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What did you think of it?
It was one of the worst films I've ever seen, I think.
I gave it a chance it didn't deserve.
Just such a lazy, lazy film.
but my friend bought the popcorn and drinks, so I think we all know who the real winner is here.
in macfarlene's case i say fuck that, because he refuses to let anything he does stand or fall on its own merits without making sure everyone is aware he had something to do with it.
so it is truly impossible to criticise anything he creates without criticising him. and if that weren't enough, he's so self-aggrandizing, self-righteous, and self-obsessed that he goes out of his way to personalise any criticism his work receives.
plus he's pretty shaky politically, too.
essentially, he's a thinner, richer kevin smith.
He's an open supporter of the Democrats (including financially), an outspoken supporter of gay rights, and was named Harvard's humanist of the year.
I don't know what so many people get spitting furious about him. He's a smug bastard no doubt, but I'd be if I were than successful - he's self deprecating too though. If you don't like Family Guy et al, fair enough, I happen to think it's sporadically excellent, but I'm happy to have a difference of opinion on it. I bet the majority of Dissers are happy to wank off about how good Dexter's Lab and Johnny Bravo were though, which he also had an important part in making.
never liked them, either :')
That's surely something you like by him in a film... :-/
I Am Weasel?
Apparently he was in an episode of Gilmore Girls, though I can't think which one.
I knew Alex Borstein was in Gilmore Girls, so I guess it all links up.
this was just awful, awful awful though.
is enough to prove he's a bit of a dick.
shaky politically would, i suppose, encompass his constant likening of family guy's success to barack obama's election (a show about a stupid white man becoming popular is the same as america electing its first black president, macfarlene? really?), ass-licking of renowned misogynist and rape apologist bill maher, and his open admission that he can put racist, homophobic or sexist jokes in his shows and get away with it 'because they're cartoons and so it isn't as bad.'
and he is a lot of things, but self-deprecating is definitely not one of them.
and refused to apologise for it when confronted by media types. also defended rush limbaugh after limbaugh's bizarre sexist rant against birth control earlier this year.
plus he's an ardent supporter of the death penalty and says those wrongly sentenced to death are a odd price worth paying for justice or some such horseshit.
the man's a fucking moron
yet has no qualms whatsoever about taking money from redneck fratboys who lap up the hateful shit in his work without realising it's trying to be ironic.
Plus what you say goes for most artists ever.
after travelling to collect it in a really big car racists helped him pay for.
and that's the percentage of his income he donates to good causes
you can make a lot of money from making intolerance and bigotry funny and palatable if you so desire. but in an ideal world you wouldn't be able to collect a humanist award from a prestigious university because you covered your arse with some campaign contributions and wishy washy liberal sloganeering in press interviews.
12 years ago people were arguing similar things about those shows, in terms of whether a percentage of the audience not realising it was ironic invalidated it entirely.
(It doesn't, btw.)
The more I think about him the more he seems like an American Ricky Gervais. Annoying perhaps, but I can't get worked up about it.
And I definitely think he can be self deprecating - they showed It's A Trap on BBC3 the other night and it ends with a conversation with/about Seth Green and Seth Macfarlane completely ripping on each other.
i think i get worked up because we're at serious risk of having him canonized alongside matt groening, trey parker and matt stone. but the gulf between how they roll and how macfarlene rolls is embarrassing. yet his popularity in relation to theirs nowadays is a sad indictment of the culture at large.
I'm not really a fan of the South Park lads either. Groening is alright, I suppose, though he didn't have the guts to pull the trigger on the Simpsons when he should have.
DiS user bobbygeorge seemed to like it, though.
a very high percentage of the jokes aren't funny at all and it's nowhere near to Simpsons or South Park at their peak or whatever but it's still better than average I reckon
For every good episode of South Park there's one of absolute phoned in bollocks, and if anyone wants to attack Family Guy for being racist/mysoginistic, there's an equal amount you can pick out in South Park.
South Park *ruins* FG though
and the former's been on a hottish streak, too
But if Matt and Trey want to carry on being right on, they should take a look at some of the stuff they do.
but back in the day it was pretty much untouchable, far far far better than Family Guy ever was or will be
I don't agree with all their political views but they generally don't put offensive stuff in without some 'reason'. well at least they seem more willing to analyse their own content far moreso than Macfarlane does. um not expressing this very well
the Cartmen Cupid episode was brilliant!
maybe I'll give a go again, I haven't actually watched any in a few years
the most recent series was strong
south park has become a niche show now, catering mainly to people who've stuck with it since the early days. even at its peak you never finished watching an episode thinking racism or sexism was funny or anything, because stone and parker always very carefully contextualise those kinds of jokes (usually they're made by characters we're supposed to dislike, find pathetic, or some combination of the two). they examine racism and sexism, in other words. they don't just make jokes about it for the hell of it. the same goes for the simpsons.
whereas family guy does throw in racism and sexism for the hell of it, without context and without restraint, purely for shock value.
except far better expressed
I don't people see Cartman calling Kyle a sneaky Jew and thinking it's a thought out parody of bigotry, I think they just think it's funny to call people sneaky Jews and then go out and do it in playgrounds.
It goes back to what you said about a large number of viewers not appreciating the irony, but I think it applies to both shows pretty equally.
south park is very niche now. the people who realised their own prejudices were actually being mocked fell away fairly sharply around about the 2001/02 seasons.
is to show how it can slip out in normal day-to-day life, even among liberal people. Not to be laughed at at face value. For me the humor is in the sending up of Simpsons tropes (Peter doing horrendous things yet still coming out of it looking like a good father) and the playing around with usual narrative structure (the bizarre long silences and contextless asides) . And all those who bang on about series X being better than series Y, it's not really, you've just got more sick of it in the meantime).
what's the context for the shitty wok manager and his FUNNY ASIAN ACCENT. or any other asian characters with their FUNNY ASIAN ACCENTS.
but I don't find his comedy one tenth part as entirely objectionable as Sacha Baron Cohen's spiteful, cowardly dreck
and no, my computer's hyphen key is not working
you go for the gold in the tryhard indie bellend category, congrats
whose humour consists entirely of cheap shots
but have your righteousness, it suits you
i'm being righteous
The movie was so bad the chocolate turned to ash in my mouth.
and surprisingly emotional... I don't know what to think anymore! (Maybe I should watch it and get my own opinion)
Although if you don't like Family Guy I doubt that you'd care for this.
To read this thread, you'd think McFarlane had raped your children. Even the ugly ones.
and most films that people like, I hate. Like all the fucking Batman films. all of them. Shit shit shit.