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It’s above the national average wage, but architects don’t earn as much as everyone thinks they do, and not nearly as much as other professions who have to undertake the same level of training and cover the same level of professional risk.
but it can be a little frustrating to spend seven years getting two degrees only to find yourself scheduling out toilets and earning just enough to rent a room in a shared house.
on ``above the national average wage``? Maths is wrong.
And how is Director of IT in a large company and he took a pay cut to do that. He's minted and only just 30.
Moral of the story: Experience kicks the arse of qualifications.
SCHOOL OF LIFE INNIT JOHN
I know for some roles at Tesco it's mandatory to have a 2:1 and a certain number of UCAS points. Not that I could find any reason why someone would want to work for them.
working in a role with the probation service open to anyone with 5 GCSEs who are on £29K. Perfectly possible to earn more like £37K if you're willing to do a bit of overtime.
It's pretty dull, but fairly easy most of the time. There's no career progression in that role though and you'd have to take a major paycut in order to move to a more prestigious/upwardly mobile position.
Predictably enough, most people can't be bothered working hard for 10+ years in order to earn the same money that they're on now.
and are using that to supplement pensions.
It's also possible to manipulate the shift patterns and take 4-6 weeks off a couple of times per year, so good for people who like travel.
I'm intrigued. Fed up in my current job - which did involve getting formal qualifications - that's all.
general admin, monitoring points of entry/exit, reporting on conduct/behaviour, pastoral stuff regarding welfare.
It's an overpaid job because the shifts are 12 hours and you have to be willing to work waking nights, there's also the slight risk of getting attacked though In four years I've only been hit once. I have encountered a corpse though, dealt with the aftermath of someone swallowing a razorblade, a few assaults etc
You're paid for what 'could' happen rather than what is likely to happen. Check your local probation area website if it sounds like your kind of thing. For obvious reasons, jobs don't come up too often and when they do you get people from other parts of the organisation trying to transfer in, but it is possible.
I also know people who do similar work who earn about 50k a year. None of these people have A-levels
I think you used to be able to bring in about £50k being a London cabbie (if you worked the right hours) in the 80s/90s...
...not such an easy thing.
Plumbing certainly is good money - my fall back plan is to move to Guernsey (my missus's homeland) and become a plumber. Decent (and non-decent tbh) plumbers are minted out there.
Not too different to a student loan really...
But Tony Blair didn't like dirty tradespeople so he made us all go to university instead. YEAH! MEDIA STUDIES!
Wish I'd become a sparky or something instead...there's still time I suppose.
Done an academic research placement for half a year after graduating, and it's probably not something I'd want to pursue. And I'll be out of work by the middle of june.
I know basic plumbing/electric, so might just take a course, get some work for a bit, buy my own van and start coining it in.
back when i was a perm guy, I use to sit next to a guy who got 28 doing front end web stuff, no degree, no alevels, he worked in starbucks till a few years prior but did web at home for fun and built up a portfolio that ment he blew any grad out of the water.
he will hit a barrier because of it.
where I'm contracting right now 2 head tech guys dont have degrees and are almost anti degree but i havent mentioned all the contracts i apply for now have it as a prerequisit, so this is the top for them for example.
I have only about 5 GCSEs and no A Levels but my job is good and I earn alright for my age.
I have a decent, very well paid job and have had for a long time. Can someone get me a coffee please? Cheers.
...(until Thursday next week that is - FREEDOM) there are large swathes of brokers, many of whom do not have a single GCSE to their name, who earn around £200k a year. They are some of the most disagreeable people I have had the displeasure of doing business with.
What do you do again sfq? I'm sure you've mentioned it before but it seems to have slipped my mind...
I suspect not the sort of broker you're referring to anyway (hope) We're mainly an amiable bunch here although of course there's a few twats about as there is in any work place.
In fact, some of my best friends...ok, not my 'best' friends, or really 'friends' at all in fact, but definitely people I know of...are insurance brokers (I worked at London Underwriting Centre for a spell).
I'm currently working at a money broker, and the amount of £££ you can make here purely by matching numbers on a screen and then doing a deal over the phone is incredible - one of the lads here bought an eight grand bottle of scotch on a work night out last week, essentially just to show off.
I haven't directly seen that level of cock waving, but the disregard for price show by the guys who I work with is pretty extraordinary. Veal for lunch, no problem.
You are at...Barclays?
My favourite story from this place - one of the HR girls had quite a flirtatious relationship with a particular desk. Over time she mentioned that she had always wanted a boob job but couldn't afford one - the desk clubbed together and paid for her boob job. I don't know what she provided in return...
[she has absolutely cracking chebs now tbh tbf]
a story to reflect the exact reason to never become one of these people :) the money talk was making it tempting.
BGC but in the Barclays building.
No great stories from here, though when I was a junior junior I got paid £50 to peel an orange, I suppose that should be demeaning in some respect, but £50 works for me.
...when I wouldn't peel an orange for fifty quid.
In fairness, there are lots of things I would do for fifty quid.
How would you like to earn £50 real easy boy?
Call it a ton and you're done
was earning silly money before the property market crashed. As in daft six-figure sums. Left school at sixteen.
Obviously since then he's had to take a pay cut but he's still on four times my wage, plus commissions.
As is any sort of academic intelligence. I used to think I was slightly clever when I was in education. In the real world I'm thick as pigshit and shit at every job I've ever done as a result.