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just backed his chin and leaped into his punches. great fghter.
a truly amazing performance.
that sort of stuff transcends the sport, imho.
But Britain's greatest fighter ever - no
let's hear it...
One of those guys fought everyone.
One was very cleverly managed and ducked fighters til they were past their best.
a match-made career.
wouldn't even be in my top 5, tbh.
you're embarrassing yourself here, lad.
(mcguigan's backtracking on bute's class was especially embarrassing) but he just made the number one ranked boxer in the world look like a chump. so happy for froch.
But has got to let others speak and just pipe down sometimes as a pundit...
Nice to see a bit of dignity afterwards these days.
He's already secured his legacy.
I'm not sure there would be a great deal of point in him fighting Ward again, but there's no shame in that, Ward will go on to be an all-time great of the weight.
Kessler in the UK, then hang them up, probably. Not sure there'd be a great deal of point in him fighting Groves, De Gale, or even Cleverly at a catchweight (of which their is talk). He'd beat any of those, but it wouldn't really prove anything.
Awesome performance, awesome dude, awesome boxer, deserves much more love from the British public than he gets. I thought it might go the distance but Christ it was pretty immediately apparent that Bute had never been in a ring with someone of Froch's quality before. As far his legacy goes I think that fight is enough to secure it but he arguably needs, and undoubtedly wants to beat Kessler to put the icing on the cake. Cant see Bute taking the rematch after that beating.
Much as I respect Froch your assertion upthread that he'd beat Calzaghe is madness bro', would probably have been a good fight though.
He ducked fights, he was protected, he fought fighters on the downturn - Eubank post-Collins and a year before retirement, Hopkins aged 43, a shot Roy Jones.
Yes, he beat Kessler, but his record is undoubtedly padded otherwise. The Lacy performance aside, it was low on excitement, too. Froch has fought anyone, wherever, and has provided more entertainment in two years than Calzaghe did throughout his career.
Both in their prime, Froch would win. I don't see how Calzaghe could've really hurt him. Froch arguably has the best chin in modern boxing, and is very underrated technically. Plus, he has the heart many would argue Joe lacked.
I'll give you that. I just think that Calzaghe's technical ability would have made the difference, I agree he would have seriouslt struggled to knock Froch out but he'd out-work him and out-box him over 12 rounds and take an inevitable victory on points I fear. The level Joe reached against Lacy would have been too good for Froch to cope with I'm afraid, as the Andre Ward fight proved you can have all the guts and punching power in the world but it's very difficult to win a round, let alone a fight against someone too skilful to let you get near them. Basically I think Froch would have had to knock Calazghe out to win the fight and I couldn't see that happening.
But i think Ward is better than Lacy in his pomp, and that Ward would've beat Calzaghe, too.
Credit to Froch for fighting the best in their back yards. Calzaghe never fought a top American fighter, during their prime, in America. It's have been interesting to see how he'd have fared had he done that, and given he didn't, i don't think we can put a mark against Froch's name for doing so.
Obviously, the term "world class" is subjective and the cause of much debate in itself, but we know 100% Froch falls into that catagory because he's fought the best, wherever they wanted to fight. Calzaghe didn't, and so there will always be an asterisk next to that 0 on his record for me.
I respect Froch more for taking the fights and losing a couple than i did Calzaghe for being ultra-protective over his undefeated record. He was our Sven Ottke.
and maximum respect to Carl for stepping up time after time after time like he has but if the chips were down, both in their prime, my hard-earned would be on Calzaghe.
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