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Kieron Dyer has signed a new one year contract. WHEN WILL THESE CLUBS LEARN
and there's only so many people they can bring in over one transfer window to replace them. It's only absolutely fucking mental (rather than a bit mental) if it's not dead cheap or on a pay-as-you-play basis.
But he's on a pay as you play deal so it's just mental as you say.
Still, those 13 players were all the Paladini signings when we first got taken over. Binning them will save us an estimated £10m a year. So depressing, but nice to draw a line under that one
Someone's going to get themselves a bargain there.
By starting Agyemang against Wigan
I should probably have some kind of feed set up where I can just auto spam people with LoftForWords content. I may be biased because it's about my club, but it's the best written football content around imo
I've never found a good Forest one, they mainly seem to be just match reports + regurgitated news stories. I quite like Arseblog.
When I saw he'd signed I assumed there was some sort of option for an extension which he'd chosen to activate.
Surely they wouldn't just offer him a new deal when that money could be spent putting flowers back in the executive boxes
Man City were best value for money for fans, and Wolves were the worst. WHO KNEW?
then we were very entertained all season. However, my season ticket cost about £20 per Wolves goal, and £125 per Wolves win.
Best value: Most successful team out of London
Worst value: Least successful team in London
because the World Club Cup is in Japan and they can make billions of pounds out of merchandise. Apparently.
I know Drogba has to go really and that nothing lasts forever, but still :(((
Guy's obviously got the same agent as Hazard.
would you have been upset if he'd left last summer?
(his 9th final goal in 9 final appearances) and scored the penalty that won Chelsea their first ever European Cup?
but yes i do mean those last few months
...'one should not dwell too much on John Terry's various wardrobe changes, culminating in his appearance in full kit, complete with shinpads, for the trophy presentation. Terry had started the evening in a suit and watched the game in training kit. By the time Chelsea's players boarded their flight home one half?expected him to appear in the cockpit dressed as the pilot'.
"2012/13 season ticket holders can now take advantage of the fantastic
opportunity to upgrade their season ticket to our brand new relaxed and
modern facility in the re-developed Stan Cullis Stand, WV1.
WV1 will hold two matchday facilities, WV1 Bar which will offer guests
prime location padded seats in the Stan Cullis Stand, matchday
programme, reserved car parking and a free pint in this fantastic brand
new, contemporary facility.
For all of these additional benefits and a fantastic matchday experience,
as a season ticket holder you'll pay only £824 more to upgrade for the
season (less if you purchased your season ticket offline or via direct debit).
WV1 season ticket holders also have the first two cup games to be played
at Molineux included which means you will only be paying up to an
additional £32.96 per match."
That's right! ONLY £824 to upgrade! ONLY more than twice the cost of the season ticket for a pint and a comfy seat! Great value!
Had to re-read it a couple of times to make sure I was reading it correctly. Then I quickly deleted it. Can't imagine there will be too many North Bankers taking them up on that deal...
Is that it talks about these "two matchday facilities", then only mentions one of them.
Typical prawn sandwich brigade...
let me make this clear now Carlton Cole will not be going anywhere.
won't start til after the Euros.
The first time a hack picks up his pen to make up a story about Carlton Cole heading to some midtable club is the horn parp at the start of a fox hunt letting you know the transfer season has begun.
Ne'er cast a clout til a Carlton Cole story is out as Daniel Levy says
Alex Ferguson doesn't even bother starting his transfer business until the first Carlton Cole story of the year
They've been frozen at last year's prices including the £50 discount that Fernandes brought in when he took over.
Being greedy I was hoping for more of a reduction as they're still crazy expensive. Being realistic, after last year's shit fest, it's pretty decent of them.
Gonna get a 0% credit card to pay for it this time however, after gifting almost £200 in interest on the ten month payment deal last time
The interest on mine is about £40 and even that pisses me off
The old owners only gave an option where we were paying credit card APR on it, I presume skimming off the top.
The new one is a lot cheaper, but I'd still rather just pay nothing
Norwich come 5th:
For charging just short of £2 for a cup of tea.
ending a 22-year association with local company Reebok.
should have said kit-based association, that...
be nice to have a decent looking kit for a change, hopefully. Last few have been abominations.
Terrified of what Nike have in store for City for 13/14.
How has he done this season? I remember some really positive reports at the beginning of the season, but a glance at his stats say that he had hardly scored/assisted since then. No mention of him anywhere in the build up to the England squad announcement - should there have been?
but you could say the same of Downing.
last I heard was that he had run off to a farmhouse in the coutryside to make his own pate
as others have said above he seemed to fade a bit after xmas, but as its his first season as a first-choice player in a while thats not too much of a surprise.
Can't blame him for any of these comments really. Like the other genuinely PL quality players to've left its clear that their ideal situation would be playing for Leeds in the premier league, as opposed to little clubs like Norwich or Reading, but it's just never going to happen under Bates. I absolutely hate him. I hope the old Chelsea twat dies, I really do.
Calm down, dear.
He'll be kissing a Villa badge by the year's end.
it must be terrible these 'little' clubs surpassing your bunch of thugs.
is genuinely one of the most violent team performances I've seen.
How Leeds had any players left on the field at full time I do not know
Generally unrepresentative of Leeds lately / last season. We're hardly the best in the disciplinary stakes, last time I checked, but we don't have any thuggish individuals, Brown aside, and generally since relegation from the premiership have never really had dirty players. Brown doesnt even feature for us that much. We also received the most cards against us,I think, last season. So a bit chicken and egg.
Brown was the only particularly bad player in that game, but it was all the way back in April, but a month isn't that long for some good old fashioned football revisionism.
Don Goodman did the most biased and bitter commentary of all time during that match. Started crying about absolutely nothing incidents which might've effected your opinion.
that only one leg was broken that day. Fortunately, warnock was typically dignified in defeat.
Sean bean seems to be a pretty emotional guy.
He knew how to run a football club
would be decent enough to come off the bench now and again
but he is genuinely a horrible, manipulative man - any issues of football/leeds aside, there are things that I won't go into on the libelly-issue side of things that are just horrific.
He's clearly holding Leeds back, and there are problems with the club and how it is run, how much tickets are and how that money is invested, but on the other hand we're relatively stable, he got the best manager you could hope to have on board for the football league, etc etc... So in that sense he's clearly better than Ridsdale, if just a little/lot luckier, but Ridsdale is 100 times the man Bates is, for reasons relatively unrelated to football
i've no idea how the clubs run at the momen, but its obviously underperforming.
I think given the choice, in the top flight, of playing for Leeds, Reading or Norwich, very few players would opt to go the latter two, least of all players who have experience at Leeds, have guided them to promotion before, and have a clear attachment to the club and fans.
And the reason we're not amongst those two clubs is down to a lack of basic investment.
Clubs from outside of major metropolitan areas (ie London, Greater Manchester and Birmingham) usually bob up and down between the top two divisions, and occasionally have brief flourishes of success between longer periods of humdrum mediocrity.
If Leeds are underperforming so are Bristol City, Forest, Cardiff, Ipswich, Hull, Derby, Leicester, Portsmouth etc etc. Not room in the Prem for all of them, is there?
i dont think you could make much of a case for birmingham and london clubs in a general sense being more traditionally successful than for example leeds
but just look at the Prem table or 'trophies won' stats. Those are the areas that are most represented, with a few oddities thrown in.
(I'm counting Liverpool as part of the general metropolitan splodge that is the North West)
that have recurrent success, whereas more isolated cities are more likely to produce clubs that have very very sporadic success.
it looks like leeds on their own have won the league the same number of times as all the midlands clubs combined in the last century given that most of villas success seems to predate that
and i mean if you take that kind of liberal approach to what clubs represent regionally then theres newcastle sunderland the sheffield clubs and whatnot that you could consider a north east bloc who probably stand for about the same as the others
but i mean liverpool isnt really the greater manchester area or whatever is it
and it looks like maybe theyve won it 4 times in total to leeds 3
but idk i think the underperforming thing is to do with some perceived stature of the club altho typing that makes feel pretty "black&white blood" so it probably doesnt matter
and because they dropped all the way to the third tier. Your list illustrates it pretty well though: huge number of wins for a small number of clubs, then bits and bobs for others. In a vague hierarchy of English clubs, there are a few big clubs from major population/industrial centres with the lion's share of all trophies won, and who have had multiple, sustained periods of success; and then there are the more piddling clubs, all of whom have had one or two periods of moderate success. Then below that are clubs who've pretty much never won anything and have certainly never had any period of sustained success. All I'm saying is that Leeds are from the second grouping. They'll have a little run of success again one day, and then after that they'll go shit again. No use pissing and moaning about it.
Or just generally mental. It's not about there being room for clubs from metropolitan areas, I suppose you could make an argument regarding entitlement in two ways, neither of which you're approaching them from.
The first would be the whole entitlement thing, of underperforming considering historically the success levels of where they have traditionally been, attendances, etc. Of those clubs I think you can only say Leeds and Forest belong there. See this long, reasonable, post I made that got ignored regarding this - http://drownedinsound.com/community/boards/social/4338225#r6725172
The second would be in terms of personnel, finances, etc. Again, of those clubs you mentioned I'd say only Leeds and Cardiff apply. I can speak more knowledgeably about Leeds, but we've got the highest average attendance of any championship team - I think, we definitely did in 10/11 anyway - had, and currently do have capable managers that are/were capable of steering a good side towards 5th, and (did have) a spine of 5/6 players that could definitely be playing, at least, in the lower half of the premier league. In terms of the money brought in from the sales of Delph etc, we only needed to make 2 or 3 reasonable signings, as opposed to ageing loan players, to be in the play-offs, and to hold on to our better players - who would have stayed if we ever looked like improving.
From either perspective, and the latter is the one I subscribe to more, we are underperforming, when finishing 14th in the championship.
(a long and reasonable post that won't get any replies cos its not Beckford.jpg)
from here: http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/01012012/63/jo-walk-kuffour.html
(eurosport probably didn't even do it first tbf)
Obviously, being a) a fans group and b) a Liverpool fans group, everything's covered in a thick layer of hyperbole, but all their really doing is asking the owners to tell them what's going on, it's not like they're demanding that a new manager be unveiled by Friday.
As an Arsenal fan I can certainly sympathise with them feeling like they're disconnected from the people running club, seems to be a pretty common complaint across most clubs with foreign owners
They fired Dalglish due to poor results and are now contacting a number of managers with a view to interviewing them. Logically speaking that interview process will take a few weeks and at some point they'll announce a new manager. Obviously the club can't start announcing specific targets in the media without creating a diplomatic problem with other people they want to talk to. Bristol City are pretty much the same in terms of not commenting on new managers, transfer targets etc. until there's formal news and I've never seen it as being an issue - just common sense.
What's more the club have actively come out and said they want a long-term appointment and a manager who can take them forward for the next three or four years. So the strategy is outlined so I don't get why Liverpool fans are asking for it.
Since coming in, the owners have spent shitloads and have now proved they're not going to accept mediocrity/hide being sentimentality by firing a manager for under-achieving They were a bit slow on the Suarez affair but ultimately took decisively action there too.
As clubs go, Liverpool don't strike me as being particularly badly run. The fans mostly seem upset because they liked Dalglish and because the owners are American but I can't see any logical reason to think they've got no direction or any way that it's in any worse run than any other club.
Certainly wouldn't expect them to start naming names, but being as it's obviously something that's going to generate a lot of interest among the fans and press, don't think it's too much for the fans to want a bit of communication from the owner himself rather than someone like Ian Ayre, even if it's just a statement/open letter on the website.
Obviously it won't stop people speculating endlessly, but it at least demonstrates to the fans that the owner's serious, just basic good PR really.
I think a lot of my reaction is due to my suspicion that the letter is basically a code for 'we want Rafa and, if you don't agree, you clearly don't love the club as much as we do'?
At Arsenal the name John Terry is another word for an ugly girl. If there’s a girl around that we don’t really like, we use it as a smokescreen/codename: *Have you seen John Terry recently?*
He’s terrible. I recommend this, it really works!
Then we can photoshop some prison bars over it
The other is the biggest prize in club football.
Not even in the same league, pal. (Neither are Leeds, lol)
>beckford.jpg :''''''''DDDDD etc.
accompanied by a slowed-down echoing laugh
so sad to see him go, very best of luck to him
and the lord, he taketh.
Not sure I could take it.
should be OK on that front
that will do
or at least Europe rather than buggering off to China/Qatar.
that's where Anelka went too. aww
Was such a weird appointment.
Which one of you is Simon Bird... You're a cunt. :D
he was doin alright though until his health problems
but I still think he did quite well considering.
'You're a cunt'
'Thank you' :-DDD
Me, olegrich and homesick_alien in absolute hysterics
After failing various times and wanting to smash things at the official site, I have dedicated this evening to finding some tickets, after pretty much giving up.
Looking at ebay - worth buying from sellers with 100% feedback?
'livefootballtickets.com' - anyone ever used this? seems fairly legit
general advice, places to avoid/get tickets from, etc please!
we used the uefa portal system about 10 days ago. After having problems with my both the extremely slow server and then the credit card i was using, we used a different credit card and it eventually worked.
What official site were you using?
Someone want to check on Micah Richards?
In all seriousness, Richards must be in a difficult place re: his injury. If he comes out and makes it clear he's not fit he'd sort of be disrespecting his international teammates, wouldn't he?
He's just got to knuckle down, and when Roy gets sacked next year the new manager will find it very hard to ignore him. Not only is he comfortably the best English right-back, he's a better centre-half than at least one of those in the squad, and a better right winger than Downing, Walcott AND Milner.
Don't really understand what you're talking about. I thought you'd admitted the whole thing up anyway. Surely this is just a matter of not wanting to disrespect Micah Richards by calling him up as cover for one friendly, similar to the way Michael Carrick was left off the standby list; Hodgson has already said it was between Phil Jones and Richards for the full squad. Fuss over nothing.
I said "maybe i've imagined his injury up" simply because it's hardly been mentioned.
Micah Richards is one of City's best players, and has been one of their best players this season. The only reason he'd ever be out of the team for a prolonged period of time would be an injury.
It was well known amongst our supporters that Zabaleta was getting games because Micah wasn't fit. Either he isn't fit, or Roy honestly think he isn't one of the three, possibly four best English players in his position. Which is the most far fetched, do you think?
Surely Micah Richards has to be better than the former host of Stars In Their Eyes
Surely the only reason to take a player for one friendly is 'cos they're a future prospect and you want them to get a bit of experience? It'd make no sense to take Richards for that 'cos he's played international football before.
I can do start and end updates for more meaningless friendlies and testimonials in future if there's sufficient demand.