would his warrant still be void?
where sex with 14 year olds is legal (i think - won't be googling it to check)
18 in California and Florida*! Good work, virgins.
*16 if you're 23 or younger.
So would still be valid
the filthy bastards.
Has she commented on it/been questioned or anything?
Which reads, "A demo of a new song, about falling in love with someone you shouldn't... How ironic. Recorded with the help of the lovely Chris Startup!!!," and was uploaded a month ago, I'm going to guess his marriage had been in trouble for a while. Obviously she can't have been expecting it was a 15 year old girl he was falling for.
WELL WHY DONT YOU MARRY HER
(after she gets divorced)
They have the sexiest teenagers, as well.
So you can tap-ass sooner there. BOOM!
They are mainly too busy pushing donkeys out of provincial church towers during their formative years go be making las whoopie.
Must I issue a Gob Bluth stlye "COME ON!"?
But do any of you wear green cords?
I say invest.
wouldn't be shredding this guy for being 30 and liking Alkaline Trio and Saves the Day
@jeremyayre How do you feel you peadophile, all over the news!!! Disgusting!!! Your wife was way hotter anyway, you stupid guy!!!
Girls age: Status of Bloke in his late 20s that goes out with her.
17:Bit creepy mate
<16: YOU'RE A BAD MAN
16-17: KEEP IT QUIET
18-20 : BACK O' THE NET!
With enough shoving and lubrication, anywhere.
Made me long for a delete function as soon as I pressed enter.
Good one liner.
now they can stop plastering her massive annoying face all over the papers.
I'm sure it would offend your delicate sensibilities.
and we turn ourselves around.
That's what it's all about?
seems too obvious doesn't it
Got nicked. FOR BEING IN LOVE.
will he become the Burzum of (alledgedly) paedo-indie?
stick that in yer DiS.xls chum
he is absolutely FUCKED. A wet indie cunt in prison for under age sex? His brains are goinna be all over the wall in a week
Firstly, you're assuming he's been boshing her. He might not have.
Even if he has, i'd be surprised if he got anything more than a short custodial sentence.
There was a case relatively recently where a female schoolteacher fled with a 15-year-old boy, and she received a suspended sentence. Assuming he's not had sex with her, anything much more severe than a similar sentence would only add further fire to those who think that the law is inherintly misandrist.
I suppose this could change but it's not a foregone conclusion that he'll get a particularly harsh sentence, especially one that has to be served somewhere, erm, naughty.
Could just be a school trip that was incredibly poorly subscribed to
' i cant wait to get your behind closed doors'
i doubt this is to do some extra tutoring on multiplication and fractions
Even if she was 16 or 17 he'd go to prison as he's her teacher. FACT. Also, there's statutory rape as she's 15. And abduction. And the high profile of the case (does matter).
They'll throw the fucking book at him.
winner gets a signed copy of the new Swans album.
i'll say 2 years, out in 10 months.
saying that, they have to prove they did indeed 'do the deed' if not he'll only be charged with kidnapping a minor, no previous convictions I say = 18months.
because they are in no permission to give an acceptible degree of consent
Without that, it's 'just' abduction of a minor. Which is obviously pretty serious in itself.
Thing is whether he goes to prison or not, his life is utterly fucked. His teaching career's destroyed, he's going to be on the sex offenders' register for life, he's never going to get a job working with children (or probably a job with any responsibility) ever again and pretty much everyone knows his name, his face and what he's done and I'm guessing that, even if he ever had a chance of making it as a musician, that's probably gone too. Facing the real world and trying to adjust to a life where he's widely known as a sex offender is probably going to be as tough, if not tougher, than any prison sentence he got.
If only he'd directed some films, eh?
- Mr President, you'd better look at this....there's a man on the run with an underage girl in our country.
- How would arresting him affect the general feeling towards Cannes Film Festival?
- Not at all, Sir.
- Arrest him immediately.
The prison nativity is written and rehearsals have already started
i presume mehodor and co. are trolling, but even still..
15 is really young
Fuck me! You'll be telling me the Pope's Catholic next.
'He looked sallow and downcast, his eyes blank and lifeless. He looked bedraggled, unshaven and completely dispirited'.