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Its not for me.
although hairy legs would be a turn off
truly, truly disgusting.
But she won't be getting to do me, you know?
rapes an url to death.
have you been Theo all along?
You pronounce it YOU-ARE-ELL.
Unless you're a dribbling psychopath, in which case they pronounce it 'Earl'.
Hence it never has an 'an' in front unless you're a dribbling psychopath.
who was it then?
my sincere apologies, Theo.
Can we ban any Daily Mail threads? For a week at least, see how we get on.
Or read them and then post in them.
then I saw the picture and I did care. not nice.
It's only a bit of hair.
She apparently writes for some blog called 'Vagenda'. Fucking hell.
"and had ALL the boyfriends." http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/x-all-the-y
I like my boyfriend better when he's tanned...but if he ever went on a sunbed...
Too far into Friday for anything vaguely cerebral to compute.
because naturally men and women do have hair there, ffs james_ I thought you were bright
"Basically, is it objectively nicer to have no hair there or are we just conditioned to expect there to be no hair there?"
I answered that "you are conditioned to expect there to be no hair"
I then went on to explain which the 'because' gives a hint of.
"naturally men and women do have hair there"
I will explain further -
because you are a human animal you are attracted to other human animals (probably). Therefore you will be attracted (on the whole) to what other human sexually mature humans look like. Other human sexually mature humans animals have hair under their armpits.
The fact that you are finding the presence of hair under womens armpits 'less nice' indicates (quite obviously) that you have been conditioned by most women having removed the hair due to this societies pressure to do so.
Does that make more sense?
So I guess your point stands.
Women didn't evolve to be relatively hair-free for men to mate with their smooth bodies for nothing.
it was one of the great clusterfucks of our time
but growing my pits to that length would make me really sweaty.
SHE'S LIKE THOSE ANTI-CAPITALIST HIPPIES WITH THEIR IPHONES AND STARBUCKS AND SHOES
she looks fine
you can tell.
but then again ideals of female beauty is dictated at least as much by other women as it is by men. Women (in my experience) expect to be judged much more by other women than they do by men.
would I be part of the problem or part of the solution? Best just leave men out of this debate full stop. We can't be trusted.
or does she have more hair under her arms than most men? my armpits are nowhere near as bushy as hers.
but humans who carry it beyond this, and don't get over it, are shallow and mean spirited, like THIS society is, and you need to change your ideas.
Why do you keep jumping on every comment I make? Stop being such a dick head.
"Good to know"
You're such a cunt. Fuck off you piece of shit.
Probs best if you left this thread now.
<3 you mits
guys you know when you shave your ass or pubic area and you rush the job and there's a bit of chaffing and redness for a few days? shaving your armpits is like that but 10x worse, you will be constantly aware of how clammy they feel and don't even think about putting deodrant on. i did. it hurt.
Gonna stop you RIGHT THERE
i like being smooth
not all the time, just now and again. it's like a breath of fresh air.
who rushes that job? Make a weekend of it, get the boys round, get the chilli on and just have some fun. It doesn't have to be a chore you know.
the world's fine.
no need to show it off though. there's a reason i keep my gross hairy pits under wraps, yunno?
and why do misogynists keep starting them!!!!!!!!!!!
are you being sarcastic!!!!!!!!!!!
why are we shouting!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's close to midnight and something evil's lurking in the dark
Under the moonlight, you see a sight that almost stops your heart
You try to scream but terror takes the sound before you make it
You start to freeze as horror looks you right between the eyes
men have to do plenty of unnatural things to make themselves more attractive. Like washing their balls. And pretending to be interested
it's rotten, no two ways about it
is if she has a pretty face and nice body.
I like to think of myself as a feminist.
GOOD ONE PATRIARCHY YOU BIG SILLY SYSTEM OF OPPRESSION HAHAAHAHAH
Is she just lazy or what? I mean, is she just trying to prove a point? Because if so, that's ridiculous. Is it worth "proving a point" when people are horrified by you. So society dictates what is sexually appealing. Go ahead and not shave your armpits, well and truly sticking it to the man!
that is awful and obviously more extreme, BUT it is because of the enforcement to compliance of a social norm.
WHilst I am not suggesting this is the same.
This is exactly the same slope that the genital mutilatiuon is on.
they are just at very different points on the same slope.
Social convention, fememinie beauty, patriarcal society = people freaking out about stuff they really shouldn't.
Just thikn if the usual reactive from people wasn't OMG hair! ugh! then i bet you'd see much more of a balance between women who shaved under arms/legs and those who didn't. In just the same way as any other style/fashion/choice. It's really very childish that it gets this reaction especially from a ''liberal'' corner of the internet like this.
I've had gfs who shave everything and ones who shave nothing and you know what I like it just fine. Like she says in her article the boys she went out with didn't mind at all.
It seems with the younger generation even the idea of having a bush is now considered odd and in the same way as having hairy legs which is really quite worrying, but at the same time there seems to be a resurgance of rebeling against it.
Maybe some DiSer could try it and see what reaction they find? Surely all the feminists on here have an opinion on this?
That wasn't really a summary was it?
(also haven't had a hair cut in 2 years and don't pluck my facial hair)
What do I win?
apart from the getting people to have sex with me bit but that's because i have a terrible personality and face. people don't seem horrified when i go swimming though. and i don't care because lol the world.
get to fuck pal
I somehow feel you deserve more ;D
I'd start shaving my legs though
Like Prison_Keith does
prob because he has been brainwashed by the Feminist Gynocracy. but now if i do stop i'll still be submitting to the whims of arbitrary male aesthetic preference. PATRIARCHY DILEMMA.
i expect it stops itching when properly grown out
it's fine. Don't stop for your bf.
also i don't mind having any excuse to spend extra time in the shower. usually i don't shave my legs but sometimes i do just because i fancy having an extra long shower and shaving can be quite satisfying
From your posting style I'd just presumed you were.
i'd never go out with a woman who was a bit hairier than she needed to be.
not all that fussed about how or not a woman chooses to prune her ladygarden, that's her perogative, and i don't really care all that much either way, even legs to a certain extent (they're mainly gonna stay wrapped up), but if i was seeing a woman and she started running around with a bit of a pencil tache, or hairy pits, i'd have to end it, or at least only see her behind closed doors (if she was otherwise really fit).
i don't see it as a man/woman thing either, if i was seeing someone and i suddenly started shaving just half of my head and eyebrows, i'd expect to be dumped. it's nothing to do with gender roles, it's just common sense - we're attracted to people in part (generally mainly) based on how they look. if they suddenly change their appearance significantly (and we are only talking significanly; a beard on a woman IS a biggy) then their partners are well within the rights to trade them in.
good point mate, never thought of it like that
if i started sellotaping my sideburns to my cheeks i'd expect most women to quickly upgrade me for someone who didn't look like a complete mental.
Just because she hasn't shaved her legs?
it's pretty normal for women to grow their hair, or to not have to properly shave their faces. it's only be an issue for most man if they had noticable moustaches, etc, i think.
as for the pits - what if you go to a do or something, and you wear a dress, would you not be a bit weary of people noticing your underarm bushmeds?
there's a hygeine element to it needlessly having underarm hair, no? i shaved mine once, during my late teens. was noticeably less smelly. begs the question, why doesn't everyone shave their pits? for men, it's mainly because we can't be arsed, i'd guess.
and the hair is <tmi> blonde </tmi>.
I'd think people would think I was cool.
I often wear the same clothes two days in a row and get frequent compliments from friends about how nice I smell.
and that she should do what she likes with it, I can't help but find that really unattractive. Guess I've been brainwashed by advertising and the media etc.
I found it odd the other way, cos i just went out with hippy chicks.
and yes, you have been conditioned to feel this
It's just that a lack of body hair is one of things that is associated with being a woman (or a french man). For some reason it is one of those things that separates the sexes, and the idea of a woman with furry legs and armpit hair runs counter to that. Don't know who's responsible for it becoming that way, but that's how it is.
Also, asked my girlfriend about this and she said that shaving her armpits and legs makes her feel like more of a woman.
Can you feel it?
Come, come, come on baby!
I feel like a woman!
LOWERED EXPECTATIONS YEAH
AND I'M THERE BABY
I wouldn't care if a women had a more natural amount of body hair. if I was with her to begin with, I wouldn't be put off by something so inconsequential.
and besides, that kind of natural, non-conformist thing is kind of attractive.
Environmental awareness: sexy.
anywhere. I bought a salon lazer last week and im in the process of balding my whole body.
i wasnt sure how it was going to work, but some hairs look as if they catch fire and sizzle.
Pew Pew Pew!!
and almost unquestionable as a practice. Strange how the feminists on here seem to go along with it as well.
Just thought it might interest many people on here.
(1. I directed it at men as most men on here have FREAKED OUT at the body hair thing. 2. Each to their own. 3. I don't really like the way she's flashing it around as if she's proud of it. Well done. You can grow body hair. 4. I haven't shaved my legs in ages as its winter and they hide behind pjs and tights all the time so not bothered about the leg hair. Its just the pit hair. Theres just SO MUCH of it. I don't think I could handle that clamminess under there. Not for me thanks. )
then i realised my young and reckless days are truly behind me.
i've been tempted to stop as i quite like armpit hair for some reason; but ultimately i'm a sweaty bitch (NAE SHAME) and i feel like it would probably make matters worse. Also, any time I've not shaved my pits (both for short and long periods of time - think i got to two months at one point) i've found it really irritating. I would draw the line at my legs though - it just looks rubbish with a skirt doesn't it?
anyway, i have to say it's pretty cool to see a woman with her armpit hair completely grown out (as in, it's cool to look at, beyond just being cool symbolically/as a statement)
it's making me wonder how much armpit hair I potentially have.
I'm pretty sure I could grow an amazingly impressive bush, but genuinely don't think I could ever grow as much armpit hair as her.
^cool story, bro.
just to clarify (in case there was any doubt), the above post wasn't designed to titillate.
oh, the internet.
go and eat something - the clues are there
I'd be feeling seriously low about DiS right now
this one is surprisingly mild, tbh
in the vast, intransigent forests of body hair coating the oleaginous regions of DiS