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but can i just ask, was he definitely racist? people seem shocked that he won the trial? but was he definitely racist and everyone had decided before the trial?
He said black cunt, but I'm not sure what sort or racial intent that had.
There's no concrete evidence.
John Terry never disputed that he said the words. The argument was about his intent.
That was his defence, given that the burden of proof lies with the prosecution and that there is no way of actually establishing intent he got off.
Who said black cunt first.
Anton denies he said it. Terry said he did say it. Ashley Cole is the witness who matters here, and his story corroborated more with Terry than Ferdinand (he said he thought he saw Anton say the words 'Black' or 'Bridge' and 'Cunt'.)
The prosecution could not bring forward a witness who could clarify what either Ferdinand or Terry said (Anton didn't actually hear Terry's words.) Their only evidence was the YouTube footage, which was obstructed at the crucial point hand thus deemed unreliable.
Terry's story is unlikely but still possible. It also remained consistent fin his original statement at the time and under questioning this week. Their was more evidence (although it was flimsy either way) in favour of the defence than the prosecution. Not guilty is the correct verdict in that respect.
so much as just a massive fucking idiot who is completely oblivious to everything
Anyone with any sort of emotional intelligence wouldn't repeat those words back in that fashion imo. He seemed oblivious to the potential effects that might cause. I also think this lack of EQ is the reason he is unsuitable for the role of England captain.
You do hear stories about those that "put a bit back"into society/charities etc but they do seem to be the exception.
a white wash?!
You really couldn't make it up.
What a vile football club.
There's guaranteed to be another smear job on Terry.
Will it be a dolly bird who suddenly remembers sleeping with him or will it be a footballer who suddenly remembers that he was racially abused by him?
Or will they go after his family again?
Please don't embarrass yourself by trying to paint this awful cunt as the victim in any of this.
The defensive nature of some (and it's not a small minority) Chelsea supporters over this whole thing sadly sums up the mentality, even the intelligence of the average football fan.
But he was found not guilty. Get over it. He's not a victim, anymore than Anton Ferdinand is. No one comes out of this looking good. The FA will throw the book at them both and that's absolutely correct.
But printing bollocks about Terry sells papers. And it will happen again tomorrow.
Go back to telling us about what a great guy Thaksin Shinawatra was, you hypocrite.
"everyone's a victim"/"none of them are victims"/general lumping everyone in as jointly-responsible to shift the blame.
The FA should throw the book at one of them, as Chelsea would if they had any class whatsoever. Ferdinand might be a thick dullard, but he deserves no punishment. None.
Reality doesn't impinge at all.
Seriously, get help.
If he was a City player, i and most others would've put their hands up and admitted that yes, he is a scumbag, yes, he has let himself down, and yes, he has shamed the club once more. Some of you even lack the humility to do that.
I just find it really, really sad when people can't put right or wrong before club allegiance.
"A fantastic result for John Terry, Chelsea Football Club and the supporters. But what a waste of time, what a waste of taxpayers' money, the case should never have been brought.
"What goes on in the dressing room should stay in the dressing room, what goes on on the pitch stays on the pitch."
Really? Anything that happens on the pitch or dressing room ought to stay there? Kinda reflects the stag-do mentality of "What happens on tour, stays on tour"
I honestly couldn't imagine someone associated with any other big club saying something like that.
to say that Liverpool did something similar with the Suarez affair.
that is not a quote from CFC's magazine editor. It is a quote from the editor of an unoffical fanzine with a poor reputation among Chelsea supporters and a very small readership. A quick look at their website should convince anyone the guy is a crackpot- half of his editorials are about how season ticket holders should boycott home games until the club removes sponsors from the shirts.
Not sure what source asked him for a quote initially (looks like the BBC) but they were being quite naughty.
Sometimes the stupidest supporters of a certain club are the loudest or most prolific and end up embarrassing their fellow supporters. That's life.
Not sure you'd get many wildly celebrating the fact that a court of law couldn't prove that their racist captain had been racist.
1) You can't clearly see that at all
2) That doesn't mean anything anyway