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Osborne is spent. He needs our help.
Ideas here please.
is this about Pussy Riot?
then a creakyknees bore-a-thon.
They have to buy a new house, a Jaguar and other stuff that's made in this country. Would that work?
just give everyone £1000 on the condition that it must be spent in the UK and can't be saved
And there would be riots, and people would burn shit down.
Can't all profits from banking be pumped back into the national treasury?
Just a suggestion.
Spend a full week doing actual work
Rather than just giving the money to the banks to pay for bottles of Bollinger, use it instead to pay down the deficit.
which is probably millions of pounds and then just give it around
Put Cameron and Osbourne in the stockade, charge a fiver a pop, deficit's gone tomorrow
That's what I do when I'm playing Civilisation and I need cash.
DRINK YR MILKSHAKE
+ put a limit on the amount of money someone can send out of the country (eg-people coming over here to work)
+ build more things (infrastructure, nuclear power plants) and award contracts only to british companies
+ stop international aid
+ give Scotland and Wales independence
+ start some proper wars that require more soldiers and less expensive aircraft/weaponry
lets give them their independence...THEN INVADE!
Then get them to invent something really cool that we can sell to other countries.
They can just turn the houses of parliament into a big lab, and we can give them some materials to work with. Like scrapyard challenge.
divide by the population.
start again. try harder this time.
Get rid of tuesdays (this is my answer to most things to be fair)
Someone is going to tell me this is a bad idea, but Magnum's are now getting pretty close to the £2 pyschological threshold - something's got to give.
Have a good clear out of everything we don't need, put it all on a really big table in, say, Wales, then send flyers to all the other countries.
Would probably cause an earthquake.
International aid. Free money!
And just tell everyone they have to walk from now on.
and pull a job out of a hat
...who spend the greatest proportion of their income on goods and services. To fund this, increase corporation tax in direct proportion to the amount of extra money that will be pumped into the economy as a result.
Makes sense to me. The best way to get out of a recession is to get the people who spend the greatest % of their income on consumer goods spending again. Reducing benefits and increasing taxes isn't going to do this.
To use a very old DiS phrase, "Good one Craig"
I genuinely believe that isn't how it works.
But if I was on JSA and HB and I was told my JSA was going up £20 a week, I'd try and save that rather than spend it. One of the worst thing about being on benefits is never having the ability to build up any sort of financial safety blanket.
...that plots people's propensity to save against the income they receive.
Where people who receive JSA and HB are on that graph are so far from the `tip of the curve`, if I remember correctly, that I cannot fathom that the mass of people impacted by this prospective tactic would act the same way that you do.
Also for a lot of people on low incomes, saving is a futile business because their returns are so low. So - spending is a better option.
I think my tactic can be backed up with economic and psychological evidence! It'll never happen, but I'd love to see it tried...
make prisons into labour camps
ask the Qatar Sovereign Weath fund to buy us.
like in Canada
and maybe alcohol
stop selling off school grounds for free and stop corporations tax dodging.
Also, stop buying (so many) weapons.
We'd be fucking rolling in it mate.
sell the electrity back to the national grid
then invade it and make them all slaves and take their oil
They'll can take our oil, but they'll never take our freedom!
Don't doubt the brutal nature of the english when it comes to money
miniature Union flags for others!
suggest "Putting the economy back on track". We use metaphores all the time so forgive me but......WHY? the track is totally fucked up?
Trying to put something 'back on track' is the orthodox approach, and is being attempted because only orthodoxy is tolerated by systems that have sought to discredit and 'defeat' alternatives.
All attempts to mend something that is unmendable will result in further depletion of what resources are available and will distract from doing what is necessary to protect against the consequences of the collapse of the global consumer capitalist system (I say collapse, vestiges will remain, but not as a coherent whole which enables 6billion to exist in 'relatively unchanging' patterns (from the wests pov))
Instead you should be looking at what (essential human support systems) can be removed from the economic equations that cannot be made to balance.
i.e. rebalance priorities.
we can easily do without new cars or new sanitary products or any more plastic toys, but not without adequete food......many will not want to chose like this willingly, but that is not my fault, I am just trying to be a messenger......although I have been harping on about it annoyingly, its not me thats fucked up all the economy.....I know I've been a pain, but all the time since you've heard me whinging on, you have heard subsequent worse and worse economic news on the tv, more and more cockups and greed revealed about bankers and gov mishandling and letting things go, andineffectual watchdogs, and worsening national economies.
None of that is my fault.
But people have to realise that their lifestyle is unsustainable, because the world economy, in its own terms is broke (which sounds impossible, because you think for every loser there must be a winner,
for every debt there must be a credit......well yes, normally, in our normal idea or reality, except that the global economic system is designed to ignore that, the global economic system is designed to take into account the future and your future has already been sold, even if you havnt got a mortgage, your lifestyle has been bought with promises of your future endaevor and productivity.
The only way to make things balance is to restore normality, which would mean everyone agreeing to this at the same time......and everyone coming up with a way to make things work from day to day, to replace that which now controls that........this is almost impossible because there will be some imediate losers and they will not agree to it, and because the people you have in power are not capable of understanding or coming up with an alternative way of making everything work from day to day without the systems that they do not understand.
Therefore to mitigate against disasters humans need to (with all haste) secure the life support systems that they need. They need to ALL come to understand and acknowledge the problem to the people (when the support systems are nearly ready).....they cant do this too early or that would precipitate an early collapse before humans are nearly ready to switch over to other means of vital support........when the people can see reasonably that there is the great likelyhoood that they will still survive (because the plans to unlink the vital human support systems from the risky global economic systems are nearly complete) then they will not feel so panicky etc etc blah blah (there is loads more but this is already long enough)
use crack as the currency. When inflation is high, we just make people smoke crack to reduce the amount of currency in circulation. Those that are strong minded and don't get addicted, don't smoke as much crack so have more money, which gives incentive not to become a crackhead.
A friend and I made up a whole theory about this once, pretty good idea eh?