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Your job. 5+ and 5-
Everyone seems to hate their jobs at the moment, as Jordan_229_2 once famously said; 'jobs a job init'.
So give me five pros and five cons of your current job.
Go.
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+ i can get away with being on DiS A LOT
+ my bosses trust me enough that when i'm late (every day) they don't care. i work my lunch a lot and stay late if needed. which i don't mind
+ the money is good
+ i get to play around with spreadsheets all day
+ i don't really have much of an agenda. as long as i'm seen to be providing useful data and supporting the department then they more or less let me get on with whatever i fancy doing. hey, think i'll work out the raw material cost of a double cheeseburger.
fuck your cons!
fuck YOUR cons!
there are none!
Everyone needs a little negativity in their lives, c_r.
that doesn't sound right
what is your job title?
planning analyst
it has anal in it
<3
+ i can wander in late and take long lunches, so long as I meet my targets
+ I get away with murder
+ I get paid well
+ umm. we have free fruit and a 'pop' fridge full of free cans of coke
+ it is a job
- with the exception of one guy, the partners are loathsome
- it blackens my soul on a daily basis
- I am on call 24 hours seven days a week- have had to cancel holidays and had to take a conf call at a friend's wedding in december
- it skews my perception of reality because it's an unreal world
- I am golden handcuffed by it (but trying to free myself at present. back to stripping, I guess.)
You (and my housemate) were partly the reason for this thread.
He kind of has the opposite to me. Really well paid, but intense, stressful, long working hours etc.
We were discussing the pros/cons and trying to decide which we'd prefer. Didn't really come to any conclusions.
I don't know the answer either
i feel like I'm wasting my life, to be honest, but I feel like such an ungrateful bitch for thinking like this.
It's all relative, innit.
There are always people better and worse off than you, no reason to feel ungrateful.
it blackens my soul on a daily basis
That shit's pretty bleak
Get back to stripping
I know :(
Even bleaker is the fact that stripping's not much better (and of course I'm way too old for it now.)
Do you work in law?
yes, I do
sounds like my wife's career
she's left the law now though
what did she go into?
at the moment I'm looking at three options:
1. setting up my own practice. Will mean a move back to glasgow next year and will cost me my worldly goods if it goes bad.
2. moving to an inhouse position in the hope of working towards a board appointment which will take me into the commercial side of things. which company though? am very torn.
3. going to work for a former client setting up a fund of high net worths which will either do very well or end in disaster.
oh yeah 4. stripping.
She's now a freelance make up artist
Quite a change from criminal defence.
They don't sound like great options for you :(
God I'd love to do something creative
I need to stop talking and start thinking/ doing.
You can bankroll me if you want
I'll create commissions for you and I'll let you dance all you want, I don't even mind
this could be a winner
I do love to dance.
That's settled then.
I love a DiS business deal.
A DiSiness beal? No.
A DiSiness beal :)
I have so much to thank DiS for. i now have a husband and a dancee.
Woah
I don't know about dancee. I create my masterpieces, you can be my glamorous international art dealer. *You* can dance all you want, I make no promises of dancing. There may be dancing, there may not, it depends on where my muse takes me. I must be alone now
*meditates*
I'm like this guy but with glasses
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t29/T_eyla/spaced/brian-1.jpg
no you ARe the dancee in that I will be imnosing my dancing upon you
whilst dealing in your art :)
imnosing :D
IMPOSING.
Just nod along, andyvine, just appease me here.
*nods*
I'd slip you a tenner
Wahey!
*perfectly executes a bunny dip*
I can still do them, just about. and thanks, i might need that tenner soon :)
Phwoar!
wait till you see my one legged backbend
(Actually you can- it's on facebook after a friend helpfully uploaded it yesterday.)
Too soon, man.
Pavarotti's still warm.
I don't call it Pavarotti any more
woah woah. you used to be a stripper?
i hope it wasnt at your dads place.
It was at your dad's place
:D
which bumhat decided this 5+/- shite > 2 good, 2 bad?
5+ > 2good 2 bad
not into the - though
in conclusion
i think it was me
Soz. I couldn't do this as a ^This thread, though.
Answer the questions please.
+ Been here for about 7 weeks, not long enough to have become jaded and cynical.
+ It's at a children's charity which, discounting a brief period during my childhood during which I aspired to be a dinosaur when I grew up, is the sector I've most wanted to work.
+ I'm not being micromanaged like I have been in most previous jobs and everyone seems nice.
+ Probably the most varied and interesting remit I've had in a job, which is nice.
+ Best wage, pension, holiday allowance etc that I've ever had or would ever have working for a private commercial company.
- I don't like my desk very much.
- I'm in a room with one of those people who always wants the heating on.
- The Hammersmith & City line is a bit crap compared to most other tubes.
- Erm, I had to move loads of books earlier and now I'm a bit dusty.
- It's a charity job, so I'll DEFINITELY be made redundant at some point.
Oh, yeah. I should probs do mine.
LES PLUSES:
1) It's really laid back. Incredibly so.
2) I've never once thought/stressed about work outside of my working hours. Clock off and that's it for the day.
3) I can book days off/holidays at incredibly late notice, with my colleagues' leave having no effect on mine.
4) It's a really nice building, in a really nice location.
5) I can get away with doing little-to-no work, most of the time.
LES MINUSES:
1) I'm hardly ever challenged.
2) Feel a bit like I'm wasting my working life.
3) My colleagues are total wonderbras.
4) Not really much chance of progression.
5) There's not enough toilets.
wonderbras <3 :D
I like the sound of your job. you can find challenges outside of working life to keep your brain ticking over. I'm coming to realise it's not actually a necessity within a job itself. What do you actually do? because I want to do it, whatever it is.
I'm a cad, I don't really do much cadding though.
I don't really do *anything*.
I can't decide if this is A Good Thing or A Bad Thing.
I can't complain, really.
^Pretty much word for word, bro.
Okay:
+ At a basic level, I write for a living, which has been my ambition for a long time
+ I get to go outside and meet interesting people
+ I have the freedom to be on DiS (is this a good thing?)
+ I work with a good team with a great sense of humour
+ This is good training and experience to tackle a load of other stuff
- The pay is dogshit, less that half of what some of my best mates who went into big graduate job get
- The hours are long, maybe not compared to a city lawyer, but definitely for the recompense
- High stress. You rely on people and when they let you down you have to find an alternative or else
- Repetitive. After a couple of years I'm doing the same kind of things over and over again.
- It's a dying industry, quite specialised, difficult to escape from, provincial and small minded.
Oh, and everyone hates us (this is bad but can also be a source of pride).
I wonder the same about DiS usage.
It's good fun, but I wonder what I'd do with my time at work if I never came on here.
For a long time I thought I must be amazing because I was keeping up with my colleagues while also DiSsing.
Then around Christmas my boss took me aside and told me I really wasn't keeping up with my colleagues.
I'm not doing 10, Im a busy man
but I quite like my job and have managed to upset the few dislikeable people enough that they avoid me. To say its a failry badly paid job, theres a lot of clever helpful people here
hmmm
+ I am always here if my kids need me/picking up/are sick
+ I love what I actually DO
+ naptimes I get to come on here
+ no commute
+ I get to moreorless chose what to do every day
- the MESS
- the POO
- badly paid
- load of paperwork to do out of paid hours
- Can be a bit lonely
truthfully
All I really want is your job.
you could!
no qualifications needed - just an insulting 'basics' course, few reg fees, CRB, get some toys and you're away...plus you could charge a hefty £4odd an hour being in that fancy london
hmmm. I might actually give this some serious thought
:)
+ I'm working on a game I've loved for well over a decade now and getting a chance to influence it's future
+ I can wear what I want and get to arrive at work at nothing even resembling a real adult start-time for most of the year
+ I get plenty of perks, free gym membership etc
+ I get to play football weekly if I want and get paid whilst doing so, this technically means I'm a professional footballer
+ I work with fantastic people, I'd consider myself mates with 99% of my colleagues and two of them are actual proper bonafide mates from my school days
- The pay isn't great at all
- For a couple of months in the late summer/early autumn my life completely disappears into a sea of 14 hour days 7 days a week and takeaways which leads to all sorts of self-loathing
- The feeling when you fuck up and it goes out to hundreds of thousands of people is a sinking one
- Piracy makes for quite an uncertain market in terms of job security
- Seeing negative feedback/reviews can be a bit of a downer
this technically means I'm a professional footballer
:D
+ can get away with being on here
+get to listen to a lot of music
+ unlimited o/t at the mo
+ it's fairly secure job
+ There's maybe one person here i'd be friends with outside of work
- everyone else (give or take a couple mebs) are belmos.
- The pay is fucking atrocious.
- It's rotting my brain, the work's very very simple.
- Was meant to be a stopgap...will have been here 4yrs next month
- the guy i share an office with farts a lot and eats with his mouth open
- loads of others.
+I'm well thought of (somehow)
+Pretty Relaxed Office
+I get to chose the radio station
+Sometimes we get bought Pizza
+Plenty of scope for DiS
-The office is moving to Warrington
-I have to make soul destroying business to business calls
-The company is all over the place structurally
-There a lot of dicks
-There's not a looker in the bunch.
where do you work in warrington
my mate works in warrington.
so does mine
small world
We haven't moved yet but from what I can gather it's a 20 minute bus ride from Warrington Central.
Takes my commute from 20 minutes on my bike to 1 and a half with a train tram and bus. Safe to say I'm looking for a new job.
You could always move to Warri...
Nope, sorry - couldn't finish that!
Exactly why couldn't they move somewhere cool.
:(
you can't count
What do you do?!
:(
My Girlfriend is in a similar boat.
...
+ It's a job
+ I have lots of responsibility
+ It's in the sector I've wanted to work in since the year dot.
+ My editor is really cool
+ I get to travel around sometimes
- The CEO is a lunatic who is like this: http://intepid.com/res/417.gif
- Our workload is two magazines, one in a language I can't even read, and which ever other side-projects Dougal has us working on.
- I have far too much work on. At the minute with my editor off, I am currently performing roles which would be done by six to eight staffers at other companies.
- The culmination of all this is that this is the least professional place I've worked. All it is is churning and scraping for survival because it's all we can do. I'd fucking love to be able to go out, investigate, be a hound and you know, actually be a journalist. But I just can't.
oh yeah and of course, the pay is shite
made even worse when people I went to uni with are earning double my income.
Dougal :D
+ free parking in Car Park A
+ free parking in Car Park B
+ free parking in Car Park C
+ free parking in Car Park D
+ free parking in Car Park E
- no parking in Car Park F
- no parking in Car Park G
- no parking in Car Park H
- no parking in Car Park I
- no parking in Car Park J
:D
+ flex time which = free days off if I bum around for a bit at the end of each day
+ pays enough to keep me going plus I get a bonus
+ not too busy most of the time which means minimal stress
+ very rarely even think about work after I'm done
+ aforementioned flex time means I can be home before 4 some days
- totally not challenging/stretching me (main reason why I need to leave soon)
- it's a big company so loads of stupid health & saftey rules etc
- a fair few people are idiots who have been with the company for 25 years and think they're the best thing ever just because they work here
- really bureaucratic
- want to work for a smaller company where I can get my hands dirty in the technical stuff way more often
This sounds similar to me.
I can't decide if I'd rather be 'challenged', and take all the extra responsibility/hassle/stress of a different job somewhere else, or I'm happy to just plod along and see what happens. I am incredibly lazy, so probably that.
It's just shit when I hear my mates speak of their jobs, and have to let their bosses know what holiday dates they want in January and if someone else has booked those dates then they have to work around it. It fucking sucks.
I've got to the stage where I want the challenge
I know I could do a lot more, think I'd find it really interesting and I wouldn't mind working longer hours (within reason) to do something that pushed me further.
Don't think I'd take a pay cut for it though, which is probably holding me back a bit...
That's what I find frustrating.
More hours, more work, more responsibility, more stress = less/similar pay.
I nearly applied for what sounded like a great job on paper, but it was 49 hours a week and only 20 days holiday a year.
I sound a bit like a child.
here you go!
+ 5 min commute - walking
+ 4 days a week
+ have learnt a lot whilst i have been here
+ i like about 90% of the people here
+ mildly creative
- they keep on making people redundant ( 6 more have gone today )
- It can be BORING
- I've been here too long ( 4 yrs)
- No career progression in this company
- It's too near my flat, so i can go days without moving out of 100 square metres.
i could go on if anyone is interested
No that's fine
I'll take it
ok
let me know if you change yr mind!
+ it's alright
- it's not brilliant
OK
+ve It is to do with computers therefore ultimately based on something certain and logical
-ve the business processes layer means that any underlying certain logic is obfuscated with an inpenetrable fug of irrelevancies/whim and local legislative artiface
+ve I work in an environment where the major intolerances is not tolerated
-ve There is still the false assumption that to be correct or expert you must be in that role or must be able to communicate to people who have learnt to communicate in only a particular way
(I'll do 3 more of each later - I want to keep my posts smaller)
+ Can DiS with impunity (touch wood)
+ Get paid enough to afford Asda Extra Special Chantilly Vanilla Cream instead of standard double cream. Seriously, you have to try that stuff, it's unbelievable. £1 at the moment too down from the usual £1.74. Wack it on a warm chocolate brownie and you're in heaven. I could literally eat it forever.
Oh yeah.
+ Can walk in
+ Get to travel for free to interesting places
+ Close to lots of shops so I can have something different for lunch everyday
- I have no idea what I'm doing anymore
- Everyone is a lot older than me so no fun trips to the pubs/prospects of office romance
- It's like a 23 minute walk. Who am I, Moses Kiptanui?
- My monitor has terrible resolution
One more -
- In the London head office, there are around 6 full-time people doing what I am expected to do here by myself.
Ok, I'm going to pretend my blog is my job just for the purposes of not feeling like a total lamo jobless povo loser
+ I get to go to places no one else is allowed to see
+ I spend all of my time researching, which is basically one step away from being a detective like Columbo
+ Lots of people have told me how what I do have helped them with their work/research/studies/to get off their asses and explore
+ I get to choose from photographers I want to work with and thus help them to gain attention in return, yay for helping each other out
+ I feel like I've really achieved something given a year ago it didn't even exist and now strangers approach me about it when I'm out
- I don't get paid for it
- um, I don't know how to respond very well to people who stop me in public cos they know who I am/what I do
- some people who I need to help me see me as a competitor and with-hold info from me, or publish my work as a favour only to badly edit it :/
- I can spend months and months researching one thing never to find an answer
- I don't actually like the writing part of it
You ARE a detective like Columbo
yes!
life complete
+ve testing it solutions can be right up my street because I can always see how something might not work
-ve on projects this is not always the primary concern, sometimes time and bugetary considerations are the major factors, which is where risk management and analysis comes in, not all PMs appreciate candidness in this area
Umm...
+ Can enjoy the summer afternoons/evenings as I finish at 2.45
+ Really lovely colleagues
+ A tiny bit of variety as I'm a first aider and have to deal with accidents involving the public a lot.
- The pay is atrocious
- I am in no way challenged in this job
- Been doing it for 7 and a half years (keep saying I'll leave after every new year, never happens though)
- No possibility of progression
- No transferable job skills
+ Enjoyable, challenging, creative
+ Don't have to deal directly with fuckwit clients
+ Pays great
+ Can work from home when I want to
+ Everyone is nice and the office is in a beautiful converted barn
- Contract work so not always guaranteed
- No sexy wimmin
- .....can't think of any more
what do you do/
it sounds ace
web/software developer/designer
oh thats a little bit like what i do
except with none of those pluses
sorry to hear that :(
nah it's ok really
i'd like to work in a barn tho...
I'M AN OFFICE WORKER
+ nice people (ish)
+ quick commute
+ don't have to dress smart
+ don't have to work overtime/think about anything outside of work hours
+ 35 days holiday a year
- fucking boring
- not dead end, but I'm not interested in 'progressing' here
- have to go EVERY day (except weekends obvs)
- end up stuck on DiS most days
- meetings
A friend of mine has smashed the system,
and managed to roll over 5 days that became 15 in the process.
He now has 50 days holiday + bank holidays from April. The bastard.
when i was on placement...
my boss there was on some old holiday system where he accrued holiday for every year he worked. He'd been there since the 70s and when I was there he had something daft like 70 days' holiday.
Are you me?
This sounds exactly the same as my job (I work in the Commercial department of an Aerospace company)
Really? You massive scumbag.
I work in an Adult Ed college.
Hmm.
+ I really like the people I work with
+ Awesome surroundings (lovely university campus)
+ I can wear whatever I wish
+ Might have the opportunity to progress (fingers crossed), and this is the career I want (I think)
+ People bring in cakes and biscuits quite often
- I am not challeneged AT ALL
- Internal communication, especially between senior management and the little people (i.e. me) is absolutely awful
- Students are a bit silly and break the rules all the time
- Pay is rubbish
- We have to provide our own tea and coffee
More plusses than minuses but let's see what I can winkle out
+ I enjoy it enormously
+ I get a lot of free time
+ My clients are always very thankful
+ I don't have access to a computer during work hours, which is a blessed release. In fact, I enjoy travelling around London and am reconnecting with books as well as the cityscape
+ The company I predominantly work for is EXTREMELY good about forwarding me my earnings
- My weekday evenings are usually a write-off
- My services, while not exclusive in theory, are usually exclusive in practice, which jars with my moral sensibilities
- The hourly pay is very good but each hour's work is intensive and requires plenty of unpaid preparation and travel
- My working hours don't always coincide with my wife's :(
- The logical career progression sees me working for the ultra-elitist private sector that raised me, bypassing all notions of populism or helping society's most vulnerable in favour of 'well it's just a job, and it's right there' - hypocritical angst, in other words
I'm pretty damn happy with my job tbh
^male escort
Ha - about halfway through I did think this was a possible interpretation
what's up with the obsession with the number 5?
5 is too many. Why can't it be 2+ and 4-?
this will be fun
+ i only work 13 hours a week and i can quite happily live off my wage (sort of)
+ most of the time it's fun
+ it leads to opportunities to more work if i want it (tutoring)
+ i learn loads about like, being down with the kidz
+ i have learnt so much about the jewish way of life, and i find it really interesting
- not being able to understand my co-workers all the time can be a bit depressing
- when my kids are horrible they can be really horrible
- it gives me no formal qualifications
- i don't learn much german from it
- in the grand scheme of things i guess it's not that much money.
i do really enjoy it though, i think.
High 5!
happy purim!
are you having a purim party?
happy purim to you too!
they had a huge party in the school, we're going for drinks tonight :D
[...]
+ I
+ Like
+ It
+ Some
+ Times
- I
- Hate
- It
- Some
- Times
Mostly positive
+ Reasonable autonomy, get left to my own devices for days/weeks at a time
+ Well-paid (without being extravagant) enough to buy all the frilly things I want
+ Sufficiently challenging most of the time, with my own areas of speciality
+ Relaxed environment, with 35 hours a week (virtually never do more), plus working from home days and slackness etc so I'm probably on task about 20 hours a week.
+ Fairly nice set of colleagues, no one awful...
- ...though not great colleagues in the sense of having shared interests or anything - really would like to work with a younger team one day, all my jobs have involved me and people 10-30 years older.
- Manager is great at self-promotion but not so good at developing staff, so don't get the sense that they're trying to give me a career boost at all
- Though there are opportunities for progression, I really need to figure out what I want to do to capitalise on those, can't expect things to just fall in my lap
- Similarly need to figure out whether to stay in this particular line of work. Done it for 3-4 years now solely after falling into it via a temp job after uni. It's okay, but I've never really forced myself to figure out something more planned.
- We have to provide our own tea/coffee and milk. This is an outrage.
I'll try:
+ It starts a 2pm so I don't have to get up early
+ I get to use the internet and stuff between calls (if there's a gap)
+ Some of the people I have to deal with are nice
+ I get a day off during the week in exchange for working 10 hours the other 4 days
+ It gets nice and quiet towards the end of the shift
- It finishes at midnight so I get home late/have no chance of a social life during the week
- It's more difficult than I had anticipated
- It's minimum fucking wage despite being more difficult than I had anticipated
- Some of the people I have to deal with are dicks
- You're timed and scored on everything, including time spent writing up tickets after a call and time spent going to the toilet etc. Also you get a big red LATE if you go ONE minute over your lunch/break time.
+/-
+ Unfettered internet access
+ I'm not the least important person here any more
+ My employers are kind of a big deal in this sector
+ Reasonable autonomy. No-one's going to kick up a fuss if I leave early or take a long lunch
+ Almost everyone who works here is sound, and I've met hundreds of them
- I'm away too much and it's destroyed my life a bit
- There's never a steady flow of work. There's either nothing going on or everything happening at once, neither of which are enjoyable.
- It isn't really what I want to do
- I never work with the same people for more than a month or so, which means I don't really know anyone that well.
- For at least a third of the time I have no idea what's going on
hmmm
+ I work for an amazing children's charity that does incredible work
+ I get to use my mad advertising and marketing skills for good, instead of making a rich man I hate even richer like at my last job
+ I get paid enough to get by
+ It's easy to get to work
+ After years of banging on and making the case for investment we actually got it, and now we're having record results
- People live in this development bubble and they seem to have totally lost touch with reality. Makes doing stuff pretty difficult a lot of the time
- People don't understand our discipline, especially volunteers and use this as an excuse to be point blank rude to us
- I have absolutely zero chance of ever getting promoted, which is made especially galling when you witness the parade of director's PAs that do that for a year and then get to take their pick of any role in the organisation they fancy (I honestly wish I was exaggerating)
- Before she went on maternity leave my old boss and I had a bit of a breakdown in our relationship and I'm not looking forward to her coming back
- When we put something on facebook and people go *ugh, children in the UK need help we should help them first* and we reply saying we do work in the UK as well and they don't reply. But then when we do stuff on UK poverty, children here apparently don't need help cos their family are now crackheads with sky. And when we put videos on YouTube and people respond *I HOPE THEY DIE OF AIDS AFRICAN CUNTS* and it gets 50 likes :(
Pfft.
Your children's charity basically is a big evil corporate monster compared to mine. Sell out.
RE: your last point. Probably should have included all the horrible stuff I find out when proofing research and policy documents in my negatives :(((
Economies of scale - WE GET RESULTS
Which big children's charity do you guys work for?
I don't like to say on here
For reputational risk reasons (i.e the amount of smack I talk on here).
I'll PM you
Ah ok cool
Got it
Did you impregnate your boss and then dump her?
Good lord no
:S
I worked on a contract for a famous children's charity recently
it was a joy to work in their office. Everyone was enthusiastic and friendly and lovely.
+ don't have to go in or do any work ever again
- ends in three weeks
Aside from The Fear, those few weeks between getting notice of redundancy
and leaving are bliss
Yeah, the Fear is a bummer
Just made it to the last two and then got rejected for a job that would have meant continuous employment. These weeks could have been incredible...
you'll be fine, man.
^one of the good guys
It's been weird.
Especially as ATP has ended up being a marker point for the end of it.
The Fear + BLOOOOOOOZE Explosion anticipation is odd.
After that... very strange/lean times may lie ahead. But I was ready to go three years ago, so I'm kinda looking forward to whatever gets thrown up, even if it's pot washing, cos it means I've cut loose, out of a rut, and (kinda) moving on.
Pot washing is great man
especially if you've got one of those big pot wash machines, you just loadup a tray and stick it in and it goes BBBLLLLOOOOOSSSSSSHHHHHH and the pots are washed, amazing
+It pays my mortgage
+Commute is OK
+I'm good at the job
+DiS is accepted
+(because) My moniter can't be seen by 90% of the office
-Our clients are morons
-My colleagues don't give a shit about doing anything properly
-I have about 5 deadlines every day and most of the work will arrive less than 20 minutes before those deadlines
-This results in lunches being a rare privilage
-It's only interesting when things go massively wrong.
Okay I'll do my course at uni
+ It's genereally really open so I can pretty much do what I want and develop my own style
+ My coursemates are really lovely
+ The lectures are really smart
+ It's introducing me to new ideas of thoughts and therefore opening my mind and making me better as a person
+ The darkrooms, studios & cameras they have are literally ridiculous. Digital back for a Hasselblad, um yes.
- I feel like I'm not adding to the world in the slightest unlike science students or medical students. (This one really gets me down actually, especially since I was originally going to study Physics)
- I only have a few lectures a week, so that gives me lots of time free which for a poor student doesn't mean I can do very much.
- I really struggle with voicing my ideas in words. I'm good at writing about other people's stuff, but I struggle with explaining mine.
- I act and dress like an art student.
- Whenever I tell people I study 'Photographic Arts' they always give me that 'awh bless' look.
+ I work with nice people and academics who on the whole are quite intelligent
+ I can always leave early, arrive a bit late if I need to.
+ Casual dress. I hate the thought of having to buy clothes for work.
+ Allowed to listen to music, use the internet etc
+ I pretty much have to kill someone to be sacked.
- I've been here for nearly 5 years and am really bored of it
- It doesn't really challenge me in any way
- There's a lot of red tape which can be really tedious
- In reference to + #5, there are some people who are really awful at their jobs and shouldn't be here but it being the public sector, its near-impossible to get rid of them.
- Some of the students can be incredibly stupid. Some don't even know which course they're on.
+ get on really well with my colleagues
+ money's pretty good
+ can turn up late and no-one really cares
+ can leave early and no-one really cares
- boring work / not challenging enough
- strict drugs and alcohol testing procedure
- no chance of promotion
- treated like a 'number' by the HR team
- being made redundant in 2 months time - although, posting this in the negatives section kind of doesn't make sense.
cannot think of 1 plus.
+ im my own boss
+ i get to make music everyday
+ i can pretty much do ANYTHING i want
- i somehow still end up dealing with fuckwits
- i can spend days not speaking to a soul (lonesome)
- sometimes i earn no money for periods of time
- sometimes i have no idea and no money to go anywhere for inspiration
- i dont look forward to the weekends
well who'd have thunk it...more negatives than positives... im off to check the jobs board
Are you a new DiS social board monitor?
I have no idea what you mean.
why will you never have a problem finding a job in the future?
ha ha ha
+ the work I have to do is ridiculously easy
+ unlimited tea and biscuits
+ I spend the first hour of the day reading the papers, morally get to go home an hour early
+ most weekends I get to just watch stuff in iplayer/4od
+ we get some interesting visitors that are really nice to chat with
- I have to empty bins sometimes
- the pay is rubbish
- it's boring and unrewarding and there's no scope for progression
- working every single weekend
- my colleagues were insufferable at times. They wine on about the 'politics' of the place, but it's them creating all of the unnecessary drama. My boss is a complete momo.
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+ I work in sport on the telly.
- Sometimes I have to watch rugby.
Do you have to watch 'the cricket' as well?
I never thought i'd ever feel any sympathy for you, but <manly hug>.
no, thankfully.
my mates watch it around me while we're working but I just pretend it's not happening.
'heathen' is about right
+ Overall, I have wonderful coworkers
+ Fairly low-stress job
+ My boss encourages "breaks," so I can fuck around on the internet as long as I'm still getting a reasonable amount of work done each day
+ Commute is only a 15 minute walk from home
+ Good pay and benefits
- Occasionally, I have to deal with some real jerks
- I have to be here far too early each morning so unless I want to be a zombie the next day, I rarely go out after work
- The work is pretty boring and while I'll definitely have the opportunity to advance in this job, I don't really want to make this my career
- One of my bosses is pretty strict about us being here on time each morning
- Most universities give their employees tuition remission. This one doesn't. No free graduate program for me :(
+5
1 to 3: No one really knows what I'm doing on a day to day basis so I have near autonomy on what i do and when i do it.
4 It's alright money
5 My boss is v ttrative, also a very pleasant person and she'd not be an embarassment at an afterparty.
-5
1-2:They are trying to make it all very real with pressure to take on more responsibility and do qualifications and shit.
3: My days are mostly spent tidying after people who should be more aware of what they're doing.
4: Meetings
5: My boss is v ttrative so I wind up doing 'favours' for her which wind up being lengthy shitey projects just because she's wearing tight jeans on the day she asks me to do something.
+ i like physically building things, it's cool at the end of the day to have built a big complicated wall or something, old jobs where i didn't feel like i had done anything made me sad.
+ if i want to fuck off early or just not come in at all for a day i can do it with impunity.
+ sometimes earn really good money
+ don't stay on any one site for long enough to get bored
+ get to work with my dad on occasion, we drive in to work listening to metal. it's the best.
- probably at the height of my earning powers now, not gonna improve unless i do management stuff
- NO GIRLS
- sometimes firms just decide not to pay us and there doesn't seem to be anything i can do about it
- if i fuck up at all and someone catches it then i have to go back and fix it for no money
- on some jobs i end up completely shagged at the end of the day and don't want to do anything after work.
+ I genuinely get to learn something new every day
+ I get to see/very occasionally get my hands on brand new inventions at a very early stage
+ I get to apply years and years of tertiary education, which would have felt like a complete waste otherwise
+ The pay is nice for now and gets ludicrous as the career progresses
+ It challenges me in a half dozen different ways on a daily basis
- It challenges me in a half dozen different ways on a daily basis
- I have three bosses, and doing exactly the same task the same way can be perfect for one and completely, totally wrong for another
- A big chunk of my work is indirectly for industries I deliberately chose not to work for
- A couple of the higher-ups are a bit belmy
- No real internet time
Actually can I replace that industry bollocks with "rock solid qualifying exams in the future"
+ Actually feel like I'm doing something really worthwhile with proper tangible results
+ Manage a team of really great, enthusiastic students
+ 15 minute walk to work
+ Got in at the start of a time of fairly rapid expansion, so should be plenty of scope for development and progression
+ Learning LOADS
- Can't switch off
- Often have to work long weird hours, including Sundays and overnight sometimes, so go for long periods without seeing much of girlfriend/friends/family
- Peaks and troughs - the peaks can get a bit stressful, and the troughs are really boring
- The person I manage full-time (ie not a student) thinks she's the dog's bollocks
- Students are stupidly unreliable
OK then
Pros
1. Sound-oriented, with access to top-shelf recording/production gear
2. Creatively fulfilling
3. Flexible with lots of freedom - nobody gives a shit where I am or what I'm up to, as long as my mobile's switched on and I deliver quality product on deadline
4. Great colleagues, very varied bunch
5. Money's not ridiculous, but certainly OK
Cons
1. Money's OK, but certainly not ridiculous
2. Very sedentary
3. Deadlines are a fucking killer sometimes
4. Access to recording/production gear means irresistable temptation to piss about with my own stuff when I should be working
5. Been doing more or less the same thing for a few years now, not exactly bored but can see boredom on the horizon. Would like to shake things up a bit, but am too comfortable to bother