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http://dlisted.com/2012/06/30/writer-50-shades-grey-making-134-million-week The fuck is wrong with people?
Oh yeah, 'cause that'd be too challenging and scary than this badly written hogwash.
does an adequate enough job.
one person's badly written hogwash is another's adequate enough job
when the internet offers access to such a cornucopia of genuine filth.
undoubtedly the book is terrible but so is most porn. of course it's funny that people are paying for this, but like, the porn industry still makes billions of dollars every year
whereas Fifty Shades seems to be masquerading under the guise of being somehow more upmarket despite it's obvious trashiness.
They should just save their money and go on literotica.
one of the things i've written has over 140k views.
its on 91% 'liked'.
i'd be happy with a hundred k, daisy. i'd be happy.
i'm not linking though, sorry.
So it's not really a big surprise this should be popular.
Perhaps they have led very sheltered lives.
Nobody ever got poor underestimating the stupidity of the general public
is how all these girls on my facebook who would never in a million years talk openly about their porn consumption, let alone BDSM porn, are broadcasting how much they're enjoying it as if it's just a standard twilight-esque romance thing. also this recent status from a male school acquaintance: <Just bought [his gf] that shades of grey book,opened a random page for a deek n from what I read,it's just like a porno in words.......>
"just a standard twilight-esque romance thing", albeit with the implicit misogyny of Twilight pushed to the foreground to make it seem more "daring".
so like, twilight-esque, but actually porn. it's just odd how i first became aware of it as a pop BDSM erotica thing but now apparently it's being sold as a romance novel that compels people to post statuses such as <Could of cried at the end of Fifty shades of Grey. :( I need the next one NOW!!> (real quote)
No redeeming features whatsoever. It's actually an insult to fan-fiction.
Looking at a random page, the first sentence I saw was, and I swear this is true: 'The Emperor values your loyalty, Brother Astratus', Trajanus said as he spliced another ork with his power glaive.*
Don't know why I didn't buy it on the spot to be honest.
*Extract may only be representative.
just found the space wolf book. Extract: "This daemon weapon will consume your soul even as it drinks your blood. It thirsts, you see."
"FIRST IT WILL HAVE TO HIT ME!" Ragnar said, a low growl emerging from his throat as he lashed out at the chaos marine.
THEN I CAN LISTEN WHILE I PAINT*
I've read all the Gotrek and Felix books though. Fucking love them. Also got this on the reading pile: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/515WXNJKEPL._SL500_AA300_.jpg and a Space Wolf omnibus which is about 1000 pages.
*and never know the touch of a woman ever again.
and who the fuck is writing them?
He's a big fan of the Gaunt's Ghosts books.
jesus fucking crikey stop the world im going off
Once more, people who pride themselves on thinking they live their lives against the grain (whilst sitting in online all day, every day) don't seem to like something because it's <shock horror> popular.
("Erm...no, actually, i don't like it because it's SHIT/i'm a huge bumsnogger")
I had no idea.
I have a different approach to pain...im trying the old 'the trick is, to not mind that it hurts'
<Suddenly he stopped pounding her. Something was wrong. 'Your condom' she said red faced 'it came off in me.' He grinned 'pick that one out!'>
the world is not fair
Lady Chatterley's Lover.
Its just hype and people getting curious.
Same stuff happens all the time.
It's quite a catchy title
I read the first couple of pages, it is really badly written. Cringingly bad in fact. A cursory flick through found sexual content on about 4 out of every 5 pages I encountered. I am genuinely baffled why this is so popular with women though.
I can't even think what the first 100 pages must be like.
I'm sure most people skip ahead to the porn.
this pornography is not transgressive enough for I
you lot are such a bunch of snobs
what is happening here is people sneering at the books other people choose to read. there's a subtle difference and you know it
It's the same line of thought that says you can't criticise Rupert Murdoch or Simon Cowell cuz dey're givin' da public wot dey want, guv'nor!
is he the same as murdoch? not really. i'm certainly not against the arts being criticised but jesus, do it better than just by poking fun at the money behind it.
that the public will swallow any old tripe that's peddled to them under the guise of "populism", and are quick to play the "snob' card against anyone who criticises them for doing so.
It's fair game to poke fun at the money behind "the arts" when said 'art" has been produced with the sole intention of making money- which 50Shades of Grey so blatantly has.
if this thread had had any content in the OP regarding the quality of the book then fair enough but you basically said "wtf? million of dicks are buying this shit book" and i think it's a nasty attitude
fuck it, you're right mate. well done.
pointing out how pop cultural artifacts produced in a consumer capitalist economy are 'blatantly' made with the intention of money-spinning just kinda isn't that interesting or insightful
where you can undoubtedly find screeds and screeds of terribly written embarrassing smut that people are producing just for the sheer enjoyment of it, it was less 'produced with the sole intention of money-making' than a lucky accident of some clever marketing. hate the game, yo
so to credit it's own subsequent success as being a "lucky accident" is maybe slightly naive.
but then i'd have to read the book
i wonder if its a sign that writing is still a threatening endeavour with a case like this where its the nefarious thing and not the irl porn
how many of those do you think are of similar quality to this? pretty lucky accident, i'd say
lots of people enjoy producing bad writing for the sake of it, some of those people are smart enough to realise they can make a bit of cash out of it, some of those are lucky enough to become bizarro mass-culture phenomena. and the world continues to turn
no, you're wrong
but you really meant /slash fiction
It's been many years since I last ventured onto adultfanfiction.net, but I thought slash referred to gay pairings.
Even if it may be as a result of hideously written, populist tosh.
I object less about the book itself than I do about the cringeworthy ongoing commentary that's surrounding it. I'm trying to ignore everything about it in the hope that people will soon just shut up about it.
LOL. Jog on. Come back when any of your own work has been bought by this many people.
none of us have had sex
like with records
just enjoying their lives however they want to which is, unfortunately, something that lot of people here struggle to do
because their lives shine with a light that mine will never know.
maybe those housewives are slightly sexually frustrated but they've gone out and bought a book and enjoyed it. it's not a fucking crime. start living your fucking life.
go and be happy and don't worry too much about other people
genuinely curious here
what with writers block
But then everyone seems to be getting overly precious about being snobby about it all and frankly I'm now on his side.
but more than that I kind can't stand your whole "Hey, live and let live, it's just some fun," sort of attitude either. I mean, I think everyone takes a stand against something or they fall into mediocrity in all areas.
So yeah, I'm sure a bunch of people are reading the book and don't give a shit about how poorly it may or may not be written. But equally, I bet they're as 'fascist' as DaddyOrChips in other areas of life that we'd be all, "Woah man, just a bit of fun. Stop taking it all so seriously".
I just think it's good to be a bit snobby about stuff. And I think if the only response to this is to be a bit huffy and all, "Just let the people have their fun," then maybe you've got a point with your snobbiness. And none of it hurts anyone anyway.
i think there's a huge difference between genuinely disecting a book or a painting or a film or just going 'everyone's a twat'
I would've thought it obvious that there was just a smidgen of hyperbole in my opening statement, and for another what precisely IS the problem with saying that everyone's a twat?
glad this is over. i'm going to go and do something worthwhile. i suggest you do the same
nothing wrong with critiquing or laughing at rubbish things. it's when it turns into this mean-spirited attack on those idiot middle-aged housewives and/or teenage girls who are such contemptible morons because they spent a couple of hours reading a bit of porny fluff instead of anais nin. i mean go ahead and mount a scathing attack on the sociological economic psychological whatever processes that produce phenomena like this but at least try to do it with a bit more nuance than 'lol sheeple'
type of retort.
Keep on truckin', pal.
that this started out as Twilight fanfic.
good on the author. such ruthless entrepreneurship should only be applauded.