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I am actually looking forward to it.
which all seem to be hesitantly praising it. Thought it was quite amusing how Ricky Gervais was going to be playing a character pulling the same facial expressions that got him in trouble on Twitter and assumed it was going to be typical Gervais trite taboo rubbish...
If the long running joke is "he has learning difficulties" it'll be shit. Not just for the lack of compassion but that it makes for really shit comedy.
But you never know, it might be alright.
So let's not have some boring debate about that yeh?
I am really not sure what he is trying here. Terrible acting.
also patronising as owt.
where the old man was being made redundant and it was screaming
IT'S SAD THE OLD MAN DOESN'T WANT TO GIVE UP WORK
THEY'VE GIVEN HIM A SHIT PRESENT THAT IS SHIT
HE LOOKS SAD
HE ACTUALLY SAYS 'I DON'T WANT TO STOP WORKING'
LOOK IT'S SAD
BEING OLD IS SAD
except extended to 30 minutes and with more emotional piano
He nailed the drama thing in those Christmas specials.
Wouldn't watch again, or be particularly enthusiastic about any future episodes though.
i liked it
Assumed it was gonna be bad as soon as the trailers revealed how unconvincing his acting is in it but the writing isn't even good either. Nothing seems to have any build-up anymore.
The Office was something which took years to write. They rewrote and even re-shot it multiple times, toiled over it, everything was drawn from real life experiences and interactions.
Now hes lauded as a genius and The Office as one of the greatest sitcoms ever. Do you think Gervais is working 10 hour days anymore or locking himself in a room to finish something? of course not, hes a genius. He'll write 4 hours a day. Re-hash what he thought people found funny about The Office and everyone will tell him its brilliant. When really he doesnt have any more jokes, just putting your characters in really awkward uncomfortable situations is not great comedy imo, but it seems to be the crux of everything he does.
he said this earlier, the office was his life's work and had years to perfect everything else was a bit more forced and time pressured.
it was ok. bit weird for a one off, no real character development apart from someone dying and someone else getting a date. on the office the tragic girl who gave up her dreams to work a crappy job worked because we saw it build over about 20 hours, on this it was settled after 30 minutes and hinted at after 15.
wasn't particularly funny either but i'm not sure that was the point. also some of it was very reminiscent of the office [see: "do you think there will ever be a person who lives older than a tortoise"; karl pilkington's character basically being a slightly different version of tim]. makes me think we shouldn't completely give up on Gervais' screenwriting ability.
the scene of him finishing an old woman's scratchcards while by her dead body was brilliant but again it would've worked better if we'd had a series or even more than 20 minutes of them being friends. the thing is, stuff like this usually takes a few episodes at least to iron out the characters and stuff. look at something like Grandma's House, first few episodes were boring as but when it got going it was really good.
for a one off it seemed like there was too much squeezed in which meant it wa sless satisfying - it would've been nice to see more between hannah/derek, derek/joan, more of david earl full stop. if it was a full series it'd flesh it out alot more.
also it wasn';t too funny but i don't think it was meant to be. and cemetery junction is brilliant
is that in The Office & Extras the main character and the star had stuff in common so it was more believable and he could do a good job. And in Grandma's House it was the same except Simon Amstell just is that character in real life. And fairly importantly those programmes were all funnier. Partly because of the familiarity that the writers have w/the real life subject matter
The feeling I got from this was that RG has no idea about that particular environment at all and it made it really unconvincing. What is mad is that he's gone from the subtle drama (bits) of the Office to hitting us round the head with how sad everything is in Derek. Like Tim From The Office peering across the room quietly said so much more than Derek actually saying 'be nice to old people cos they won't be around for long'.
couldn't forget that it was just Ricky Gervais scuttling round with a stupid look on his face though. Wasn't really funny either. But definitely better than Life's Too Short.
Having to introduce all the characters and their motives while trying to balance it with drama/comedy.
I think people expected to turn the TV on and instantly start laughing.
A new comedy is rarely that funny with the first episode. Maybe once all of the characters traits have been established; punchlines etc, and you go back and watch the first episode again you'll find it funnier than the first viewing.
In fact I can't think of one comedy - sketch shows aside - where the first episode has been AS hilarious as the subsequent episodes.
I can't imagine this is intended to be a laugh out loud chucklefest of a comedy anyway, in fact some of the more obvious comedy bits seemed a bit out of place with the rest of the show
Came across all riled up about not being bothered what people think (journos) but still banged on about it for a while.
Something about having derek the character for 10 years and gave ch4 first refusal, they loved it and wanted to put the pilot out. If they'd gone ahead with the autograph guy it would have been extras by the sounds of it, but woul dhave allowed to develop the characters in 50 mins rather than the 24 min pilot ch4 wanted.
Thought the knocking on Joan's door was funny.
what would win a suicide bomber or a shark? :D
that line is a bit Gareth Keenan as Mug Mug Mug mentioned...
As in it reminded me of "I was wonderin will there ever be a boy born who can swim faster than a shark".
Awful. He's finished. I think we already knew this after that shower of utter utter utter shit (Life's Too Short) but this has now confirmed it for me.
People would feel guilty not liking it.
Like a proper little bit of art.
Karl was really good, and had all the funniest bits.
Quite enjoyed it, but 30 mins wasn't long enough for it to do too much after taking care of all the scene-setting and character introductions though
Gervais saying "if you think this guy's a (his words) 'mong' then laughing at him makes you a hypocrite/you don't know whether he's a 'mong' or not/if you're not laughing it's probably because you think he's a 'mong'.
maybe i misunderstood it...but i only really laughed at the basic slapstick stuff, like him sitting on the pie or falling in the pond.
who would know who I was thinking of?
Didn't watch this- didn't strike me as my sort of thing.
I thought it was really gentle and sweet. It was kind of billed as a sitcom, which was a bit daft coz it was much more of a drama, but I thought it was very good. My dad, who was cringing his face off at the beginning, said at the end he thought it was on the fine line between genius and total rubbish. It definitely wasn't total rubbish but I think if they make a series out of it it could be a low key masterpiece
Did he work at the home?
He was rubbish. Made the whole thing a bit grubby.
If so he's going ot be a major part of the series if it gets made, Derek will get involved in autograph hunting, cue lots of celebs!!
but I could have easily made it. Wasn't much thought behind it; his character was lazy, it felt rushed, there was too much slapstick. On the whole it felt really forced. Fair enough as light entertainment for the night, but not to be praised through and through.
where Derek hurries to Joan's door to give her the money she won the sadder I feel
really loved it, i must say. i can't be the only one who got a bit emotional at the end where [karl's character] was offered a cup of tea?
it's a derivative, cloying irredeemable sack of utter bollocks. Plotless, cliched, predictable humourless tripe
Nonsensical, schmaltzy, trite poorly written tosh
Seriously, the only lessons learned from the abysmal pilot was that it needed some actual comedy, so they bring in the grubby long haired guy who, to be fair had some ok bits, but fuck me it was poor. Fuck. Me. It was poor
yeah it was toss
thanks for making my mind up
if you ever need guidance on what is crap and what isn't then come my way.
I shall show you the light
Thought the pilot had its moments and got the balance between laugh out loud funny and cringe right. If Episode 1 is better than the pilot than that sounds good.
The Derek pilot was one of the worst things I've ever seen, Life's Too Short was one of the worst things I've ever seen, and yet I'll still watch this 1st episode.
I can't think of anyone else whose talent has faded for so long and yet I'll still go back, just to check.
Apart from poor, lazy writing, what possible reason does the council inspector man have to attempt to 'diagnose' Derek with autism? Does this guy just wade around elderly care homes like a walking plot device suggesting that people get tested for autism? Is that what council inspectors do?
If anyone wants me I'll be outside, strutting
isn't it the same reason he is questions about having people on community service volunteer there, he is looking for flaws in the care home
Out of the fuckin' blue?
He's exhausted it
But I really want to hate it because Ricky has become the most insufferable cunt. He is like a 6 year old who has discovered that Santa isn't real and so has to tell everyone to make himself appear somewhat smarter than everyone else. Also that picture of him on the magazine with atheist written across his chest :D
Amazingly Karl is the only redeeming feature so far. The Derek character is appalling.
If Ricky wanted to make some shmalzy programme about how important care homes are why didn't he make an ACTUAL doc for once, would've been more insightful than this garbage.
that community service girl having two sugars in her tea. haha. And the "I've never got 10/10 for anyfin before" bit.
Ricky Gervais doing that stupid dancing.
Awful and condescending soppy piano music that any man and his dog could've improvised is very grating as well.
People on here woulda liked it though. Bit o' Radiohead at the end.
it'll go away, won't it?
Ricky Gervais 3 UGC 0
you've gotta find a more constructive way of dealing with your anger than swearing at people you don't know on the internet.
if anyone's wondering
I think it is alright, it obviously isn't meant to be a laugh a minute sitcom, there have been a few nice moments if a little forced.
i love it
i find kev really annoying. i know he's meant to be the comic relief character, but i think his character is just kinda stupid.
offensive and shit and offensively shit
However, stupidly didn't turn off and ended up watching half of 'Anna & Katy' - genuinely appalling and offensive (sample sketch - two white women hosting a This Morning type programme, only talking in patois...) Well done Derek for not being the worst thing I've seen on TV this year.