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let's just ignore their trolling.
I hated it.
Can this thread now be about Budgies?
This isn't what we voted for!
it seems people just whinge about beer, or fags, or fuel going up marginally, then forget about it in a couple of weeks.
unless you are of use or freindly with them
I make it closer to £25
Starts from 13/14 tax year, it's only an increase of 895 from the 8105 in 12/13.
They'd have to increase it by 6000, to give basic taxpayers an extra £100p/m
an increase to 8105 is only £630 @20 or £126 for the whole year (£10.50 per month)
8105 in 12/13 to a possible 9000 in 13/14.
i suppose on £55k, you could argue that you will save at 40% but that depends on the shift on the bands ;)
it doesn't have to be money, just something like everyone has to be extra nice to me for a year. it'd be good for the economy.
The only scant pleasure to be derived from todays news will be watching for the twitches as Osborne nervously waves his red box in the air, his disconcerting smile attacked yet again by the repressed memories of yet another time Tarquin and the big boys did unmentionable things to him in the boarding house boiler room.
and scrapped by the coalition upon coming to power iirc.
Which makes this all the more surprising.
'In March 2010, however, Alistair Darling announced Labour's intention to provide the UK development sector with tax incentives. For a few months, it looked as though the Tiga campaign had been successful. But then came the general election, and although both the Conservative and Liberal parties had given lip service to the idea of tax support for the games industry, that all dissolved in George Osborne's emergency budget, where he referred to the cause as 'poorly targeted'.'
excellent foresight there, Gideon.
to most people this'll look like a Coalition policy now, whereas in the past it was very much a Labour one.
Excellent, more wasted paper. Nice to tell people what their money's going on, but surely it could have been done online.
although given HMRC's record in recent years, I can see it being expensive and an admin nightmare to produce.
Doesn't it rely on them actually knowing what tax you've paid? In my experience, they're pretty bad at getting that right.
it is irelevant....it is true that to know what tax people have paid will be a pre-requisit, but how can they not have that information?
If they dont, and it is widespread enough then the recommendation will to not leave feasibility and not enter delivery phase.
If the required information is not available then that is not a facet of this new printing project as it is fundemental in itself to belong to its own improvement of records project, and as such the printing project would be dependant upon the improvement project (unless the commissioners dont mind the potential embarrisment of only sending out letters to some people and to the rest sending out apologies saying 'it has not been possible to calculate your tax breakdown at present'
(if it were i n my hands I would have them send out communiques saying it has not been possible to calculate your tax breakdown at present as it has not been possible to obtain details of how much tax you have paid. :)
any missing data that would be needed regarding individuals is not the concern of the printing project, as the gravity of this sort of missing information is far greater than for the purpose of printing these breakdowns.
I would refuse for the costs for getting the info in a correct state to be lumbered onto the print project.
And from thereon in its plain sailing, there will be the normal headache of peoples addresses and using postcodes and stuff and incomplete addresses, but many large lettering projects have these same problems and the strategems for these can be copied (a mixture of the techniques would be used for the addressing, although since there is no financial imperitive dependant upon peope recieving the breakdowns it is not so much of a problem.
can you imagine the fuss when they send out hundreds of thousands of incorrect tax statements?
HMRC has a history of sending out incorrect tax codes, incorrect demands for extra payments, mixing up people's details and other such mishaps - only last month they told the Student Loan Company that I'm unemployed when I'm clearly not (I've got the PAYE statements to show that I'm still paying tax).
I agree that it *should* be easy, but I have very little faith that they're going to get everything in order in time for these statements. Hopefully they can show that history isn't a good indicator.
by freezing allowance
having to try to argue against lifting 2 million people out of paying income tax. Almost.
ed miliband is a good parliamentarian.
A plague on all their houses.
It's on all sides but EdM is one of the worst.
He has quite a studied indignant tone but he's nowhere near the sneering suit/public school boy persona...that's for tories.
It kinda tars your feminism, tbh.
I'd say the latter.
Now Cameron and Osborne on the other hand...
yes he has to engage in the simplistic point scoring debating style that is a requirement of being in opposition, but I dont think he has a choice, thats just the way politics works in this country, if he didnt he'd be considered even more of a no mark than he is now
He is absolutely riding the horse of smackdown!
which suggests that at least some of it's hit the mark. Can't help but wonder whether he made a mistake in trailing it all so heavily and giving Labour more of a chance to get at some of the detail than oppositions have had in the past.
when it emerged that only 6 businesses had benefited from those regional centres. yeah, that's right business secretary you're going down in history as a complete failure.
was to wrongfoot Labour when the actual Budget came out, you know, slightly different. Instead it was..erm, stupid?
Guess I'm off to the shops then.
I'm going to have to give up.
WAHMBULANCE FOR ME PLEASE!
I quite liked smoking as well...
I presume it's a tax on winnings, which is factored into the odds uk bookmakers will offer?
I can't be bothered to read everything.
not to remove the 50% rate until after the public sector pay freeze had finished.
things about using the internet to get your news and information is that you tend to create a 'feed' of information that is broadly in line with your own views and outlook. Twitter is probably the best example of this, but it's also maybe true for the news sites you visit, the forums you post on, etc.
So when I say that the last few days have left the Tories (and by association the Lib Dems) looking like a bag of festering donkey dicks, I know that this is in part resulting from the sources of response that I myself choose to look at, as well as the people that I choose to associate with in the actual real world and that. So I'll be interested to see what the angle will be from the wider media this week: the Telegraph and Sun I can imagine, but things have been a bit less predictable from the mail lately. What response is the news about the NHS getting, for example? If anything?
"Budget: George Osborne's £3bn pension raid helps pay for tax cuts
Five million pensioners will be worse off after George Osborne froze age-related allowances for older people in his Budget.
Backing business, but punishing the rich. Eh?
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I thought they'd toe the line.
..Toe the line? Tow the line? Help me out here.
from tow path
isibuko is correct.
a commitment to end VAT borderline anomalies. Means that we won't have to spend years in the courts arguing about bloody hot chickens or what some bastard has done to his listed building.
The way he asked the question about how many of the Cabinet will benefit from the Budget was pretty cringey.
Osborne's line about wanting to keep Wallace and Gromit where they are was much better I thought.
and Miliband's line about the Budget benefiting Cameron enough that he can now afford to buy his own horse.
Assuming it was pre-scripted, it was a poor effort.
it's like in the advert! he said the thing in the advert?
66 apply VAT to approved alterations to listed buildings to bring them into line with the VAT treatment of alterations to non-listed buildings, and repairs and maintenance for all buildings; 99
But I thought I'd return to this thread to a raft of negativity about it. Which doesn't seem to have happened.
Does this mean that the budget is, like, actually alright or something?
It's just completely expected.
That £100m to help local councils repair potholes came out of nowhere though HUH?
These strikes are wrong at a time when negotiations are still going on.
But parents and the public have been let down by both sides because the government has acted in a reckless and provocative manner.
After today’s disruption, I urge both sides to put aside the rhetoric, get round the negotiating table and stop it happening again.
due to lack of resource of customers (whether corporate or personal), reduction of corporation tax only helps if you are actually making sales.
though i guess there are some businesses that are considering expanding, and this might provide some more incentive.
For a government who are obsessed with the deficit and borrowing to not make unemployment a priority and spell out how they intend to grow the economy seems a bit strange to me. Almost like it was written by someone without any background in economics, oh hang on.....
In virtually every country that's pursued that policy in that last twenty-odd years (i.e. pretty much every Western Country or country looking for aid funding) growth has stagnated or dropped.
Quite aside from any ethical argument on tax cuts for the rich, even on practical grounds it doesn't really work.
Oh no wait now I remember that the last 5 years happened and Neo-Liberalism has been shown to be a load of shit.
less very rich people would tax avoid cos of the lower rate thus the amount of money declared would increase, or something like that, maybe it was that more millionairres would flock to the UK because of the tax reduction or something.....perhaps sir michael caine will now return to these shores?
based on completely unfounded assumptions. Something about the 50p tax being bad for the economy because people won't pay it, and people are far more likely to pay the 45p rate because that's such a big difference and people aren't inherently greedy. OR SUTIN.
was that revenue from the 50p rate wasn't as high as expected as a huge £16bn in earnings were brought forward and taken before its introduction.
66 "HMRC find that an astonishing £16bn of income was deliberately shifted into the previous tax year - at a cost to the taxpayer of £1bn, something that the previous government's figures made no allowance for whatsoever," the chancellor said." 99
Which I would've thought makes a case for retaining the 50p rate for more than a year as taxable earnings will be £16bn higher this year (using highly accurate fag-packet maths)
and I have to ask
where the fuck did the phrase 'Welfare Consumers' come from? Did Gideon invent this or has it been around for a while?
Surprisingly enough, it co-incides with me wanting to listen to your emigration spiel again. Maybe there IS something better than this... :(
I see the combination of the NHS reforms and the further reduction in corporation tax means that GSK have announced the creation of 1000 new jobs today. Impeccable timing. That's growth sorted.
Indeed, if they ever did...
OF COURSE IT IS FUCKING SUSPICIOUS THAT GSK ANNOUNCED THIS IMMEDIATELY.
SURELY IT IS OBVIOUS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN IN PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS WITH THE GOV AND BOTH PARTIES HAVE HAD AN AGREEMENT
HOW DARE YOU CAST ASPERSIONS agains b.i.t.t when the post they made is perfectly valid, you are such a fucking typical tory, if someone raises a valid cynicism, you just say it is insane, that is always the dumb tories last resort, just totally refute something despite its possible validity
their freinf (osbourne) get his budget management to look better, and to vindicate in general cuts to taxes in favour of big wage earners and corp tax reduction.
and it is obvious that they were ready and waiting to do this, it is therefore obvious that they had forehints of what was in the budget, this might be 'wrongdoing' but it is small beer compared with the other awfulness they do (also it is something that we expect big business and gov do in secret anyway)
I like it, that's the kind of turn of phrase I can really get behind
you make me feel like just calling tories names which is unfair on more reasoned (relatively ;)) tories such as raanraals and alex in C
Here's a company announcing 1000 jobs (not enough in itself, but that's still a lot of jobs), and BITT has got all pissy for some reason. They're not the right kind of jobs or they're jobs that have come about in the wrong way or something I don't know.
All thsi shows me is that Government polices are working to create jobs in the private sector. What would you/he rather, that GSK said "oh, alright then, we won't bother creating these jobs. We'll just pay the Chief Exec a slightly bigger bonus this year"?
1000 new jobs in the private sector
Government policies are working to create jobs
JSA claims have increased by 150,000 in the same period
I was right to say you have gone past the point of being taken seriously in this thread.
is that last year the government suffered a net loss of 270,000 posts in the public sector but the public sector only generated 226,000. Since Osborne's emergency budget in June 2010, the nation's lost 30,000 jobs.
the healthcare reforms so I wouldn't worry yourself.
picked up a knighthood in the New Year, as well.
66 Although being introduced by the coalition, the idea of a Patent Box was first proposed by the then Labour government in the 2009 Budget. 99
Barrel-scraping good news.
See also: the death of the 'passenger'. A word which imputes a certain duty of care for the individual.
We're all just public transport 'customers' now. With no imputation of responsiblity for the person travelling
the problem is surely that these people aren’t earning 10k in the first place? An extra tenner a month is hardly going to help out anyone. Over the past decade the cost of living has inflated massively but wages have stayed the same, and the minimum wage itself is a joke
all looks pretty uninspiring really
much of a muchness innit
It seems to be that the budget for the next few years will consist solely of deciding exactly what flavour of shit the Country will have to eat!