but then I remembered who In support and I wanted to cry a little bit.
Watford at home. A draw.
Bit of a dodgy one for us since balloongate. I'd take a draw but fear the worst.
the club should be roused by the events of the last few days and liverpool haven't been playing as badly as their results have suggested.
if sunderland squeak an early goal you could collapse though.
They'll be happy to sit deep and wait for a chance to break, especially with Mclean and Adam Johnson against those full backs. Can see Liverpool having 60%+ possession without ever looking much like breaking them down, then getting merked by Fletcher
i think whoever scores first will win by two or three.
I'm watching it in the pub with my Dad, should be stressful.
really hate liverpool so hoping for a sunderland win,talk to me about the stadium of light, any use?
another great signing for them. i presume his progress has stalled a bit as he was getting games for everton last season, but probably good for him to be playing week in, week out.
he's only there for a month or so, if he's as good as everyone makes out he could be great
I would assume it is on TV somewhere given the daft kick off time, but haven't seen it advertised anywhere.
That is 'Promotion Favourites' Leicester...
so it'll be on in the pub I hope.
First game at Molineux with the new stand. Dunno where I'm sitting yet, my dad got the tickets. Really hope I get some of those spectacular views of Asda in the bar.
Given the rumour Kean'll be sacked if he loses, I suspect Blackburn fans might want us to win that one even more than we do...
Stead vs Rhodes. Hoping for a Stead victory. Would have popped down to Ashton Gate for this one, but I'm out of town this weekend.
I know they pushed both Mancs close, but from what I saw they were pretty patchy in those games, only to then hit 20 minute spells where they looked lethal. A nice, unremarkable, second last on MOTD, 2-0 with Giroud scoring would be fine by me.
will be willing on Giroud to score for sure.
Be interesting to see if Wenger plays Diaby or doesn't risk him and saves him for Tuesday - and who will replace him if he doesn't.
Glad we don't have to wait another month between trips to the Emirates too! feels like an age since Sunderbland
Ramsey can't either, but he's probably more that type of player.
Even without the knock this would probably have been earmarked as a good chance to rest him after starting all 3 league games and then being away with France. Be good for Coquelin or Ramsey to get 90 minutes too.
i would be hoping, and sort of expecting to be starting. If not i would be probably be thinking about the January transfer window
but I guess he's potentially as low as 6th choice if we ever have all our midfielders fit at once
so if Diaby is only semi fit I doubt Wenger will risk him
but he could be a lot better for another club where, as you're alluding, he is not inferior to most of the rest of the squad in his positions(s)
Obviously Cazorla and, if he gets back to his best, Jack are different class, but aside from them you can make a case for him over any of the others based on potential vs current ability imo. He's got no chance of fulfilling that potential without regular starts though.
but see him play post-break and think he's just not that good. we shall see. Tomorrow could be a good game for him to get a run out.
so yeah, mixed bag. Watch out for Luke Shaw, who it seems is going to play ahead of Danny Fox at left back. He is brilliant and 17, so therefore will probably be playing for you lot in a year.
Can't see us not scoring, especially with Ramirez in alongside Lallana, but you will win
...fear the mullet
Chamberlain will probably be on the right for us, be interesting to see who wins that duel as I assume they'll have at least trained together at some point.
Very impressed with Lallana so far. Surprised he wasn't snapped up when you were down in League 1, he must have been absolutely taking the piss at that level.
and they ended up with Billy Corgan in midfield instead. Almost managed to hang on to Ox as well. Hopefully the selling days are over now we have decent cash behind us, but I might regret saying that
just seventeen, more hype over him than there was over Bale at the same age. To be fair this set of youngsters we have now are pretty special, if we can keep them together they could be an incredible team in a few years
Get to see our old friend Theo Robinson. People with seats in row Z have already been warned. It's be just our luck for him to stick a couple away for them now.
By finding out Norwich West Ham is the 12:45 game
hello again, French/Portuguese/German/other league(s)!
is the pick of the bunch in the Eredivisie.
in the middle of a minor injury crisis and having performed poorly in pretty much all of our games so far this season.
Hopefully now the transfer window has slammed shut people like Felliani will stop trying so hard.
Instead we got Brian Laws.
Weird choice for the Super Sunday clash too, given the other fixtures this weekend.
I wasn't at the home win last season as I was in hospital. I attended the FA Cup and the away game and we lost accumulatively 7-1. Think I'm cursed
Looking forward to chanting 'You're getting sacked in the morning' after Pogrebniak bags his fourth of the afternoon.
Little bit of an unknown quantity. It's not uncommon for us to lose to the supposed weaker teams. Others will be gunning for us now too.
Think the crowd got to the ref far more than they did to the players in last year's league game- Chelsea's 9 men pretty much outplayed QPR's 11 but seemingly refused to score goals, a trend which continued for some time after.
I propose that everyone in attendance spends the entire 90 minutes wandering through the stands and shaking hands. Also, I hope someone moves the manky piss-stained mattress that has been outside the Loftus Road away fan entrance for the last week.
No way that thing offers any lumbar support.
where's a good place to watch dodgy sky (i.e the Stoke - City game) near Portland Street?
next to piccadilly gardens. It looks like a dive from outside but it has dodgy sky which seems to be absent in most of town. Probs be busy but idk, the pub next door to that does it too.
shithole.. but needs must
dodgy sky is really hard to find in manchester i, er, find.
i mean yeah get out to eccles monton and that and you've got loads of places but bang i n the centre wave is the only one i could find :(
i'll prbly be there too
mine's a large scotch
and without any news to back your presumption up. See me after class.
if the latter i believe since last season. a few clubs are putting the lower range hospitality packages on there. chelsea vs atletico in the super cup was, i recall.
if the former, and it's tickets as you state...source?
As a Palace fan I'm quietly confident about tonight.
We Palace had an awful start to the season and looked like certain relegation fodder. But at home to Sheffield Wednesday last week we were much improved.
The first few games though we did have a very makeshift defence. Speroni had just come back from a broken hand, and hadn't really featured in preseason and was uncharactistically unreliable.
Our back for from last season was gone.
Clyne to Southampton, McCarthy injured, Gardener to Sheffield Wednesday and Parr (our player of the year) playing in midfield.
We signed quite a few new players since our first three games and bought in Darcy Blake from Cardiff and Delaney from Ipswich who have really shored up our defence.
Andrew Moritz and Yannick Bolasie had two of the best debuts I've ever seen last week. Plus Glenn Murray and Johnny Williams are back from injury. Added to that we've now got David Goodwillie, i've gone from despair to being quietely confident.
i'm not sure they will, due to the former's propensity to pick up niggling injuries and the distance travelled by the latter, but good to know they'll be ready for the champions league game at least.
prolly go for;
We'll probably end up with Wellbeck on the left and Giggs in the middle though. Think Brady might get on the bench, and Fletcher.
He scored the other day for Mexico, and if he doesn't play with Kagawa, Rooney and RVP out, when will he?
Is the Champions League Group Stage starting already? Zzzzzzzzzz
cant say i wont be watching.
City will pump Madrid.
<added to spreadsheet>
You cheeky scamp. City at 5/1 does seem like a good punt though, especially if Aguero gets a game tomorrow.
although that's not saying much at all. Might give it 5 minutes before switching to Chelsea v Juve.
the premiership sucks balls
Really hope QPR can pull one out of the hat here. Is there likely to be trouble? I'm only small and I'm going with a mate with a chronic back problem.
Absolutely no chance.
Whereabouts you sitting?
Just hope we don't concede in the first minute which will completely kill the atmosphere
My mate and his dad have season tickets but his dad can't make it so I'm going. Looking forward to it! You going?
and still roll em over
And having missed the win last year as I was in hospital I wouldn't miss this for the world
FOR THE AVOIDANCE OF DOUBT: None of these are me
i dunno why i've suddenly become so confindent this season. I expected us to lose virtually every game last season.
I can see a well organised midfield and defence set up to prevent any counter attacks pretty much crush their attacking threat. Not sure whether i'd start koscielny or per though. Normally i'd say start per against an aerial threat like Lambert, but they also have quite a lot of pace and move the ball about and stuff, which is a situation that koscielny's much more suited for, so i dunno. Nice problem to have though, for once.
Don't know the extent of the injury he got at Anfield, but he played 2 full games on it for Belgium this week and Bosscielny could do with a start. Tricky couple of weeks coming up so it'd be great to have all 3 of them at something close to 100%
We could conceivably have a near totally fit squad for City and Chelski. Which will be nice.
is that you'll buy our technically gifted teenagers at half-time
but we will record our first win of the season the week after. I'm certain of it.
liverpool have no problem psyching themselves up for the big games, it's the other 30odd that's the problem.
has draw written all over it.
but will try and time a break to see the 2nd half of Norwich, MON
it was THAT dull
if only Harry Kane has finished that chance.
Shit game though
Arsenal, Swansea, Fulham draw, Man Utd, Chelsea, Man City, Sunderland to win £1296.52.
both of whom are playing a half-full strength team. had a little cry.
COME ON WIGAN!
Optimism set to last approximately 4 minutes.
Almost spot on.
After 4 and a half minutes!
Mario's looked pretty off it so far this season and Dzeko's just had a great couple of games for Bosnia.
OMAN'S NUMBER ONE!
not sure it should have been a penalty. i mean it is technically, but i'm not sure wellbeck would've kept it in.
just the two handballs
we're absolutely annihilating them
Comeback's on guys!111!1
The guy has become a complete liability for both club and country. We should perhaps stick with Mannone at this rate
he's still prone to the odd mistake, but tbf he is about 5 years old. I really don't understand people's praise for mannone. I mean, yeah he played well considering he's a 3rd choice keeper, but playing well as a 3rd choice keeper basically means he managed not to score an own goal from a goal kick or something. He still looked properly shaky in a lot of situations.
Szczesny's a good keeper, potentially a world class one. That was a h owler though dunno what he was thinking.
but Szczesny has made a lot of mistakes now in the last 6 months. He seems to have lost all his confidence. He was awful in the Euros for Poland also. I am seriously concerned he could cost us points in tighter games. We've not got any better options really, maybe Fabianski when he is fit again but he is also prone to errors.
Like five in a row, awesome :D
oh he's coming off, good.
and they've just brought on Barry for Tevez?
At Newcastle at the end of last season
4-0 does my predictions nicely. Park the bus, Wigan!
4-0 is probably a bit harsh. i've really enjoyed the challenges coming in from both sides though.
him, wellbeck and buttner were superb, really was a shocking dive from danny though.
Tried one for England last week.
Remember him going down very easiy a few times last season.
It'd be a shame if he got a name for it, like Young, Nani, or before that Ronaldo, because (going off what i've seen of him for England over the last few months at least) he's shaping up to be quite a good player.
but i didn't see the england game. before today i'd have said he was the united striker least likely to dive. barring the dive and not actually putting the ball in the net he really was fantastic, never seen him lead the line so well before.
and honestly can't justify the £50 you spent on it to yourself. 90 minutes of three or four midfielders kicking each other by accident. Pretty diabolical as entertainment. Oh well, suppose it's nice that nothing kicked off and that it only took 5 minutes to walk home.
is the answer, a shit player? Because he's been shit today.
Oh look he's just scored.
Really surprised with that win. Lowton scoring as well, supposedly we played really well, good stuff all round.
Watched the early kickoff, Harry Kane's finishing needs work it seems but he does look quality.
as does his power in general. Incredibly surprised he got a move to a Premier League club this year when he only has half a season at a relegation-threatened club in the Championship under his belt. There was surely plenty left for him to learn at that level with a club going for promotion.
a lot of it depends on how injuries go as it often does i suppose, but we potentially have a really really excellent side. I think the main thing is that we have amazing squad depth, for the first time since i can remember really. We don't even have an obvious starting XI, if everyone's fit. I have no idea what our best team will be when wilshere's fit and back to his best. I guess what you would expect would be for him to take cazorla's place in the middle and for cazorla to go out on the right, but there are a load of other permutations involving oxlade chamberlain, gervinho and walcott, not forgetting the fact that we also have ramsey (who's looked infinitely better in his sub appearances this season than he did all of last) and rosicky (who was for a month or so last season the best attacking midfielder in the country) who can play in various positions.
Jenkinson's looked defensively solid with whatever he's had thrown at him. He needs to improve his play when we have the ball, but that's okay, and sort of a secondary objective when we have a player like gibbs on the other side. So basically the only place i'd say we have a weakness in terms of depth is on the left side (i still don't rate santos, but maybe he'll come good idk). Gibbs is fantastic going forward though, and will hopefully improve defensively under Bould.
It's fair to say we've been by far the best team so far this season in the last two games, against one team who drew against city, and another who should have taken points from both manc clubs. So yeah, i think we have the potential to exceed everyone's expectations this season. It's just injury dependent.
If we win against city next week then i think we have to be considered as genuine title contenders. If we draw it's a good point, and if we lose then it's what was expected anyway. Really psyched for it.
if we win against city, away, given the way that we've played the past two games, it seems perfectly reasonable to consider us as challengers in the same way that people have thought both manc clubs have been challengers from the start. Actually it would be unreasonable to think otherwise, imo.
The rest of my post isn't out of perspective either. We have fantastic strength in depth, comparative to previous seasons. I don't think there's any doubt about that?
the more cynical side of me would point to stuff like - rosicky's form last year coinciding with contract talks, injuries being pretty much a foregone conclusion, the defence yet to deal with an incisive opposition strike force, etc etc
a bit of optimism is always good but it seems that every year we get a few good results and a section of Arsenal fans lose the run of themselves, which makes the eventual run of dreadful form all the more embarrassing. i don't think we can be considered title contenders at all this season, not until we see where we are in March at least.
I haven't seen much of Arsenal this season, or the teams you think they'll be challenging. I'm sure they're perfectly capable of beating City, United, anyone on their day, but you should know by now not to get carried away.
Teams are title challengers if they're in the mix in March and beyond. Arsenal have played four games - dropping points at home to Sunderland, beating a Liverpool side who only raise their game for the top three, drawing at Stoke, and beating the side with the worst defence in the league.
Given the roasting Spurs fans got for getting very giddy very early last season, you'd think Arsenal fans would just go about their business with a quiet confidence rather than declaring themselves top dogs a tenth of the way in.
There's nothing wrong with being optimistic, but you just set yourself up for a fall. It's not bants-swerving, it's just common sense. Set a realistic target, better it, you've got yourself a good season. Move the goalposts, *perhaps* fall short, it feels like, maybe even is, failure.
Good luck, but as i said, titles aren't won in September.
We finished third last year in case you forgot. Otherwise I agree,it's best not to get carried away so early. I think Liverpool away was a tough game, but you need to win quite a few tough games before you can be considered a genuine contender. I'm feeling quietly optimistic myself but I was even before the season started.
i can't be bothered to explain it, but i didn't mean it in the stupid way people seem to assume. If you want, you can re-read the line above it where i said `i think we have the potential to exceed everyone's expectations this season. It's just injury dependent.` Exceed expectations = 3rd or above.
I think people tend to take 'title contenders' to mean a side who, over the course of the season, look like realistic winners of the title. I'd be interested to know how you mean it.
3 games time people will be calling for wenger to walk
Brought a bit of a lump to my throat, to be honest.
Neither group of fans has a great record in keeping tasteless chants to themselves but I thought they'd surely tone it down a bit in light of the Hillsborough findings. Travelling fans are usually some of the better behaved and Liverpool structure the ticketing to try and keep troublemakers out on our end, but there's always the chance that a few idiots are going to cause a real stir.
it was a good game
also billy jones looks like a proper eighties tennis throwback
looked like the kind of thing you'd do in primary school to troll your own team because you were sulking about all the good kids being on the other side
pretty much two amazing players for every position. defo the best squad in PL history.
jose is one very unhappy bunny right now.
after real's defeat against sevilla he claimed 'right now...i don't have a team.'
Sorry, i've posted several times in this thread. I've had a terrible day.
instead of gary fucking lineker.
ac jimbo + nevin + henry winter = motd dream team right there.
hope all is well.
Though I was taken aback by your use of the <3 emoticon, I must admit.
how the fuck did you concede that.
is no longer looking so promising :(
he can't be a professional footballer, surely? Wider than he was tall
seems like every other player used to line up for valencia or bilbao
It's the place to go shopping these days, apparently.
That everyone loves, right?
Just lovely stuff.
Morten Olsen must surely be tempted to utilise that Eriksen Scöne tag team especially against weaker sides. You don't need two defensive midfielders against teams like Malta.
I missed last night's episode.
Must be some tedious rights thing. The ESPN goals app is well worth a look though (if in UK).
That's it for official channels. 101greatgoals will have all the highlights and interviews you need, without Shearer.
Shearer was optional.
fate, the FA, Surraleggs, Michel Platini, Chris Foy and the Stonecutters have ordained that you have nothing to worry about over the course of 20 posts.
Small club problems.
We could be 7 (SEVEN) goals up and if we conceded, it would always go to pieces.
Should have put the game well out of Leicester's reach, but a decent hit/screamer/speculative, hit and hope stuff made it 2-1which was the cue for us to be rickety as fuck for the remainder of the game
clearly we won't be needing it for our expensively orchestrated mid-table finish
The amount of money they've spent you'd think it would be having an effect by now.
nowheresville basically...we drastically over-reached under St. Martin O'Neill who transformed journeymen playing in a stadium the size of a matchbox in one of the many nondescript cities peppering the midlands and turned us into a well-drilled giant-slaying premiership middleweights qualifying for Europe. Now we are exactly where we deserve to be and all the money in the world can't change that or make us a global brand.
Tottenham's start hasn't exactly been mindblowing in terms of results, from the little I've seen they've played well enough. My feeling is that he is a bit of a fraud and that he will be out on his arse in the next year or two, but the headlines being written about him aren't really fair- he's paying the price for being a bit of dick to journalists while at Chelsea (even though he was often bang on in his criticism of them) and replacing God's gift to SSN. Don't get the impression from his time with us that he responds especially well to pressure and criticism.
We were decent against Newcastle, average against West Brom and poor against Norwich. Not that I'm reading too much into it. Or anything into it, actually.
because i really don't like him as a person but find myself wanting him to succeed if only to annoy phil thompson.
give him time to get used to working alongside big egos and have a break from being in the spotlight
I thought Spurs created a shit load of great chances and limited Reading to practically nothing. New signings look good (particularly Vertonghen). I'm feeling really happy after that! Bring on QPR!
So nice to see us win. I love Defoe, but can't help but wonder how many goals we'd score if we had a genuinely *world class* striker. We had 20 (TWENTY) shots on goal today.
can't help but feel it's the sort of game where we would have dropped points under Harry, because Adebayor or Crouch would have been starting instead.
I remembered, after the game had finished, there was all that talk of him leaving in the Summer, and was baffled about it all over again.
Didn't realise that you'd written that before today's game.
just a crack at doing a 'number two'
Real-City should be a real humdinger on Tuesday- don't follow Spanish football especially closely but Real don't seem in a good place right now, fancy City to cause an upset (a novelty, seeing as beating Real or Barca are the only realistic upsets City could cause these days) and for it to be a great game either way.
And Chelsea-Juventus ... Juve were the first team I ever saw win the CL, first game in our 'defence' of the trophy at home, taking my dad and sitting in a stand likely to have a bit of an atmosphere rather than my usual one. Yeah, can't wait :)
Thank god we have an (on-paper) exciting game against Lazio to take my mind off it.
If I hear Brendan Rodgers talk about his VISION and PHILOSOPHY one more time I'm gonna go on a march.
I'm behind him, but I think the way he talks about pass & move as if it's this elusive formula that he's managed to forge through years of study - anyone would think we were Stoke City last season. The tactics last year were almost spot on. They just didn't get goals due to a combination of shit finishing and shit luck.
Also a funny bit on Carroll from Rodgers. "It would take something INCREDIBLE to make him leave this club."
= incredible, no?
I don't think there's much concrete about a loan move. It's pretty much borrowing your player to see if he's any good because you daren't spend a lot of money in case he's shit.
they make it look so easy, though the aussies gave them a fright. only lost six games in five years or something like that - ridiculous!
if we play anything like we did before the international break
hart - 32 saves 6 goals - 5.33r saves per goal
needlessly defensive this'd this
Wow, that's even better than the ratio that gave him the best shots-to-save ratio of any keeper in the league in 2011-12. Whodafunkit? Worth a shot from anywhere though, eh?
Just sayin boyos.
keep it fresh innit, dont think hart has a second career solving mysteries with a big dog either.
saves per goal. brilliant.
But it had to be that cunt scoring the winner didn't it?
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