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I reckon there is a bigfoot ... just watching troll hunter
or something. I've just made this up right now.
Kill the most wanted man on the planet after the biggedt manhunt ever only to
1) Not to film it
2) Publish no photos or evidence of any kind
3) Hoy the body in the sea where it can never be found before anyone's been able to see it
The cunt was dead long ago. They reckon like 2003 or something. Look it up. It's a conspiracy theory so don't go moaning when David Icke or whatever talks about it.
the nazi mural gives me nightmares
however the bit at the end about Obama being in town for the "22 mile" close shave of comet Elenin - just did a bit of reading and the closest it got to Earth was 22 million miles. nevermind.
But WTF... Is there any legitimate explanation for those completely bat shit murals?
so we can assume the thing was funded by the freemasons. I doubt its a coincidence that the freemasons are heavily linked with the New World Order and the thing says it was built by the New World Airport Commission. I even know it sounds a bit crazy but its all pretty much laid out for you in the airport. I mean from people who are rumoured to be freemasons theres a lot of rich republicans. Theyre not exactly known for their tolerance of other cultures so a fantasy of WW3 wiping all the riff-raff out would probably fly in their secret clubs.
I mean, if it's a secret society and a secret hideout, then why make it so... blatant? Obviously there is Freemason involvement, but it seems insane to waste $4bn on an bunker... I'd guess that the airport probably makes good business sense, and will actually turn the organisation a profit, rather than any New World Order underground bunker shit.
This article seems to suggest I am wrong, which is very probable
``While the number is not accurately known, it is estimated that between 80,000 and 200,000 Freemasons were killed under the Nazi regime. Masonic concentration camp inmates were graded as political prisoners and wore an inverted red triangle.``
``The [Forget-me-not badge] is now worn in the coat lapel by Freemasons around the world to remember all those that have suffered in the name of Freemasonry, especially those during the Nazi era.``
Weird that a lot of that article concentrates on the Nazi imagery then
It all goes a bit lizard people here
it's not on Facebook.
but I pretty much don't believe they come visit us in spaceships.
Being illuminati puppets.
especially if you know people who died in the sinking
and seeing as how my other half is an Estonian Swede ... well
:( lost a few colleagues and a bunch of students
that conducts polls using ^this threads
apart from maybe Roswell etc, because I'm an old school romantic like Spooky Mulder.
read through all the stuff on the site of that PI that investigated kurt cobains disappearance then death, found it pretty convincing, then I read one sentence about the guy from guns n roses seeing him on a plane looking abit glum before it happened and that was enough to convince me otherwise. Im easily swayed and just believe which ever ive read most recently, conspiracy or debunk
then I read one sentence about the guy from guns n roses seeing him on a plane looking abit glum before it happened and that was enough to convince me otherwise.
There goes the rest of my afternoon.
but they are wholly indifferent to mankind.
Also, have you ever seen Angela Merkel and Ray Winstone in the same place at the same time?
and tried to confess through secret messages in The Shining
totally sold on this.
6 crates of 7up, so obvious.
NO THAT IS THE ROOF!!!
Dig it so much.
It should be understood from the beginning that The Shining is Stanley Kubrick's most personal film (outside of, possibly, Eyes Wide Shut). Before we are done here it will be easy to see that Kubrick was only using Stephen King's novel as a launching pad (excuse the pun) to be able to tell a completely different story under the guise of making a film based on a best-selling novel.
He did this for a very important reason - mainly to save his life. Let's not get too far ahead of ourselves.
not 237,000 - so the room key bit is totally wrong. DISPROVED! hehe
May I humbly suggest that the word "All" in this repeated sentence actually stands for "A11" that is: "A-One-One", or Apollo 11?
"A11 work and no play makes Jack a dull boy."
May I suggest that the nickname, or the code name, for the faking of the Apollo Moon Missions was A11?
Accepting that this is true we can see what Stanley is really telling us:
'"Apollo 11 work and no play makes Jack (Kubrick) a dull boy."
Seven Apollo missions went to the moon, but only six landed.
Six crates of 7-up.
my fave bit of the whole thing. i've read it about a million times and i still laugh out loud at that.
that the room was changed because the film was shot in a real hotel in which 217 does exist and the owners didnt want to put people off staying in it
"[Jack Nicholson's character] is growing an unkempt beard and is not combing his hair - two things that Stanley Kubrick was known for doing, or not doing, himself"
KNOWN FOR DOING
It's a SIGN!
I was surprised by how rational the guy was, basically dismissing all the recent accounts of sightings as hoaxes, drunks, misunderstandings, etc. He seemed so sceptical that eventually, I was like, do you believe in aliens at all? And he said: 'Well, it's obvious our ancestors were visited by extraterrestrial beings which inspired their cultures. You can't deny it.' But this modern stuff is just chancers apparently.
inside job bro
Some people take it really seriously. They have got to the point where they have lost all sight of the bigger picture and are just trying to find miniscule discrepancies in NASA's 43 year old photographs and truly believe that because some crosshairs are not visible, they must have faked the whole thing. Some people seem to spend a large amount of time indulging them and actually working out which camera and film combination could have been used to make this possible, the conspiracy theorists then try and contact NASA who inetitably don't bother to reply, they then use this as evidence of a cover-up. It is fascinating to watch, I think they are probably just trolls like the flat earth society.
That doesn't read like the rantings of a madman *at all*
like pyramids, advances in agriculture, science, civilization, metallurgy - pretty much everything is down to aliens helping out. great bunch o lads
I'm currently reading Graham Hancock's book about just this sort of thing.
Purely because a slightly eccentric colleague engaged me in a coversation about it and I am too polite to say "no. Stop it. You are obviously mental".
As of yet my mind remains unblown.
real lads, real assistance in seeding the earth.
Though someone else subsequently confessed on their deathbed, it all seemed a little too convenient...
We can categorically state that we have not released man-eating badgers into the area.
But that is only because spotty teenagers in their bedrooms have somehow become demolitions experts overnight. I think if everyone takes a step back and works out how a government can commit such a massive outrageous conspiracy, keep it quiet through different administrations and the amount of people involved at all levels, you realise it just isn't possible.
if it was such a huge conspiracy, they would easily and happily silence the bloggers and spotty teenagers in a second.
The sheer volumes of people who'd have to be involved and never say anything to anyone or leak any evidence make them discreditable.
I mean I went on a weekend away with 10 lads recently. One of them confided to another on the Friday that he believed one of the lads was gay. By Sunday morning all 10 of us were joking about it, including the subject.
Now imagine you're part of a conspiracy that falsified the most high profile terrorist attack in history
Ok, fair enough, I do suspect a bit of foul play, but these kids like you say who have become demolition experts overnight:
The building in question was WTC 7 which was empty when it collapsed and fell a good few hours after the twin towers were down with a few thousand people dead. If it was a conspiracy, what's the point in bringing down an empty building? If you're doing it because you want to convince the public to go to war then you've pretty much already done that by destroying two of the most iconic buildings in the world and killing 3000 people.
Why would they bother? Know what I mean?
American 77 was never accounted for. The people on board are dead, so what... the Government diverted the flight and got everyone off and killed them and destroyed the plane somewhere else or crashed it into the sea or something? Why bother to cover up a missing plane that's supposedly crashed into a building when you can just crash it into a building?
But no, the theorists still think that because you can't see the plane on the security tape, it must have been a missile.
exactly....also why let an airliner crash into the Pentagon?
eg at the Bay Of Pigs where US aircraft were made to look like they had been attacked: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Pigs_Invasion
The Gulf Of Tonkin incident on the eve of the Congressional vote allowing the US to intervene in Vietnam involved the faking of an attack on a US warship: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident
And the testimonies of Kuwaiti nurses on the eve of a congressional vote on the Gulf War, who turned out to be the daughters of the Kuwaiti ambassadors to the US: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_(testimony)
Especially when the plans for the invasion of Iraq existed before September 11th had happened.
But, what I'm suggesting is that if this was a conspiracy in the sense that they were killing their own / blowing up landmarks in order to convince people to go to war... They'd already done it with the twin towers and all the people that died when they collapsed. So, they've already sealed the deal there, why bother blowing up WTC7 that was empty and hours after the objective had been achieved?
I think the consipracists answer is that it was used as a control center to orchestrate the attacks and the evidence needed destroying
but I'm not really sure I get the essence of what you're saying. That because the US have a history, like every nation, of doing something a bit ropey and covering it up then it means we should give the idea that, in spite of all logic and evidence to the contrary, they've done it on an unrecognisably/unfathomably large scale significantly more weight?
Couldn't disagree more myself, but there you are.
because of say, two skyscrapers next to it faling down, then that would be the sensible thing to do
do you mean separate and incommunicative branches of a huge and unweildy bureaucracy getting their PR wrong in terms of how to release information to the media about a sensitive security issue?
I don't know much about it, but just looking on Wiki it seems there was a clear investigation concluding that wasn't the case. If in the media shitstorm some clueless congressman voiced a half-assed opinion that maybe it looked like it kind of might have been deliberate, it doesn't make the idea any more true to fact than that bozo's claims about women not getting pregnant from 'legitimate' rape.
As in, stop the active operation of emergency teams inside the building - pull them out of there.
Talk about taking something out of context/applying your own meaning to it.
but it could be more simple than that, all it takes is turning a blind eye to this and that and giving money to this organization and not asking what for. nobody is denying that political corruption runs very fucking deep, so it's reasonable to think more could have been done to prevent 9/11. of course that doesn't quite make it a conspiracy, but it's not a million miles off.
so huge a secret, is pretty far fetched. But you shouldn't discount the physical evidence because of that.
Especially when the physical evidence is so indisputable.
And for the record, you don't have to be a demolition expert to understand all of the items that have been pointed out by the theorists. They're pretty obvious to the least construction/demolition experienced person.
All arguments to who, how and why aside, some of the physical evidence that has been presented since the accident happened, is literally fucking impossible to dispute.
Prove me wrong.
of the English language, as in: DA PHYSICAL EVIDENCE when the buildings are not actually standing anymore - yeh?
You're saying the physical evidence [I presume you mean evidence of a controlled demolition] is literally impossible to dispute. The fact that I'm disputing it has instantly proved you wrong.
Should have said 'discount'.
reports show that on 23rd August 2012 there was a slump in the productivity levels of low-mid range admin workers nationwide.
The mainstream media would have you believe this is down to an internet thread compiling conspiracist nonsense. But is it? As ever, you decide...
that's the one i clicked into too.
from 'craigs coverup'? why do you pull that beany hat so low my freind? hiding something? or should I say somethingS
5 minutes of research on the internet confirmed that I was a stupid dick for believing him out of Waterworld.
and I don't believe any one them APART FROM:
Diana was murdered. I honestly believe this. To the mockery of many people.
By a government / royal conspiracy? Nah, it was too convoluted. She could have survived if she had worn a seatbelt anyway, unless that was part of it all.
Of course they blamed the press. They were to be the fall guys. You're not gonna shoot someone in the head to get rid of them, it'll be an accident and the press can get blamed so they stfu.
Too many things don't make sense:
1) White Fiat: You're in the very middle of one of the most famous incidents in the entire modern world and you don't say anything? The police don't find the car? There's no tracing it at all? In the biggest manhunt ever by French police?
2) All the money in the drivers bank account that can't be allocated to a source that appeared
3) The driver signalling to someone at the hotel down the side road but no-one knows who or why
4) The driver fucking off in Paris for a few hours but no-one can accoutn for where he went
5) The most high profile, famous royal - nay WOMAN - in the world and she's making a mockery of the royal family
6) She's going out with a Muslim
There's other stuff too but I can't remember. Basically, I do't need facts, I HAVE A HUNCH. A FUCKING HUNCH.
given that she apparently would've lived if she had the seatbelt on, or if the car had hit the pillar or wall in a slightly different angle. And of course they went ahead with it when Dodi was in the car as well, because his dad certainly wouldn't cause them any trouble afterwards.
But an accident means everyon is like "shut up, it's an accident".
That's a fact. So how would they have killed her, if they needed to? Pretty much a car or plane crash is the only way. You can't poison, shoot, or physically murder someone can you?
Give me a better way to kill someone like Diana. GO ON SON.
QUESTION MY HUNCH.
Plus she'd admitted on TV to depression, mental health problems and a possible personality disorder. You could stage a suicide.
And, if you've allegedly got the driver to sacrifice his life for money, you could pay an obsessive stalker to be the murderer. All of these are, of course, ridiculous. But way, way, way less ridiculous than a staged car crash.
That's the entire point. Suicide would have been: Defo Murder. Like Marilyn Monroe's death has that shit around it.
Sinking of a yacht? You can't do that quickly. You also have the boat to find out if it's been fiddled with.
It's meant to be an implausable murder. That's why they did it.
The driver didn't give his life for money but he was in cahoots with someone that night for whatever deal was struck.
You can't do that without giving your life for money.
But, more to the point, it's one thing looking implausible and another thing staging a hig-risk plan with a low probability of succeeding and a good chance of detection.
I may not be an expert, but if we're talking about the killing of a mentally unstable woman, who had a hobby of walking around minefields as well, a car crash would be way down the list below the trusty old slow poisoning, a fake suicide, or drug overdose (questions would be raised, but they'd just be questions), a crazy lone stalker (ie John Lennon, George Harrison cases), and even sinking a yacht.
All of them pose considerably more hassle and evidence than a car or plane crash.
Get driver pissed: Sorted. Tell press where she is, they chase etc.
Look: I dunno. I just have a hunch that she was murdered. Where's the fucking white Fiat?! It's all too convenient a way to get rid of a massive public problem for the royal family. They're unsurprisingly protected from up on high.
If anyone is shape shifting reptiles it's them. (I don't actually believe that bit).
Finding it was pretty much impossible.
I think there was something rotten about Diana's death as well but I don't think the French police were in on it in the sense that they just put on a lacklustre search for a white Fiat.
Maybe a shape shifting reptile was driving the Fiat?
It's one of the most complex and unreliable assassination attempts possible.
And points 1, 4 and, to an extent, 2 pretty much show it's unlikely to be a conspiracy. Why the fuck would you leave a load of loose ends unaccounted for. You'd know people'd find the money in the account, you know people would trace his movements and you know that witnesses would see a White Fiat in place so why the Hell wouldn't you explain them? Why create unnecessary suspicious circumstances?
It's the best way as eveeyone says "it's implausible!"
People believe what's shoved in their faces. It's a crash. End of story.
when first presented with a batshit theory but then when presented with a numbered list of dubious points, my brain is all, like, "hmm interesting, could be legit bro?"
Look at Harry, they do it themselves. Charles may have grown to hate her guts, but she was out of things. It's ridiculous.
Plus the whole drunk driver / no seatbelt thing. And if the Fiat driver was a pap who may have been involved in the crash, no wonder he wanted to disappear.
She'd done pretty much all the damage she was going to do and sanctifying her through death really just made things worse for the Royal Family.
Since the Panorama programme, people had started to think she was a bit hysterical and over-emotional anyway.
Coke overdose I reck. Either that or a massively elaborate series of events that lead to his probable death but potentially not and of course kill two other people if possible.
The rise in popularity of Fifty Shades of Grey will be blamed. Everyone will believe it.
Which makes me think it wasn't a conspiracy.
Most high profile royal everywhere.
Divorces future king. Makes mockery of family. Turns public opinion.
Frattonises with prominent Muslim
Possibility of affair or baby
The Royal Family (or "the Firm" as Charles calls them) is one of the very oldest institutions in the world that the entirity of the Western World revolves around. Every single part of Britain and British life is based on this blood line and family. Diana was a more than a mere nuisance, she posed a huge threat.
Kill her, problem gone. Sorted.
And I find it a bit strange when people say "she was going out with a Muslim" as though that somehow explains everything. It really doesn't.
Until she died and never had a chance to truly fall from fashion.
And agree about the Muslim thing, people say 'it was unacceptable to the Royals for the future king to have Islamic half-siblings' but that statement is so ridiculous I can't be bothered to go into it.
*Every single part of Britain and British life is based on this blood line and family*
Alright David Icke.
You know all the affairs and stuff were very public knowledge before she died? Any damage had been done. If she'd lived she'd just have become another Fergie figure, growing increasingly mad and ridiculous.
she was in a relationship with another Muslim for 2 years before Dodi . . . the conspirators would've literally taken years to go "hang on, if they have a baby it'll be brown"
It's gonna be full of holes.
It's a hunch. I just think it's too convenient. Stop using FUCKING FUCKS to make me look stupid.
It went from a self deprecating post to an aggressive shout.
so i would visit the Unexplained Mysteries and Above Top Secret forums less
thanks a bunch guys D:
ATS is blocked at work....haha
hostility and hysteria central
but this sounds kinda cool http://www.amazon.com/The-Giza-Power-Plant-Technologies/dp/1879181509
it's pretty interesting ideas at least
But my mate Tom's mate told some massive skin head they knew through the DnB scene that Tom was in fact one of the Bulger killers under a new identity.
So for a year every time Tom went out some 20st gorilla on pills would try and brain him screaming *THAT POOR BOY! YOU MONSTER!*
*they knew through the DnB scene*
they sound like really great bants-mad chaps.
Needs a bit more racism, though.
And my only mate in this story was the recipient of bants. I don't know the other two - he lives in Exeter
i find it hard to believe that the powers that be would've been happy about the future King's mum marrying/possibly being pregnant to a Muslim man, and a relatively high-profile one at that.
Would've been great had that all happened, though. Big fan of Mo Fayed. Imagine him being Wills and Harry's step-Grandad and the ensuing bants. It's a sitcom in itself.
Dale Winton shot JFK
believe some of the alternative theories about TWA Flight 800. :\
I remember in amongst an excellent Fortean Times article on the various conspiracies that came to light over the crash, that there was a hilariously batshit theory that it had been downed by a capsule containing rats that had been returning to earth having been part of an experiment on the international space station
'This is not as implausible as it sounds'.
but then again pretty much every single 'truther' 'conspiracy theory' about it is abject nonsense which does not stand up to the slightest scrutiny; and the surrounding jargon, (including 'official story') pseudo-politics, emotion and sloppy thinking on both 'sides' of the argument pretty much make any meaningful discussion or research into the matter impossible.
Is the belief that we're currently over in the middle east, 'sorting the mess out', when in actual fact we're trying to get our hands on loads of oil.....is this belief widely seen as a conspiracy theory?
the oil thing would have been fine but cos they covered this up as a motive for war everyone got upset
I'm sure if they did this, then all of the middle east would have clubbed together and given the States and the UK a load of oil for free.
Me for president!
but symbolically you can't be seen to dicker with the brown countries else they might start thinking they're equal to us*
*or so i think the thinking goes
and is only still alive due to the electromagnetic field emanating from his unparalleled grasp of the English language.
the flight that was on the way to the White House that crashed in Pennsylvannia after the passengers charged the cockpit, I reckon that got shot down by US jets.
almost definitely just used the wrong phrase by accident but it's funny to think he's probably shouting FUCK in his head
GOLD.. The Annunaki need gold to repair there infrastructure. They will return for it. Thats why man were put here in the first place. Gold is the most precious metal known to man. Why all of a sudden everyone wants to buy? your gold. Think about the gold stock market in the past decade, check for yourself.
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Is where you'll find Richey Edwards, Shergar and Biffy Clyro's ability to write bangers.
i desperately want some massive creature thing to be found in the ocean, a kraken or leviathan or something
Maybe for a cruise ship to turn up with enormous teeth marks covering it's bulk, and no passengers to be seen.
That'd be ace. And also confirm all the suspicions that only twats live under water.
I'm not one for conspiracy theories generally, as they usually require you to hold some form of massive suspension of reality for them to be possible. For example, as a structural engineer I find some of the 9/11 stuff to be laughable. But in the case of HIV I don't see a obvious counter argument that it couldn't be done.
but that doesn't mean it actually did. Plus you think they'd try and stop the research of AIDS drugs and funding a touch more, as well as various campaigns for people to rubber up.
just that its conceivable someone somewhere could have manufactured it.
I don't seriously believe it as-well. Its just of all the conspiracy theories I have read about it seems the most likely (however unlikely).
Who when drunk will start telling you that AIDS was developed by the USA to supress Africa. And he 100% thinks it's fact
i don't believe it but i want to because i don't like the cia
and the black population was seen as acceptable collateral damange, but no, it wasn't used to control them, as such.
only being the first man to survive a trip to space.
The storys of amateur radio enthusiasts picking up distress signals from the cosmonaughts as theyre ships failed is pretty harrowing.
not sure what you're talking about, but i'm interested
but wikipedia can
It is easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled
This is also number 2012 for me.
Two birds, one stone.
but isnt the official line on JFK blatantly not true or something
It's a pretty straight forward case. Some nutter shot him from a window. End of story.
that a lot of people have issues with it - the idea that the most powerful man in the world being assassinated cries out for KGB/mafia/larte series Red Dwarf levels of organisation, but at the end of the day, just a nutter.