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Imagining her doing a Reith Lecture or something.
So who knows?
than just the spaff spitoon herself.
If Zoo found a woman who has worked hard, achieved in life on merit, intelligence and talent and then stuck her on the front cover of the magazine in her underwear with the title of hottest woman in the world, the world would be a much better place.
probably only about 3 or 4 things?
People need to get the fuck over it and get on with their lives.
I suppose Lot's wife started the trend - or maybe it was Eve
Or maybe they just stole the thunder from some troglodyte who both impressed and disgusted the global cave with her ability to double entry with mammoths
And it's definitely not going to stop any time soon.
People like to live their lives through other people. Its just all part of being nosey. I love being nosey. I'm always looking in peoples windows.
Since there was any sort of media, I should've added, for pedantry's sake.
are you saying that trashy celebritiness comes from natural human traits of needing attention x needing to sneer at people ... and that the media parasites on this?
or are you saying the media /creates/ a culture in which these people are pushed to the fore in order to feed cheap copy and turn profit and attract people to be foolish and shallow in order to receive the equivalent exposure at the expense of thoughtful consideration of the essence of human nature and our relationship to one another and the institutions that govern our lives?
we're discussing almost everything that's wrong with western society here!
KK is just a cypher
If no-one watched the Kardashians, Paris Hilton, TOWIM (ooo, get me with my trendy acronyms! L. O. L.) then they’d go away.
As regards everything that is wrong with Western society: last time I looked the main problem with Western society is an economic system on the verge of collapse fuelled by cheap lending and poorly regulated financial institutions. So, yeah, it’s all her fault I guess.
The Pistols represented everyting that's wrong with society (according to certain establishment figures). Now Rotten is a national treasure!
Bet she'll be long forgotten in 35 years though
but EVERYTHING that's wrong in western society?
also - she's a sympton not a cause yeah. no use hating on her really
but cared so little about at the same time
give me a bimbo with big tits any day of the week.
you'd have to be pretty uptight to not be a Kardashian fan, imho.
just reality TV stars? Or have they done other stuff before?
it is absolutely, 100% at odds with my experience of life
that was one of the most scathing things i'd ever read, basically comparing the rise of the Kardashians and their ilk to the era of decadence which marked the decline of the Roman Empire. it was ott, but pretty funny
whether she asks for it or not, you're a dick. You're basically saying that your childs undeveloped body is not good enough and therefore promoted a negative body image of something she can't help yet because she hasn't hit puperty. Thats up to the parents to teach their kids that she won't have breasts yet because its not possible and she should enjoy being a kid that doesn't have to wear uncomfortable padded bras yet as bras SUCK.
the wire digs in to the sides of my boobs and it HURTS and has scarred my sides a bit and I need to go sort it out but I cannot be bothered as bra shopping is worse than jean shopping
and get the bra fitter to find you a selection of bras, they will know what's good for your bra size/shape.
And don't buy cheap ones that wear out and make the underwires poke through.
Go to Marks (unless you want to go really expensive like Rigby and Peller) but make an appointment first, otherwise they make you wait hours.
in my experience john lewis has less of a waiting time wheras you really should call marks in advance and make an appointment.
but my boobs CANT have gotten bigger. If I go to an E cup, I will go ape shit. Decent, and not ridiculously priced, DD bras are hard enough to find as it is.
or your under measurement might have gotten bigger or smaller, you never know. boobs are strange.
I speak as a self-appointed expert.
My ex went to get measured once, turns out she was two cup sizes bigger than she thought. Smaller, badly fitting bras that she fell out of were much hotter though so swings and roundabouts.
Just a bit. Probably smaller on the waist but bigger cup as the side boob is getting damaged.
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I dont wanna be right *waggles finger sassily*
Seriously, she's a thousand times worse than any Kardashian.
what the hell is Mensch up to? WHY i ask, WHY???
that she might get more misogynistic abuse now, rather than less. They wont just all stay behind on twitter being rude to each other? Hey everyone! I dont like being abused! Er, im starting a whole social network that sounds a lot like my name (though its spelt different, so it cant be a pun!!). No one who doesnt like me will bother coming over, will they (reads some Mensncnnsns (or whatever a twitter equivalent is) AAAARRRGGHHH!
but it just seems odd to start a whole rival to twitter, where she got abused, in an event that is likely to open her to more abuse (wrongly in this case). If she is an attention seeker, she has created an event more likely to get more attention which will include people that dont like her, as well as just people that do like her.
Doe that make any sense?
not for the first time
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Not a surprise to see that Bozier is involved either. The guy's a chebnut.
what makes her interesting as a reality tv 'star'?
of the few minutes i've seen of kardashian kim and kourteney or whatever the series is called they seem really boring.
I am a sucker for reality TV as I just like to see the way different people act and what their houses are like and what they eat and stuff like that. Just find it interesting. And they're nice to look at and they go nice places and they have nice things and they wear nice clothes. Would I want their life? No. Not at all. But then thats whats more interesting about it? Its something I don't have and something I'll never have so its just interesting to watch that kind of stuff. Its just trash TV and you don't have to think or pay much attention. The other sisters are more interesting. Kim is pretty boring tbf. Khloe is the best one.
They do a lot of charity work I think.
In one episode, they took a homeless man in, cleaned him up, gave him a new suit, fed him, gave him money....he went on to get a job I think.
before the cameras, endorsement deals and world media were pointed directly at them...
I'd probably take a stab in the dark at the answer
but if the homesless guy now has a job and a home and feels good about the experience i find it hard to grumble
but I don't think that makes someone a good person for doing it under the circumstances. It makes them opportunistic.
provided it wasn't done in a patronising/gimmicky way.
in the guise of a television show?
I don't understand what she expects us to do with this opinion.
And try to educated them that there is more to life than looks?
There are likely worse examples, but sure, I get why she's singled out.
And the inference is also less that it's her that's the creator of the problem, more a symptom, which is completely true. Reality TV is just a soap that has the added media benefit of being able to be pushed into newspapers/shit gossip mags for maximum voyeurism. It creates more people to bitch about, speculate on and laugh at/adore.
I also think singling out a lads mag is interesting - heat magazine's shots of women at the beach with arrows pointing to the cellulite and screaming SHE GONE GOT FAT LETS ALL CROW OVER IT are equally as bad.
I mean i'm already TL:DR and I'm not going to anger DanielKelly by using the F word in here, but...yeah. She's one of many, many examples of what's wrong. No conclusion.
Moaning about people moaning about football commentary is my thing now. Does the f stand for football commentary?
as a mirror to view and cast light on the societies values and aspirations that cause this success. Obviously she herself does not represent all evils but reflects them.
Also not quite all that is wrong as there are many other things that could still be wrong with a society that would not promote Kim K to the success that she has not really done anything for.
Dr. Wright seems to ascribe more importance to the title of "world's hottest woman" than the magazine does. To me, that strapline doesn't suggest she's the most successful woman or the most inspiring but simply the most aesthetically pleasing.
as far as body image is concerned.
Who is she any way? My curiosity is starting to get the better of me..
where butters wanted to bounce on her.
though i constantly hear about her. even reading articles about her on the daily mail website do not offer much clarity on this matter.
and am still non the clearer. Maybe im just stupid and not indie :(
who was involved in the most public case in recent memory, the OJ Murder Trials. That's about it.
She appears a lot in gossip columns and I'd assume she crops up a bit in lads mags and celebrity magazines but if you didn't read those, I'm sure she could easily pass you by.
I only know who she is 'cos someone on my Facebook threads obsessed with her and I've seen an ad for her TV series (on a fairly obscure channel isn't it? But I can easily see how she'd completely pass someone by.
Basically what I was saying is that no-one on here apart from you gives a toss about her.
one of the examples that she used was KK, and that the telegraph then scurulously used this instance to create a story which meant that they could then use the image of KK in their paper?
(the telegraph is famous for liking to have pictures of 'nice looking women' in it (albeit slightly more atired and refined than the rags
these promote the ultimate empty expression of visual representation (with accompanying audio) overcoming content
before Loui Tacchi starts saying I'm a troll
Kim Kardashian has nothing to do with it, and it's all part of the right's focus on individualism that they would single out a single person and be like LOOK! LOOK AT HER! THE TWAT, IT'S PEOPLE LIKE HER THAT RUIN OUR NATION! REVILE HER, GO ON.
So you immediately shift the focus from the social context in which someone like Kim Kardashian can become the person she's become and the symbol of whatever it is she's become, to Kim Kardashian herself and her perceived flaws or whatever, which you then take and impose on `wider society`, meaning you look at all those poor people/girls that might potentially aspire to be someone like Kim Kardashian and BLAME them for being a malaise on society. Obviously if you actually confronted people like that headmistress twat she would say these girls wouldn't be at fault, but the underlying assumption is definitely there, in line with individualism where everyone has the free will to rationally choose who they want to be.
The far more accurate article would be to talk about post-industrial socio-economics, and how it's created a culture that impresses on people the `need` to cultivate a self-image that's entirely consumerist in scope. In many ways, Kim Kardashian is an embodiment this sort of hyper-consumerist nihilist shite, but really she actually has very little to do with that fact, and it's far better understood in broader, societal contexts.
Fuck knows why i'm posting this, no one's even gonna read it, much less care.
i just saw that woman's face and couldn't take any more, so closed the window before i got violent.
i thought it was interesting and well argued
got any more?
Or is she more known through excellent PR. It took me ages to find out what she was known for, not that I was that concerned as to why she was plastered all over celeb rags.
Just checked out her sex tape, which is the first footage I've seen of her. Was not aroused (in before ^MUST BE GAY!!11!!!)