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Poor kids :(
Then at uni it was pretty much all exams so I just dicked around doing nothing fluking it at the last minute off my own natural intelligence, which was far better preparation for what the *real* world is like
Nor should it be. The idea is to teach people an incredible amount of information in a fairly short amount of time and then to determine if they understood/remembered enough of it so employers/further education establishments can be reasonably sure which people have the best skills for them.
and that's how he approaches the role of Education Secretary
if they do to well then its too easy, if they do badly they are failing our children.
having said that, coursework is something that massively favours kids whose parents are able to and have the time to help them
parents cant help them revise for exams?
because every Education Secretary seems to want to dick around with kid's education just to stamp their own mark on it.
- Lets have SATs.
- Lets scrap SATs for KS1.
- EDUCATION 2000, A/S levels and modules for All!!
- Compulsory Literacy hour
- Compulsory Numeracy hour
- Modular exams help kids learn
- SCRAP THE EVIL MODULE SYSTEM
- Phonics are good/bad/of no significance in teaching kids how to read
- Comprehensives are good!
- No!!! Academy's are clearly better!
- Private companies should be able to run schools for profit!
- League tables good! League tables bad!
- Lets introduce the English Baccalaureate at short notice to prove how bad schools are, even though most won't have many kids doing all the compsory subjects!
- Learning the why/how is better than just facts
- Learning by rote is better that being "spoonfed" the theory behind it.
I'm so angry I can't even remember how to spell any more.
Michael Gove is an utter fucking idiot and every word he spouts is bilious shit.
Trying to study for a PGCE whilst he's Education Secretary is the most depressing thing on Earth.
What really fucks me off is he's essentially won as I'm having to follow the Tory ethos and go private/freelance due to my point blank refusal to work in state education whilst that idiot is setting out the policies.
I actually lack words for how much I despise the guy.
You might be able to find the right ones.
Me too. I also work in education (though not as a teacher) and he is just the most clueless motherfucker there ever was.
Ooh Michael Michael
*various cabinet ministers jump up in the air and freeze*
There shouldn't really even be any Conservative supporters who disagree with that. Completely unsurprised he's jettisoning the National Curriculum- he'd made it clear he didn't know anything about it in even the most basic sense pretty much every time he's spoken about it in public. Must have got pretty pissed off it.
there's barely such a thing as a national curriculum these days, because academies do their own thing and teaching tends to be largely based on whatever exam board you're working to.
You know about these things. Were they talking shite?
Talk to any teacher who doesn't work privately or in an academy (ie the majority of them). Ask them how much of their time is spent jumping through regulatory hoops. That would clear it up pretty definitively.
As I suspected, based on the teachers I know personally.
I mean, if the UK started following the International Baccalaureate system for instance would that be such a bad thing?
Not that I expect Gove to do anything vaguely resembling a good idea mind
It strikes me that what pupils, educators & institutions really need is consistency - not some Govean none sense that needs untangling in 3 years time when a new Government takes over
The evidence may change and so the policy may change, but Gove (and just about every other one of his cabinet colleagues) is bullheadedly following ideology that runs totally counter to the tested policies of those who know what they're talking about.
There's never been such a bunch of henchmen as Cameron has employed in his cabinet though I get the impression with Gove that, on top of the ideology, he's on some kind of warped personal mission with the distorted self-image of some grand and historic reformer. He comes across as an actual borderline proper mental.
he seems to be dangerously insane
Is the amount of time and money that will need to be spent changing GCSE to O Level. Couldn't they just make GCSEs harder ffs
I always thought coursework was a joke. It's not a proper test.
I don't know if this is the answer (I don't *really* know the difference between o-levels and GCSEs), but to me, *something* has to be done.
not everyone's suited to exams, some very bright kids included. It's also much closer to the long, extended pieces of work you'll do if you choose to go into further education, which can only be a good thing really.
Some of us are incredibly lazy and lack fundamental organisatinal skills, but can wing an exam. Who will look out for us chancers?
It's better to combine both really, more in the name of providing a fair and balanced exam system than anything else.
kids are getting smarter
then something clearly needs to be done
not a proper test
*something* has to be done
nah, some subjects are good for coursework and some subjects are good for exams. for example, it would be absurd for maths to be assessed in a coursework style.
I would have failed o-levels.
WHY SHOULD I BE EXPECTED TO?
The right mix varies from subject to subject, but in almost cases coursework ends up being more realistic in terms of how you'd apply the skills you've learnt over the course of your education. It also gives the student the license to show their ability to select the right skills given a far more open question/brief than most exams do.
fuck the kids
Case in point: my tutor at uni taught American history. He also founded UKIP. According to my friend who took the course he used to try to skip over Democrat presidents :D
<<Education is at the heart of the Good Society. Not only should it equip kids with the power to be independent, disciplined agents of the free market>>
that's about the worst thing I've ever seen.
but of course we all know only socialists do that.
which can only be a good thing.
Having exam boards competing in a 'free market' is what has really crippled the examination system.
In order to make money the exam boards compete to sell themselves to schools. And how do schools pick between these desperately competing boards? Well.... when everything from the level of intrusive inspection to your pay is dependent on one thing only RESULTS then it's fairly obvious to see what happens:
Boards bend over backwards to offer easier and easier qualifications because that's the only way they'll ever make money.
It's a stupid system and if Gove wants to realise that free market poilicies in this context are totally doomed and should be scrapped then good on him, and that's not someting I ever thought I'd say!
even unlovable punchable Tory cnuts.
June 20 1984 was the day of the announcement of scrapping O levels and introducing GCSEs
when he's busy changing the definition of 'satisfactory' in an attempt to force schools to be come academies.
and has a measurably negative effect when introduced to several key public services? Your antiquated Marxist viewpoint which clearly springs from a golden vested union interest has no place in the glorious future Michael Gove is contracting somebody else to build.
which I guess you might expect.
THere is a fairly fundamental problem with exams at the moment which none of these changes will come near to addressing:
what do you want exams to measure?
People use exams as a measure of an individual's aptitude/attainment (although what is actually measured - effort? Being bothered? is up for debate). This is useful for employers and unis in separating the wheat from the chaff.
People also use exams as a measure of school's achievement (or even individual teachers).
Now... you can't really have both. If you want the former then some kids getting A, some B, some C etc is a good thing - it allows you to differentiate.
If you want the latter then ideally all kids should get A* because in an ideal world every kid would go to a great school and would have an amazing teacher.
I know that 'value added' to an extent attempts to combat this issue, but nothing really solves it. What are exams for? What do we want them to measure?
but making them more rigorous isn't going to solve that- in fact, it only solidifies it imo.
We 'want' them to measure attainment and the range of knowledge and understanding gained over 2/3/5 years of study. In fact, they measure effort and social class.
a paedophile and a paedophile's victim. I question what right a serial-embezzeling criminal in an unelected government has of dictating anything whatsoever to do with education. It's not like he's a specialist in the area or has devoted any research or passion to the discipline. He's just some privately educated chump who studied at Oxford then got a job at a Government Think Tank and eventually found himself in charge of the entire countries education system. He could've equally been put in charge of transport or culture or whatever.
It seems really strange to me when there's people like Sir Ken Robinson out there who actually are inspiring specialists in the field who have no say in the matter. Screw Gove
"The current system encourages pupils to take easy exams. Academics say improvement in exam results have not been matched by improvements in understanding."
Basically the old grade inflation thing again.
Also, "teaching is as good as ever and pupils are working harder than they ever have before (which you think would explain grade inflation, no?) but the qualifications need to be changed."
"employers do not have faith in D and E passes at GCSE." - but of course they all thought a CSE was worth something.
Gove is wildly popular in the party, and seen as one of the few intellectually capable members of the current government. Many (particularly on the more libertarian side) are just waiting for the chance to stick the knife in Cameron and enact a coup.
Next time the leadership comes up it'll be between Gove and Boris Johnson, mark my words.
(NB: Not passing any judgement either way myself - I've seen lots of evidence on both sides that has left me really unsure about whether Gove's programmes are heading the right or the wrong way.)
Dear fucking god
that Labour had outstanding candidates in my post
Like Louise Mensch. What a mind, eh.
and knows when to drop verbose quotations of those able to do what he actually can't: rationally analyse evidence and opinion and form policy based on sound judgements.
He is essentially the kind of person his education policy will produce - unable to come to reasoned judgements and devoid of critical ability.
is just how ineffective Stephen Twigg has been as shadow education secretary whilst all this has been going on. How he's managed to hold on to his post in the shadow cabinet is totally beyond me, because he's fucking useless.
bring back Burnham
but it's fairly clear he isn't up to the job. I bet Gove can't believe his luck. If I was Miliband I'd be looking to reshuffle Twigg well out of the way pronto, and he can take his equally hopeless mate Liam Byrne with him.
Perhaps it's because I see the absolutely absurd levels of work and pressure my wife, a teacher, has to deal with, but I particularly hate the way he seems to think that the denigration of teachers is the correct way to go about his role.
On this latest issue, I'm confused. Has he actually presenting a compelling evidence-based case that this will achieve what he wants.
I've worked in places where you have to demonstrate the case for getting a new stapler and he's about to make a change that directly affects 100s of thousands of children and teachers and indirectly affects the whole country.
I'm not completely against some right-wing approaches to education, but Gove is the intellectual and moral equivilent of Richard Littlejohn. Except he has responsibilty.
the Lib Dems, ladies and gentlemen.
to put my tuppence in, you're all doing very well keep it up.
Love the passion
who is dubstep ?@whoisdubstep
michel goev think gcse gettin easier like to see him know what a oxbow lake are
Cos it's going to be some freaky Benjamin Button shit if there are little kids going around talking about their O-levels.
What a cretinous bell-end that man is.