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the online guidance is not clear
I mean no
is there anything that can be claimed? give that there is not longer any tax credits or child stuff?
before then it was common practise to sign on over the Summer before returning to education.
But I bet there are some.
there being some isnt useful if you cant get one, him saying there doesnt seem to be alot indicates he has been loooking
If he's getting turned down from everything he applies to, fair enough, but if he thinks he's too good to wash floors or be a binman, that's his problem.
Poor creaky jr.
the problem for people of that age isn't pickiness, it's getting experience in *something* to get their CV to the stage it will even be glanced at
He also did one summer working collecting eggs at a chicken farm. I washed dishes and scrubbed floors in a canteen on an army base. This may not apply to Creaky's son, I don't know, but there are a lot of people who could do jobs like that and chose not to.
I got a summer job before my 1st year of uni stacking tins of paint and decorators' equipment in a warehouse
I was lucky, though - I walked in there with some CVs and they happened to have a vacancy
Maybe Creaky Jr has been doing this and simply striking out - it's wrong of you to presume he's shirking
Just that a lot of people do.
I'm in work now and have been at points in my past.
I've also been on the dole two or three times, each for a few months at a go. I was firing off CVs fruitlessly, getting sacked from the jobs I did get after 3 weeks, and I needed the money to keep me going. I had no plan to be on the dole permanently or for any great length of time, but it was a great backup while I scoured for options. Young people are finding it INCREDIBLY hard to get employed - there's about 70 graduates per job for fuck's sake!
Which is where the welfare state comes in. Not as a permanent crutch, but as a hand to hold while the world revolves
I have signed on, and I will admit I probably could have got a job sooner if I had accepted anything (dont get me wrong I did take the most mind numbing temp jobs) but I dont think it is wrong to hold out for something that suits your skills and experience whilst signing on, it would be a pretty inefficient labour market if people had to take anything immediately, rather than take a little time to find something that is a better match of their skills and a waste of all that state subsidised education. If it is starting to take too long then yeah people should definitely adjust their expectations, but I dont think people should immediately be pressured to take anything as it just doesnt make sense, presumably this is acknowledged by the system where you agree on the types of jobs you are looking for
i, for one, definitely avoided applying for jobs i didn't fancy doing, but that's because i had enough money to keep me going and preferred to keep looking for something more enjoyable. i'm sure lots of students and school leavers do that and then they just have a bit less spending money than they would have. not much of a problem, and leaving the jobs open for people who need them more
I'd rather struggle by and get a job I can enjoy, if possible, than take a job that will destroy my soul every single day and make me miserable.
i hoovered up live rats.
and did six days a week of 15 hour a day shifts standing about in an arcade notifying the engineers whenever some dunce decided to put a 2p into a 10p machine and wated their 2p back (with the seventh day at somerfield, back in the days of wearing a buttons-from-cinderella smock thing with a bo-tie).
in answer to the op, i didn't sign on in the lead up to uni, but in light of the financial bastardry in place these days it's fuck 'em over or be fucked over innit. just act aloof and lost and don't mention university in the vicinity of anyone at a jobcentreplus. the lad hasn't started uni yet and 'might not go'.
*bow-tie (not bo selecta tie, as i don't even know what one of those is).
re: jobcentreplus - turn up dressed smartly and act all middle class with a positive attitude and they'll wave you through the process with minimal fuss or questioning. (source: my signing on three months ago.).
but that kinda thing (or any 'undesirable' job) isn't actually just floating about waiting to be plucked by the first inexperienced 18-year-old who's willing to do it. your first job is largely a matter of luck and being in the right place at the right time
when I walked into a place looking for work, it was 2005 and austerity was a big island in the Pacific
her only other job was a volunteer thing in a dog & cat shelter, which involved lots of shit-scooping so i don't expect she's snooty about that sort of thing, but y'know there really are a lot of people applying for a very small pool of jobs, especially at this time of year. tbh she prob isn't applying for every single post she sees, but that's more out of the sense of grinding futility when you spend hours working on inane applications never to get any reply
but then i got a job anyway
needs to be replaced urgently with a better system, ideally one that assigns young people GUARANTEED WORK rather than dole money
fat chance any fucking government will implement that
well I cant speak for him, but I dont think most summer job seekers have particularly high standards, so I wouldnt be surprised if he has looked for anything that would provide a bit of money over the time period required
Well he should be able to, I did for a bit this year when I couldn't find work (I live in the country where it's very hard to find anything that isn't field work) and I'm going to uni this year.
answer. Workhouses. Coal mines. Chimney sweeps. These are all viable avenues. To be serious I have no idea. Try voluntary work at a hospital as you may then get some hours as "bank staff". My department then mops these volunteers up as permanent staff after they graduate on quite a few occasions.
It might be worth him NOT telling the people hes claiming 'job seekers allowance' that he probably has no intention of getting a job by telling them hes going to university soon
like if youve been accepted on a course or something, not sure how they would know but thats what I thought
Working at a University I've been told they can claim benefits up until the start date of their course. If the parents are still claiming child tax credits and/or child benefits they cant apply for jsa though, I guess thats what discounts alot of future students.
ah right, that would make sense. I dont see why someone shouldnt be able to claim if they are looking for work over that period
if creakys not getting child tax credits or child benefits for him shouldnt be problem.
I think you stop getting child tax credits at 18 so he should be able to claim. I told Jobseekers that I was going to uni and they didn't seem to care. It may depend from place to place though as the whole thing's rather disorganised tbh
can't you just support him financially?
kids asking their parents for life advice who in turn ask message boards.
literally, this is THE thing that is wrong with this country.
Creaky, can you ask your son what I should have for breakfast?
Things are tough, but these places need temp staff for shift work regardless of the state of the economy ... he could always wash cars and walk dogs if there's nothing going?