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Clare's Law

berksy [Edit] [Delete] 16 replies 13:31, 5 March '12

I have a couple of questions about the scheme.

Say Jane starts going out with John, but John has a conviction for domestic violence in a previous relationship. As I understand, under the scheme, the Police would be able to inform Jane that John has such a history.

But...

1) How do the police know who John is going out with?

2) Does a 'domestic abuser register' exist in a similar format to the sex offender's register?

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  • heard this discussed on the radio this morning

    from what i could gather Jane can only find out if John has previous convictions is if she goes to the police to report him for domestic abuse, only then can/will the police inform her if John has any previous.

    p_a_u_l | 5 Mar '12, 13:40 | X
    • so

      how is different from the current situation?

      If Jane went to the police to tell them about domestic abuse from John, and John's been previously convicted of domestic abuse, you'd think that at the very least, the police would act straight away on that, and you'd hope they'd tell Jane why.

      So what's really changing?

      berksy @p_a_u_l | 5 Mar '12, 15:33 | X
      • don't know pal

        they interviewed Clare's dad on 5live breakfast this morning and I was only half listening.
        http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17254163

        p_a_u_l @berksy | 5 Mar '12, 15:39 | X
  • I can't answer 1) but can have a stab at 2) and do have further questions

    I'm reasonably certain no domestic abuse register exists. There's just people who have convictions for domestic violence. Whilst I've no particular desire to stand up for the rights of people with convictions for domestic violence, is it ethical to start keeping track/tabs/reporting to the public about someone's conviction if that wasn't part of the sentence the judge imposed?

    This does seem the most well-intentioned but utterly impractical law I've heard of for quite some time.

    theguywithnousername | 5 Mar '12, 13:40 | X
    andyvine and marilyninthesky this'd this
    • I agree it is well intentioned

      I just don't see how it's going to help the current situation, or more specifically, how it is any different to the current situation (not that I know much about the current situation, in all fairness).

      Because, when I first heard about it, it sounded like you could meet someone on Monday, go for a drink on Tuesday, and go ask the police on Wednesday whether he has a conviction for domestic violence, with no grounds to do so whatsoever. If that's true, it's dangerous territory, if you ask me.

      berksy @theguywithnousername | 5 Mar '12, 15:40 | X
      • Can you still chill on Sunday?

        hip_young_gunslinger @berksy | 5 Mar '12, 15:44 | X
        • yeah, cuz you'll be in the COOLER

          boom

          berksy @hip_young_gunslinger | 5 Mar '12, 20:56 | X
  • so to answer the questions:

    1. they don't
    2. don't think so

    p_a_u_l | 5 Mar '12, 13:40 | X
  • -

    http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01326/claire-682_1326832a.jpg

    forzaborza | 5 Mar '12, 13:41 | X
    • awful shoes

      Silkyskillz11 @forzaborza | 5 Mar '12, 13:43 | X
    • no, no we wouldn't

      Silkyskillz11 @james_ | 5 Mar '12, 13:50 | X
      marilyninthesky this'd this
    • definitely would

      i've gone back and checked a few times

      no question about it

      who is it? clare from steps? ah...

      TheWza @james_ | 5 Mar '12, 14:54 | X
      hip_young_gunslinger and zxcvbnm- this'd this
    • ffs

      just opened that and my boss was standing next to me talking to my supervisor about a rise for me never gonna get it now ffs

      Songs_about_ducking @forzaborza | 5 Mar '12, 13:48 | X
      • my apologies.

        i forget that NSFW stuff. never really worked anywhere where it's been an issue.

        surely, you wouldn't have been on a music forum if your boss was stuff right next to you, though, no?

        forzaborza @Songs_about_ducking | 5 Mar '12, 13:50 | X
        • I was joking

          :)

          Songs_about_ducking @forzaborza | 5 Mar '12, 15:10 | X
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