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definitely something dodgy about Hat Man near the ring, but Peterson seems a thoroughly likeable chap, and i personally didn't understand the outrage over either a) the ref penalising Khan after several warnings, or b) the decision itself given that most people had it by a round or two either way.

i had Khan by a round, even with two points off, but half of the rounds could've easily gone either way.

He's apparently from quite a wealthy Zimbabwean family...and got £330k for fighting Klitschko recently, which whilst small fry so far as heavyweight world title purses might go, isn't a bad little earner.

Just turkeys not voting for Christmas, innit.

i used to think similar, but i like the lads now.

great role models compared to most of them, tbh, and definitely underrated technically, though they wouldn't have been dominant in some other eras, i think that's fair enough to say.

but it's a pretty interesting fight given both of their backgrounds.

Might get a bit tasty at ringside, for sure.

Did he rap his ringwalk? He looked good, but en the other guy seemed rubbish.

These current two like to throw bombs.

I've put £3 on a draw between Macklin and Martinez: I think Sergio will take it, but 85/1 was too decent to pass up!

rely on my looks and brains to get by, couldn't risk destroying either.

Consists of pairing up with someone and doing pad/crashpad work, but it's non-contact. For keeping fit, it is tremendous. My only reservation with actual boxing is that I don't want to get punched in the head. :-)

but Martinez showed his class and experience and breezed it after that.

no way back after that 11th round, which had to be a 10-7. right decision to pull him out.

absolutely no shame in taking Martinez 11 rounds.

What the hell was up with Fury's shorts?

Dunno if it was those or his awkward southpaw stance but he looked pretty stupid the first couple of rounds. Got his jab working and finished smartly though.

I think he should have retired with dignity after Ward,super six surely set him up for life? Bute is hungry (even though he is surprisingly old) and has a nice style, if it wasn't for home town advantage I'd be heavily backing Bute.

But I think Bradley's style is such that is should be a good fight, he's certainly better than the last few guys Pac man has faced.

Pacquaio needs a decent show, especially if he's got any hopes of a) fighting mayweather; and b) beating him. His last cple of fights have been shaky to say the least.

illie v seferi, cruiser weights.

I think the Khan fight will be immense, looking forward to see what both of them are made of, I think Garcia might just edge it.

wonder if they'll pull they stunt they did with the klitschko - chisora fight and screen it for all...

as I think it's all a bit silly.

Looking forward to Khan/Garcia, though. Should be a cracker, as you say.

Don't think it will be much of a fight mind. Much more up for Khan Garcia like you say. Anyone know what time the ringwalk is expected to be for that one. Silly o clock in the morning I expect.

Got a feeling Haye v Chisora is going to turn into a total farce. Both of them are such utter cunts too.

Khan v Garcia should be awesome, really excited about it. If i was a betting man I'd go with Khan in the 9th round.

i quite ike to watch a good boxing match but know little about it. whenever i've seen haye fight it's been pretty shite

cheers chumps

Then again, so did everyone else.

Might get som shuteye then get back up

youve got to stop that

proper football or cricket.

Thought Khan would win, but 11/2, ffs!

It's pretty obvious to me that Khan simply isn't tough enough for tear-ups. As much as he's been in a couple of crackers, his punch resistance is actually pretty poor. If he can discipline himself to counterpunch, i don't see why he can't beat anyone in the world around those weights bar the big two...but if he gets suckered into brawls then Maidana (who'd win any rematch, imho), Rios, and Alexander, Berto, Bradley at welterweight are just going to beat him up.

Thought he boxed the perfect fight until the first knockdown, but once the bombs started coming his head went west. They were hardly great punches either, just basic over the top right and lefts that a fighter of Khan's class should be able to avoid all day.

but i wonder if a catchweight fight against a domestic opponent from the weight BELOW his current division may make sense - say Ricky Burns, Kevin Mitchell, or even John Murray.

Anyone else think that Kahn is a bit too technical? He seems to want to fight very proper, and when he comes up against people who harrass and fight with a bit of attitude and heart he seems to not know what the hell to do. Hes a good fighter, but needs to get a bit of a mean edge or something.

up for that

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FRAMPTON v MOLITOR (SS1)
Think Frampton might be the real deal. Would fancy him against any of the other top British fighters at his weight - Munroe, Galahad, even Quigg, but Molitor is (or was, idk) very tough. Seen him come to Britain several times and win well, but he's getting on a bit now and has been quite inactive. Boxing's about matchmaking, though, and British promoters particularly have a habit of getting overseas fighters just when they're at the tipping point of their careers.
PREDICTION: Frampton by early stoppage.

BURNS v MITCHELL (BoxNation)
Arguably the biggest domestic fight out there at the moment. Could go either way. Burns is certainly the most-improved British fighter, better technically, and has fought very well against some very good opponents. Mitchell's hard to predict; could punish Burns physically, could 'do a Hatton' (throw the tactics manual out of the window and go forward in straight lines).
PREDICTION: Burns by late stoppage.

http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=171443&part=sports

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20137782

Pretty sad.

Arguably the greatest boxing trainer of all time.

any halp?

http://gifsoup.com/view2/4277753/cung-le-o.gif

The more i hear about his troubles post the Pacquaio defeat the more i'm concerned about him. I honestly thought he was too smart to get back in the ring, though i can completely understand why training, getting fit, and being back in the public eye might be good for his mental health short term, results permitting.

I don't necessarily believe his reasons for coming back. He says it's for redemption, but what if he's KO'd again, this time infront of his home crowd, where would that leave him? Even if he wins a poor version of a title, it's hardly white horse stuff, is he just going to call it a day and all's well, i'm not sure.

I think it's much more likely that he's fighting to save his promotions company, who were dropped by Sky earlier this year. It's a shame, because his promoting career has so far been very promising, but there's just nowhere for him to go with it now Matchroom and Hennessey have exclusivity deals with Sky & Five, Frank Warren's branched out and the terrestrial stations have had to make cutbacks financially.

Emotion aside, purely from a fighting point of view, i'm highly dubious he'll have the punch resistance to see off even a mid-level world fighter. I also have doubts about his timing fitness-wise. He seemed eager to look in shape for the press conference months ago, perhaps understandably, but if anything he looks a bit gaunt now. You have to time your training to be in peak condition on the night, not weeks beforehand.

Whatever happens, i hope he's sound long-term. Word is he's cut off ties with his family, who were against his comeback. He talks pretty candidly about wanting to take his own life most days. There's an eerie glazed-over look in his eyes when he's interviewed. It's just pretty sad all round, really.

Anyway, people should read this Guardian piece, even if they don't have an interest in boxing - http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/nov/23/ricky-hatton-vyacheslav-senchenko

i'm not sure fat ricky and boxing ricky are the same people

capture area

For me, it's not a question of whether he should fight again or not (he shouldn't), but more about his future generally. He seems like a broken man. Don't know if i'm being overly dramatic or what not, but i genuinely have serious concerns about the fella's wellbeing.

Absolute quality and a masterclass in body punching. Quigg v Frampton will be amazing!

Do any of you itk types have some tips for a n00b? Podcasts/documentaries/books/radio or TV shows etc? Any classic fights on youtube or similar that I could watch?

This might need it’s own thread really.

like those old fashioned boxers. put a cigar in his mouth

that was rough

That was almost funny. Thank God the other guy was a joker.

Scored it 10/9, 8/10, 10/9, 10/9.

Flintoff's clearly not a boxer, was very crude, and was fighting an absolute pudding, but hit footwork was actually pretty good, his legs were strong and he recovered well from the knockdown.

In a way, yeah, it devalues boxing a bit. In another, you've got a man there who's had a long, public fight with depression, so fair play, and if it brings a few more people to smaller boxing shows, great.

Tyson Fury and his opponent doing a Bette Midler duet on the piano ahead of their fight. WTF?

think he's been looking for an out for some time now, and there's been a decline in him every fight since Cotto. His heart just ain't in it any more.

Happy for Marquez, though. Some boxing writers say he won all four fights.

was shaping up to be a pwopah scrap. Marquez face was a bit of a mess. That punch though.....ooooof.
the interviewer in the ring kept telling Pacquiao to watch the knockout ' we're going to see the knockout now....here it is, here is him knocking you out...what did you think of that punch?' Pacquiao just looked dazed and dejected, should of told him to go fuck himself

BoxNation card including Frank Buglioni, Liam Smith, Billy Joe Saunders, then George Groves v Glen Johnon. Groves is never going to stop Johnson, but he might've caught him at the right time for a wide points victory, though he has been quite inactive.

Then Amir Khan v Carlos Molina on Sky. Gonna be about a 4:30am start for the main event itself. A very tough fight for Khan, especially travelling. His new trainer, Virgil Hunter, seems like quite a canny guy, though. If Khan can keep to his gameplan, he should be too big for Molina. If he doesn't, he could quite easily get sparked out again.

Alfred Angulo, and 100% knockout specialist Deontay Wilder are both on that undercard, around the same time on BoxNation there's Donaire v Arce, which could be a right tear-up.

He won't be as reckless as he was against Garcia

I've always thought his main problem is more a lack of focus, rather than simply having a glass chin. His hand speed is outstanding, if he keeps his concentration levels to the standard of last night he'll be a major contender again. Virgil Hunter seemed to be on his case during every round and perhaps that's what he needs.