and the fact The Sun or whichever 'loid this was, probably doesn't run a news story every time a teacher and a student get it on/elope.
Jonathon Ross met his lady-wife (who co-wrote Kickass) when she was 16, etc http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Goldman the boy in Kick-ass is now married to a lady 23 years old than him, etc http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Taylor-Johnson
Trouble is the tabloids are tricksy buggers, and only do this when there is almost certainly some foulplay involved (probably learned from being tits after Hillsborough). So no matter how sensationalist they get, they are still technically correct.
if you're talking about a 20 year old student shagging some 55 year old tutor, then no it wouldn;t be, but the person would be an adult, it isn't the age difference, it is that she is a child and he isn;t and that he abused a position of trust.
i don't find a 30-year-old and a 15-year-old having some sort of relationship THAT outrageous, even if it's a sexual one, which we don't know it is.
Course, it's a bit sad on his part, and he should know better, and ought to be sacked, but i don't necessarily think it makes him a bad man in this case, or that it warrants a long custodial sentence, providing she's safe and returns home, of course.
Obviously, were she much younger, yeah, but she isn't. When i was around her age, most of the girls who either went to my school or lived locally were involved with older men, and though i'd want his head on a platter if i was her dad, it's just something that happens.
Also, there's generally a clearly different attitude towards these sort of things depending on the gender of the elder party. A 15-year-old lad having a bit with a 30-year-old female teacher would be deemed a much less serious affair and even broadly trivialised. This is almost certainly down to female privilege.
So yeah, i repeat, not justifying what he's done, if he indeed has, he shouldn't be allowed to teach, but he's hardly Fred West, and a bit of perspective's probably needed.
I think the reason this is so serious is because she's a minor and is essentially missing in another country regardless of her affair with her teacher.
teacher/student relationships begin every year. Most of them don't make that the press, regardless of the genders involved. Don't think you can say any of them will 'definitely' be in the news.
cos, like, presumably his wife reads his blog and would be like "uh darling, what's this?"
2) can only imagine she's pregnant. why else would he not just wait until she was 16? (not a rhetorical question)
But where do you go to to do your likin'
When you're alone in your bed
Tell me the thoughts that surround you
I want to look inside your head, yes i do. yes i do. yes i do.
she favourited a track called Starsigns of his.. which is pretty creepy ''hiding my true feelings... blah blah blah'' being in my livingroom is the closet i can be to you' or something along those lines.
how long it's been going on. An insight to what way they were thinking.. Don't know. But this is the sort of stuff you read about. So surely someone needs to know about it.
Used to go out with a girl who lived in Ringmer, which by all accounts is a not particularly big village. Maybe she knows him. Or maybe I saw him at a Ghost Of A Thousand gig.
and gives us a quick geography lesson
'Road network would quickly take them into Belgium, Holland, Germany and beyond' So France DOES have roads leading to other countries, fuck me.
He shouldn't be going out with her and should have known better. But I can't help feeling that a 30 year old going out with a 15 year old is hardly PAEDOGEDDON.
There were a couple of relationships between teachers and pupils at the school I went to and they were just tolerated quietly. I know of a teacher and pupil who started their relationship when she was 15 and they ended up getting married (and as far I know are still together). I think it's more prevalent and less shocking than the general media reaction would have us believe.
He's an adult authority figure taking advantage of someone who, however mature she might seem for her age, is essentially little more than a child.
1) I'm not the bloke in the news
2) Teaching 15 year-olds for an hour is bad enough let alone spending all day with one...blimey
3) This has to be the worst career move I can think of
All the schoolkids where I work are pretty freaked out / grossed out about the concept of running away with a maths teacher - can't blame them either! On the whole I agree with some of the posts above that the teacher in question has not committed unspeakable crimes, but at the end of the day he was trusted with teaching someone's child and instead he elopes to France with her - I feel really sorry for his wife and the kid's parents. Once he's out of jail he's got stacking shelves as the only viable career choice...what is he thinking???
But say they avoid being found until well after her 16th birthday, he would obviously already been struck off and she would be of legal age. Would his warrant still be void?
Which reads, "A demo of a new song, about falling in love with someone you shouldn't... How ironic. Recorded with the help of the lovely Chris Startup!!!," and was uploaded a month ago, I'm going to guess his marriage had been in trouble for a while. Obviously she can't have been expecting it was a 15 year old girl he was falling for.
Firstly, you're assuming he's been boshing her. He might not have.
Even if he has, i'd be surprised if he got anything more than a short custodial sentence.
There was a case relatively recently where a female schoolteacher fled with a 15-year-old boy, and she received a suspended sentence. Assuming he's not had sex with her, anything much more severe than a similar sentence would only add further fire to those who think that the law is inherintly misandrist.
I suppose this could change but it's not a foregone conclusion that he'll get a particularly harsh sentence, especially one that has to be served somewhere, erm, naughty.
Even if she was 16 or 17 he'd go to prison as he's her teacher. FACT. Also, there's statutory rape as she's 15. And abduction. And the high profile of the case (does matter).
saying that, they have to prove they did indeed 'do the deed' if not he'll only be charged with kidnapping a minor, no previous convictions I say = 18months.
Without that, it's 'just' abduction of a minor. Which is obviously pretty serious in itself.
Thing is whether he goes to prison or not, his life is utterly fucked. His teaching career's destroyed, he's going to be on the sex offenders' register for life, he's never going to get a job working with children (or probably a job with any responsibility) ever again and pretty much everyone knows his name, his face and what he's done and I'm guessing that, even if he ever had a chance of making it as a musician, that's probably gone too. Facing the real world and trying to adjust to a life where he's widely known as a sex offender is probably going to be as tough, if not tougher, than any prison sentence he got.
probably
This was my first thought when I read the story too.
I swear that bloke from The Great British Bake Off
is a Disser too.
has he got a Ghost of a Thousand tshirt on?
Yes he has....
A friend tweeted it to Mem, Jag and Tom this morning.
Is it because he wears glasses?
glasses, cardy, ghost of a thousand shirt, what more evidence do you need?
And he's in a band and has a blog
Pretty interesting blog post by him from a few months ago too http://jeremyayremusic.com/2012/05/19/you-hit-me-just-like-heroin/ Of course it's up to the judgement of the media to decide if it's related to his current predicament.
They seem to have decided already that it is
Hang the Bastard
(might also be a band he likes).
and looks like a virgin
his awkwardness, scruffy hair and pasty 'didn't leave my bedroom until i was 30' skin
shoulder bag, teacher.
He screams DiS tbf
Scagden?
all joking aside, there is literally no way that he doesn't have a DiS profile
one of his gigs was plugged here
http://drownedinsound.com/community/boards/announcements/1795262
Dead or Alive promotions
So he played in a shit venue, got nothing and the promoter wasn't even there.
This has nothing to do with this thread.
Unless we blame the promoter for the following events. Let's do that.
as fishplums pointed out on twitter, this could be a pretty good search term to follow the next couple of days
https://twitter.com/i/#!/search/realtime/%40jeremyayre
currently it's the equivalent of an early 00's "hang all peederfiles" impromptu demo
fucking hell
https://twitter.com/StevenMcGowan89/status/250171658755796992
huh?!
BUMP
This is a vitriolic and bizarre tweet to him
http://i47.tinypic.com/6dwpw9.jpg
Bet you he was the guy who started the thread about how young was too young to date someone.
*the* thread?
there's been about 600 of those
All started by that guy I bet.
I heard he's a monster
and eats cockroaches to fuel his sick perversions.
eats *SOAWJO
That was songs_about_ducking
He can't be a DiSer, he appears to have succeeded in getting the girl.
Ouch.
if she was 17
this wouldn't even be a news story, let alone frontpage news.
nice of The Sun to give out his Twitter address.
#PAEDOGEDDON
this was a comment about media sensationalism
and the fact The Sun or whichever 'loid this was, probably doesn't run a news story every time a teacher and a student get it on/elope.
Jonathon Ross met his lady-wife (who co-wrote Kickass) when she was 16, etc http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Goldman the boy in Kick-ass is now married to a lady 23 years old than him, etc http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Taylor-Johnson
Was Jonathan Ross her teacher?
Is it illegal to have sex with a 16-year-old?
Nope
And, what if she's 16 tomorrow? Although I guess that would be less of a news story if that was the case.
Well the point is, Man Has Relationship With 16-Year-Old isn't a news story.
Man Has Relationship With 15-Year-Old is a news story, because it's illegal (assuming it's a sexual relationship).
Teacher Has Relationship With 16-Year-Old is a news story, because it's illegal.
Teacher Runs Away With Missing 15-Year-Old is definitely a news story.
It's more to so with him being a teacher and her being a student tbh
Position of responsibility etc. etc.
True
It just seems like a tabloid launching a lynch mob.
Oh it's definitely a lynch mob
Trouble is the tabloids are tricksy buggers, and only do this when there is almost certainly some foulplay involved (probably learned from being tits after Hillsborough). So no matter how sensationalist they get, they are still technically correct.
*16
Yeah, and if she was 30 people would probably be happy for the guy
What's your point?
He's her teacher, so it would still be illegal and would still be wrong
and it would still be in the news.
Not illegal
just grounds for dismissal/divorce
I'm pretty sure it's illegal for a teacher to have a relationship with a student who is under 18
Even though the age of consent is 16. It's because the teacher is in a position of trust.
I don't think thats the case
I think its only illegal if under the age of consent. Its definitely going to be against school and teaching policies but probably not a law.
Oh hang on, I've just looked and it is!
Seems weird though.
Does it count if they're from a different school?
It probably has to be the same school
Otherwise it could just be any other adult.
What if the teacher is only 15?
meow, are you not-so-subtly telling us that your boyfriend when you were 16 was breaking the law?
I used to go out with someone older but he wasn't a teacher
and we never slept together so doesn't really count. I gave him a shit hand job under a blanket at his house.
Pretty sure it is illegal. Like 99% sure.
Introduced as part of the bill that lowered the homosexual age of consent, I think. Can't be arsed to check.
You're wrong sorry Meow
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/7653326.stm
Here it says 'under the age of 18' so technically Meow
In 2001, the law was changed to make it illegal for teachers to engage in sexual activity with pupils at their school aged under 18.
I'm pretty sure it is illegal, due to the power imbalance/abuse of authority
Someone around here must be a teacher who can tell us. Scagden seems to be mysteriously busy.
It is illegal
Duty of care
If he was a lecturer it wouldn't be illegal tho
Just saying it happens a fair bit with people who are a few months older (and often with much bigger age gaps)
It would be, if she were 16/17
if you're talking about a 20 year old student shagging some 55 year old tutor, then no it wouldn;t be, but the person would be an adult, it isn't the age difference, it is that she is a child and he isn;t and that he abused a position of trust.
Looks like Evil Sean Adams is in favour of PAEDOS.
Can't say I'm surprised... the evil bastard.
PAEDO ENABLER
DiS is just a Y-front...
Not trying to be contrversial, but...
i don't find a 30-year-old and a 15-year-old having some sort of relationship THAT outrageous, even if it's a sexual one, which we don't know it is.
Course, it's a bit sad on his part, and he should know better, and ought to be sacked, but i don't necessarily think it makes him a bad man in this case, or that it warrants a long custodial sentence, providing she's safe and returns home, of course.
Obviously, were she much younger, yeah, but she isn't. When i was around her age, most of the girls who either went to my school or lived locally were involved with older men, and though i'd want his head on a platter if i was her dad, it's just something that happens.
Also, there's generally a clearly different attitude towards these sort of things depending on the gender of the elder party. A 15-year-old lad having a bit with a 30-year-old female teacher would be deemed a much less serious affair and even broadly trivialised. This is almost certainly down to female privilege.
So yeah, i repeat, not justifying what he's done, if he indeed has, he shouldn't be allowed to teach, but he's hardly Fred West, and a bit of perspective's probably needed.
I agree
but it's a duty fo care. You sign up to be a teacher, you can't do that.
It's shit but them the rules. He should have also waited a year. That's all, then it would have been a lot less taboo. A fuck lot less.
But do I think he's an evil monster? Not at all. He's probably in love. But he is in the wrong and that's the law. THE LAW.
Yeah, that's what i said.
Yeah sorry
I should have just this'd it
That's also what I said
But I said it far less eloquently.
Although judging from his Twitter bio/blog
in his mind he's clearly a 'musician' first, and teaching seems to be something of a stopgap before penning that seven figure deal with Universal.
There have been a few cases in the news recently of female older teachers having sex with their male pupils
Its not trivialized.
I think the reason this is so serious is because she's a minor and is essentially missing in another country regardless of her affair with her teacher.
^ so much female privilege in that post.
yeah and what
It's definitely considered in a different light, and generally a less severe one.
That's not evidence of some sort of reverse sexism (it feeds into bog standard sexism quite comfortably) but it's definitely true.
I dunno
if it was the other way round, it would definitely still be in the news.
Meh, it's estimated that something like 1,000-2,000 'inappropriate'
teacher/student relationships begin every year. Most of them don't make that the press, regardless of the genders involved. Don't think you can say any of them will 'definitely' be in the news.
probably because tabloids are all written by men going
'GET YOUR END AWAY BOYO'
And the women who work there are fine to work for a newspaper that has Page3, so they don't say anything untoward.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3CgRH8RlJs&feature=youtube_gdata_player
actually
my bf when i was 16 was nearing 30. A couple of years off. Didnt think it was odd then. Looking back still dont really think it was that odd.
He wasnt a teacher though. The guy should have really known better.
1) that blog entry CAN'T be about this
cos, like, presumably his wife reads his blog and would be like "uh darling, what's this?"
2) can only imagine she's pregnant. why else would he not just wait until she was 16? (not a rhetorical question)
He's married?!
I didn't know that.
I literally just knew the headline. Details: Who needs them? My snap judgement is enough.
You know all the insider stuff!
An unrelated article?
In the banner headline?
Yep.
Would I be right in thinking that they've run off to France
because the French are all paedos?
Seems like the only logical conclusion to draw.
don't you like in brighton?
that's pretty close to france
just sayin
I moved from Brighton to London pal....
was worried that the air was infected down there.
but where do you go to do your likin'?
None of your business.
-
But where do you go to to do your likin'
When you're alone in your bed
Tell me the thoughts that surround you
I want to look inside your head, yes i do. yes i do. yes i do.
Isn't that a FRENCH song?
No further questions.
Not all gay men are paedophiles, you bigot.
paedophile
francophile
jeremy kyle
tate & lyle
WE DIDN'T START THE FIIIRE
15 < (30/2)+7
To all the semi-paedos arguing that the age difference isn't that bad.
Stop being semi-paedos.
heh `semi`
DON'T become proper paedos though
Proper Paedos, Real Emotions
Peado Haircuts, Peado Jackets, REAL NICE LADS
PROPER GADDS.
PROPER PAEDOS: Here to give semi paedos a good kick up the arse
I would've made a different joke using that phrase.
Semi-paedo?
Isn't that like being semi-pregnant?
except with much more DiS dramazzz
I don't hang out with teenagers, but I can't even imagine how boring and annoying a 15-year-old must be.
This guy must be a real sad case.
You certainly wouldn't catch me conversing with people half my age
on a daily basis.
:D
tbh
judging purely from the information that's been published about him they could well be closer in terms of maturity than people might assume.
indeed, I mean, he's 30 and wears band t-shirts forchrissake
*gets changed*
Have you seen An Education?
The girl in that (who is in a relationship with an older man) is supposed to be mature and precocious, but she's still a fucking earache.
Should have just followed this guy's lead and asked her parents permission:
http://uk.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2011613/293.stodden7.lc.071311.jpg
ho iz they?
Tooms from the X Files
:(
NO!!!!!!!
eErr... hi.
Does anyone want me to get any cigarettes or booze while I'm over here?
he doesn't look that much like you
he looks more like a DiS version of Leighton Baines
I wouldn't come back too soon if I were you
Played for a sucker
Unlucky JEREMY
teacher fella
I don't think it's been confirmed
what his chocolate preferences are
Or his size of knickers preferences
Funny you should say that..
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hotchocolates/sets/72157626348715661/with/5609264104/
Wow. 2011.
So basically, he married in April 2011. Started the affair in January this year, so much for marriage bliss.
Fucking hell the internet is weird sometimes
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2954310/Gran-and-grandson-to-have-baby.html
pregnant at 72?
no way
surrogate
thats alright then
[honey badger] ?
Pack it in!
oops...
PACK IT IN
https://twitter.com/nomisnosaj/status/250195356753743873
come on mate
stop messing about and bring her back. stop mucking around.
Wise words from a wise tweeter
This will probably sort it all out to be honest.
:DD
pack it in
torytoni
has something to tell him, only if he accepts the follow though!
No one posted his soundcloud yet?
http://soundcloud.com/jeremy-ayre-music/arrows-and-hearts-demo
...marries goat.
Jumped straight in on the first track. Starts 'I was afraid someone would catch us...'
He's got a song called
"Let The Wrong One In"
:'-D
Stats for this track
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oh just done more detective work. Isnt this her? http://soundcloud.com/mermaiddimples
she favourited a track called Starsigns of his.. which is pretty creepy ''hiding my true feelings... blah blah blah'' being in my livingroom is the closet i can be to you' or something along those lines.
It flipping IS her too!!
http://p.twimg.com/A3Y5326CUAAG1ms.jpg
i should be a detective
whoa
good work Detective Bass.
i cant wait to get you behind closed doors
should we actually tell someone about this?
isnt this like.. evidence or something?
what is it evidence for?
hmm, not sure really
how long it's been going on. An insight to what way they were thinking.. Don't know. But this is the sort of stuff you read about. So surely someone needs to know about it.
Y'know what?
I reckon, if you and I can find this stuff, the police have probably already found it.
them both being fucking weird
this should be sent to the papers
It really should
does someone want to do it? as i don't really know where to start
ugh
I really like this song he recorded
http://soundcloud.com/jeremy-ayre-music/the-things-we-do
SRSLY
tbf
anyone over the age of 19 who goes out with a 16 year old is a paedo
it's sean
Actually think I recognise this guy
Used to go out with a girl who lived in Ringmer, which by all accounts is a not particularly big village. Maybe she knows him. Or maybe I saw him at a Ghost Of A Thousand gig.
i lived in Ringmer for 5 years
you are a ringmer
"In a separate incident it emerged that a retired Church of England priest facing child sex charges is a former chairman of the governors."http://www.channel4.com/news/megan-stammers-council-was-investigating-relationship
And DaddyorChips is thinking, "And *I'm* not getting laid!".
I like how in the Daily Mail article it says they could be anywhere in Europe by now
and gives us a quick geography lesson
'Road network would quickly take them into Belgium, Holland, Germany and beyond' So France DOES have roads leading to other countries, fuck me.
countries sharing land borders linked?
fuck me
That's what she said!
he's not a geography teacher
i doubt he'll realise
Dunno what to make of it really.
He shouldn't be going out with her and should have known better. But I can't help feeling that a 30 year old going out with a 15 year old is hardly PAEDOGEDDON.
There were a couple of relationships between teachers and pupils at the school I went to and they were just tolerated quietly. I know of a teacher and pupil who started their relationship when she was 15 and they ended up getting married (and as far I know are still together). I think it's more prevalent and less shocking than the general media reaction would have us believe.
He's an adult authority figure taking advantage of someone who, however mature she might seem for her age, is essentially little more than a child.
that's pretty paedo-y
How do we know he's taking advantage of her...
Without knowing the personalities and desires of those involved, how can we assume what the dynamics of power within that relationship are?
I'm a maths teacher in his 30s
1) I'm not the bloke in the news
2) Teaching 15 year-olds for an hour is bad enough let alone spending all day with one...blimey
3) This has to be the worst career move I can think of
All the schoolkids where I work are pretty freaked out / grossed out about the concept of running away with a maths teacher - can't blame them either! On the whole I agree with some of the posts above that the teacher in question has not committed unspeakable crimes, but at the end of the day he was trusted with teaching someone's child and instead he elopes to France with her - I feel really sorry for his wife and the kid's parents. Once he's out of jail he's got stacking shelves as the only viable career choice...what is he thinking???
I don't really think its a career move
have you learnt nothing from the politcal eating thread?
everything you choose to do that will impact your career is a career move
Just wondering
If this was an alpha male PE teacher, would everyone be quite so diplomatic? Or is the man's profile a little too close for comfort...
he's definitely not right
how is this even news
Random question
But say they avoid being found until well after her 16th birthday, he would obviously already been struck off and she would be of legal age. Would his warrant still be void?
what about if they go to Spain
where sex with 14 year olds is legal (i think - won't be googling it to check)
Or if she opts for emancipation?
*13
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent#.22Age.22
18 in California and Florida*! Good work, virgins.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_North_America
*16 if you're 23 or younger.
I think the crime was commited when she was under age
So would still be valid
so the age of consent in France is 15 then?
the filthy bastards.
I feel really sorry for his wife.
Has she commented on it/been questioned or anything?
Going by the description under that Starsigns song
Which reads, "A demo of a new song, about falling in love with someone you shouldn't... How ironic. Recorded with the help of the lovely Chris Startup!!!," and was uploaded a month ago, I'm going to guess his marriage had been in trouble for a while. Obviously she can't have been expecting it was a 15 year old girl he was falling for.
She looks like Katy Perry.
Fancy her do ya?
WELL WHY DONT YOU MARRY HER
(after she gets divorced)
Is this thread ever gonna end
the age of consent in Spain is 13?!?
Christ.
They have the sexiest teenagers, as well.
Nah, they all have massive beaks
Any advance (erm.... decrease) on 13.
Going....going...
So you can tap-ass sooner there. BOOM!
They are mainly too busy pushing donkeys out of provincial church towers during their formative years go be making las whoopie.
Tap-ass
like Tapas.
Must I issue a Gob Bluth stlye "COME ON!"?
Hi, I don't have any interest in all of ^this
But do any of you wear green cords?
Contemplating it.
I like them.
I say invest.
Anyone? No?
only DiS
wouldn't be shredding this guy for being 30 and liking Alkaline Trio and Saves the Day
Age of Consent Map
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Age_of_Consent_-_Global.svg
This is a hell of a Twitter post
@jeremyayre How do you feel you peadophile, all over the news!!! Disgusting!!! Your wife was way hotter anyway, you stupid guy!!!
:'D
OK whats the general consensus on my matrix below?
Girls age: Status of Bloke in his late 20s that goes out with her.
19:TRUE LAD
18:Man-child
17:Bit creepy mate
16:Semi-paedo
15:PAEDOGEDDON
14:PAEDOGEDDON!
13:PAEDOGEDDON!!
12:PAEDOGEDDON!!!
You can probably simplify it to...
<16: YOU'RE A BAD MAN
16-17: KEEP IT QUIET
18-20 : BACK O' THE NET!
But where does semi-paedo fit in?
With enough shoving and lubrication, anywhere.
-1/10
That's generous.
Made me long for a delete function as soon as I pressed enter.
Nah I liked it
Good one liner.
theyve been found
oh jez
no way
link?
He's been arrested (obv)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-19756698
Thank the lord
now they can stop plastering her massive annoying face all over the papers.
I'm sure that's
Probably for the best that DiS didn't post that.
Now I'm curious
It was going to be a very crude and ill-advised innuendo involving the words "plastering her massive annoying face".
I'm sure it would offend your delicate sensibilities.
I'm all up for an innuendo
i'll glady mow your lawn.
Well, I'm up if you are.
Thats always a good place to start
Up, down, around and around and to the side a bit.
We do the hokey pokey
and we turn ourselves around.
That's what it's all about?
In-out, in-out, shake it all about.
I somehow feel the use of a nursery rhyme in this thread is appropriate
It was probably his pick-up line.
Well she did say she wanted a song written about her in her bucket list.
Well, I guess he had a good knowledge of her bucket list.
All up in your endo
seems too obvious doesn't it
He's finally bloody packed it in
He HAD to pack it in
Got nicked. FOR BEING IN LOVE.
if he goes to prison
will he become the Burzum of (alledgedly) paedo-indie?
was rooting for them :'''(
^ personal tutor
*married
stick that in yer DiS.xls chum
Ghost of a Thousand fan?
Never been mistaken for forzaborza before ...
I guess he assumed all the football thread trolls kept spreadsheets
He looks so paedo-ey in the bbc photos
he is absolutely FUCKED. A wet indie cunt in prison for under age sex? His brains are goinna be all over the wall in a week
love a bit of wet indie cunt
My word!
you haven't got the monopoly on sexism theo
He'll be wishing that he never wrote a song called let the Wrong One In.
Nah, i doubt it.
Firstly, you're assuming he's been boshing her. He might not have.
Even if he has, i'd be surprised if he got anything more than a short custodial sentence.
There was a case relatively recently where a female schoolteacher fled with a 15-year-old boy, and she received a suspended sentence. Assuming he's not had sex with her, anything much more severe than a similar sentence would only add further fire to those who think that the law is inherintly misandrist.
^ He's been charged with child abduction.
I suppose this could change but it's not a foregone conclusion that he'll get a particularly harsh sentence, especially one that has to be served somewhere, erm, naughty.
It could just be a massive misunderstanding
Could just be a school trip that was incredibly poorly subscribed to
im assuming the song Starsigns is about his love for her
' i cant wait to get your behind closed doors'
i doubt this is to do some extra tutoring on multiplication and fractions
Tell it to a newspaper, love
Anyone not thinking he's going to jail is nuts
Even if she was 16 or 17 he'd go to prison as he's her teacher. FACT. Also, there's statutory rape as she's 15. And abduction. And the high profile of the case (does matter).
They'll throw the fucking book at him.
You do this on purpose, don't you?
Yes? No?
What?!
maybe we should start a sweep?
winner gets a signed copy of the new Swans album.
i'll say 2 years, out in 10 months.
Five stretch
With all the media hype they'll want to make an example out of him
saying that, they have to prove they did indeed 'do the deed' if not he'll only be charged with kidnapping a minor, no previous convictions I say = 18months.
GCSE book of math.
I am enjoying your knowledge of the judicial system in our country, in that you know he'll be given a custodial sentence as FACT.
YOU PLANK.
It's not statutory rape.
I thought if you were an adult and they were below the age of consent it was statutory rape
because they are in no permission to give an acceptible degree of consent
*position
They'd need to prove sex took place in any case.
Without that, it's 'just' abduction of a minor. Which is obviously pretty serious in itself.
Thing is whether he goes to prison or not, his life is utterly fucked. His teaching career's destroyed, he's going to be on the sex offenders' register for life, he's never going to get a job working with children (or probably a job with any responsibility) ever again and pretty much everyone knows his name, his face and what he's done and I'm guessing that, even if he ever had a chance of making it as a musician, that's probably gone too. Facing the real world and trying to adjust to a life where he's widely known as a sex offender is probably going to be as tough, if not tougher, than any prison sentence he got.
Surprised the French nicked him
If only he'd directed some films, eh?
- Mr President, you'd better look at this....there's a man on the run with an underage girl in our country.
- How would arresting him affect the general feeling towards Cannes Film Festival?
- Not at all, Sir.
- Arrest him immediately.
Les Professeur Dangereux
He is absolutely fucked!
The prison nativity is written and rehearsals have already started
who are you playing in it?
2Pac
2PacItIn
:D
fucking hell this thread is disturbing.
i presume mehodor and co. are trolling, but even still..
this
15 is really young
Mehodor trolling? Really?
Fuck me! You'll be telling me the Pope's Catholic next.
the description of him by the french police pretty much confirms it
'He looked sallow and downcast, his eyes blank and lifeless. He looked bedraggled, unshaven and completely dispirited'.