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Oo's fackin' bonce 'ave you smashed in lately then?
Let's talk soccer...
STOP MUGGING 'IM OFF YOU MUG
Then we only took thirtee dahwn West H'aaaaam but we rolled em over
Then we only took thirtee dawhn Cardiff but we rolled em over
Someone might give you some attention.
Someone might fackin' cut ya if you ain't careful.
CARNT remeb's what the scor was or where bounce we sor them but we run into a bunch of em on the way home we had a dust up lol was real toe to toe stuff. ROLL on April when we gets to take Hibree by storm again and claim London for the blues. LOL.
Come say that to my face, I fackin' dare ya. I string you up ya fackin' cock 'ed! You and ya firm better wotch your backs.
Does this mean bedsit Barry is doing the politics troll thread?
Fink you're all that do ya?! Fink you're fackin' 'ard do ya?! Just cos I don't live in me fackin' parents' basement like sum fackin' bedwetting fackin' slit your wrists guitar shit fackin nonce?!
COME FACKIN' 'ERE AND TALK ABOUT FACKIN' BEDSITS. I'LL FACKIN' STAB YOU A HUNDRED TIMES IN THE FACKIN' BONCE MATE - ONE FOR EACH OF THE BEDROOMS IN YOUR PARENTS' FACKIN' HOME COUNTIES FACKIN' SHITHOUSE!!!!! FACKIN' FACKIN' 'ELL YA CAAAAAAANNNNTTTT!
with the future inlaws but I think you might be overplaying it a touch. You fringe.
Fixtures on the last day of the season are unlikely to move right?
Cheap train tickets out for Man City last game of the season. But also scared I'll have to sit there as we lose 7-0, get relegated and have to watch City lift the league title.
Also 8 am train seems risky when I'm DJing the night before, AND it's my birthday
but then again, I'm always surprised by any match that doesn't kick off at 3pm on a Saturday (ie most matches).
so there's not really any scope for moving them.
also of his inability to spell assosicaioajkdi[tion ;)
He still didn't make the bench.
Feel sorry for him, but he's just not especially good
Basically saying the player sales are padding out the fact that Arsenal's overall growth is nowhere near what it should be.
What does Football Ramble guy say?
Two seperate people said basically that on Sky. I'm not saying i agree with them. I don't particularly see the sense in saying "That business wouldn't be profitable if it wasn't for their main income stream", but that's what they both were saying.
There's definitely truth in the fact that Arsenal don't maximise thier income through other ways, such as sponsorship, etc.
I think they were saying compared to clubs like City and Liverpool, whose sponsorship revenues are up 40%+. I think i'm right in saying that Arsenal get about £2.8m a season from stadium and shirt sponsorship, whereas most other top six clubs rake in £30m-£50m.
and still made a loss of nearly £200m? You're right, Arsenal should definitely look to get a similar sponsorship deal.
Arsenal clearly undervalued their sponsorship deals. All i'm saying is that should be looked at. United bring in four times what Arsenal do just for their training kit sponsorship, ffs.
You really need to stop being so defensive.
A £400m stadium sponsorship deal would be great for any club.
a) The fact they needed long deals t(you'll always get less if you're locking someone in like that)
b) The value of the market at the time (it's since they were signed that it's skyrocketed)
c) They were frontloaded.
It does mean they're going to be weak commercially for a while yet.
The club overall are making good money but the 'football side of the business' (ugh) only breaks even because of player sales, the wage structure is mental and our commercial deals are woeful because they were all frontloaded to help pay for the ground and probably negotiated by Peter Hill-Wood.
Bascially we need to qualify for the Champions League, trim the fuck out of the squad and hold on till 2014 when we can renegotiate shirt and kit deals, but we do have a strong cash balance, so the figures being chucked around of about £50m odd to spend on transfers this summer are pretty accurate.
balance sheets and football finances? It was a simpler time.
<insert 'who remembers Pony kits?> question here>
And then we ended up in Divison 2 with a £20m loan on 19% interest secured against our ground having spunked a wedge on Mark Hately.
this is pretty much guesswork but may not be that far from the truth
Squillaci on 60, 000 a week, lol
really likely to be on £20k a week each?
having read more of the article, he's clearly just projecting. however, it's widely-known that arsenal's first-teamers and fringers are on ridiculous wages, someone refused squillachi cos he was reportedly on around 50,000, bendtner was known to be on 52000... they can't offload these guys cos no-one else is willing to meet their wage demands.
but I wish there was a league-wide pay ceiling, but with performance/appearance/win bonuses added on, so genuine top-class players would be coining it, and injury room layabouts wouldn't.
But the latter does rather rely on not stockpiling shitters like Almunia and Toto
but the spread seems to be along the same lines as other reports - huge total, but no massive difference between top earners.
On the plus side, if we can shift the likes of Almunia, Bendtner, Vela, Squillachi, Chamakh and Park in the summer then that could potentially bring in £10-£15m and maybe trim almost as much again off the wage bill.
that makes me happy. What the hell would he spend it on, tinted specs?
And a mansion in Hebden Bridge.
It's £16.7m in the six months up to November 2011 (up 17% compared to a year earlier).
Though to be honest, listening to the Football Ramble lads talking about Arsenal's finances would be much more entertaining.
Something along the lines of "I don't want us to play like City, they are a rubbish Italian team and not very good to watch".
Kinda sad when a supposedly great tactical coach assumes that a side is negative because they know how to defend! We play FOUR attackers, ffs, tuck away about three a game and are clearly the best footballing team in England.
Filed under 'Jens Lehmann/Silkyskillz11 standard trolling'.
I think they've just taken a very severe blow to the head
From the interview: "I refuse to built a team like City. I don't like the standards of their football, City are an Italian team and they follow the Italian standards"
He's obviously woken up 18 months ago.
Mancini ought to be sacked for encouraging his side to defend well.
There's an exact formula to be successful in PL. And that's what City is doing right now: attacking efficiency above all. City is a very organised, efficient, well-balanced team. All they want right now is to be champions. If I saw City playing in Italy, I would say that's where they actually belong.
conducted in a language other than English are reported is always a laugh. Apparently he also managed to concede that Abramovich might sack him while defiantly claiming he was at Chelsea for the long haul.
Also the current Chelsea team are completely devoid of identity which was the reason he was bought in. He needs to sort out his own house before saying anything that could be considered derogatory about a team 17 points above with a 32+ goal difference on his side.
There's probably some mild ironic guffaws to be taken from how meaningless a statement it is. Besides, aren't Chelsea identifiably that side who get all their managers sacked and have that loony moptop running around like a headless chicken?
The interview seems to be about 'sort(ing) out his own house' and as we've established, many translations have him down as being very robust in his praise of Manchester City. So, erm, yeah.
Absolutely meaningless. Of course Chelsea have 'identity' in that sense- who doesn't?
So far he's been unable to do that and whether that's because he's not strong enough to impose his ideas on the group or that he's just got the wrong players for it he has still been made to look well out of his depth.
As for the other point I said anything that could be considered derogatory which is certainly an interpretation that could be applied to that section of his interview.
People are very good at 'interpreting' things in such a way that their 'interpretation' is completely at odds with what was initially said, particularly it seems in the world of football journalism. I don't see why AVB, or anyone else, should consider the idea that when they say something anodyne, even complimentary, that someone else will manage to 'interpret' it in the complete opposite way.
We see genuine and mischievious mistranslations and partial quotations, and often just out-right lies, all the time in football. Surprises me that anyone pays any attention to any stories on them any more.
Fristly put up the other translation where he doesn't say the bit about "Italian Standards" and fair enough.
Secondly identity isn't meaningless in the example of Chelsea. You have a manger in charge who built his reputation on a style of football that the Chelsea team haven't really played, even under Carlo when you were pumping teams by 6 it was still on the back of physical players and a direct style, so now he has moved away from what your strengths were and hasn't adequately replaced them with his own methods. I don't think it's a ridiculous or meaningless observation but if you do then fair enough.
But then, for all intents, you attacked. So it's hardly a surprise. And I've already posted that translation. But the real point I'm making is that it's pretty clear, as it is 9/10 when managers or footballers talk to the press, that somebody somewhere has, through genuine error or mischievous intent, muddied the waters. You can't really say that a football manager should be careful with their choice of words when the exact words they chose are unlikely to ever make it to anyone. That's the nonsense.
And I still disagree RE: identity. What you seem to be saying is that Chelsea don't have a particularly good or effective 'identity'. I don't think that's up for question, tbh.
As a team, at present, nah, not fer me.
I see a very clear one and I'd genuinely be surprised if anyone who has watched a full 90 minutes of Chelsea two or three times this season hasn't spotted it- it's possession football, dominance of territory, a defence based on a high block and starving the opposition of the ball. In many ways it is the opposite of the direct, counter-attacking box-to-box style Chelsea have played in recent years, so I struggle to see how it's less of an 'identity'.
The only difference is that we're a bit shit.
"possession football, dominance of territory...starving the opposition of the ball".
not from what i've seen, pal, no.
we are talking about Chelsea here, right?
and either did it poorly or against a side who effectively countered it, did the 'identity' they then had cease to exist? No. Same way that setting your self up as a possession side but being shit at it doesn't mean you didn't try to set yourself up that way in the first place.
Y'see, this is why talk of 'identity' is meaningless. There isn't a footballing side in the league without an 'identity'. I'm out.
AVB wants things done like you've said high pressing etc.... players don't seem willing or able to do that so you're stuck between two tactical set ups and not doing either particularly well by the high standards set in previous seasons.
Also you mentioned you have read a translation of the interview that is different would you please post this as I don't enjoy having poorly informed opinions.
watch what you say and who you say it to and if not be prepared to take what comes with not doing so. In this case it's some internet no mark saying you're not very good at your job so I'm sure the very handsome and rich AVB won't really be arsed.
The latter is a semantic arguement so yeah however ryou want to describe it. Like you say it's a trite and easy point to have made anyway so probably doesn't need a lot more discussion.
I might have replied without looking who the post was by. You still might be tenacious though.
who, while a very accomplished and effective player with a very good goalscoring record, is also about as pretty to watch as Jo Brand having a shit
His close control isn't great and he's sometimes clumsy, sure, but then so are most big strikers. Cavani often is, you'd agree if you saw him against Inter the other night, for instance. There are countless other examples of players similar (though that's not to say all, or that the automatic assumption that "big lads aren't good on the deck" ain't a bit silly), but Dzeko clearly has skills. His range of goals is as good as anyones i've seen. He's capable of the sublime (absolute scorchers from outside of the box with either foot) the simple (basic headers, tap ins) or the ridiculous (arsing them over the line from half a yard, or accidentally taking on three players and shinning one in).
As a goalscorer, given his fee, he should be expected to score 25 goals a season, and so long as he's doing that i can't have any complaints. He's clearly no Maradona, but he's obviously no Andy Carroll either.
What do you reckon about the chances that Dzeko won't be at City next season?
I'm not really up on the ins and outs of his relationship with Mancini - I mean, I know that they've had disagreements, etc - but, can't remember which game it was, a few weeks ago, anyway, Dzeko scored an absoulte blinding goal and the whole stadium and bench erupted....except for Roberto, who remained in his seat with his bottom lip sticking out.
Can't make an assumption on this, but doesn't look too great.
Dzeko questioned being taken off, once, about six months ago...and made a public apology the next day.
Every player has a run-in with Mancini, and they all come to regret it. The last of the iron fist managers.
He's a player who'll get you 20+ a season, especially in a good side.
Great attitude, a terrific trainer, very popular behind the scenes (not Croatian mates, City upload their training videos), happy enough with the squad rotation. All round good egg.
We'll move Adebayor and Tevez on, keep Aguero, Balotelli and Dzeko.
as tough a group/play as stupidly in the Champions league again.
I think the days of us splashing £100m per transfer window are gone now.
We'll reinvest the Tevez and Adebayor money (plus that from others who'll go, like Kolo Toure, Adam Johnson, possibly Kolarov) in long-term replacements for Lescott and Barry.
Love for him to be given the chance and come good as he has skills but he'd have to step up a few gears in terms of fitness. Razak looking tody the other night for Brighton as well, needs 2 more seasons of development but could be a good replacement for Barry.
read lots of "the best midfield performance i've ever seen from a Brighton player" type of stuff since his debut (may be a bit premature, like).
i like him. he's like Frimpong, but without the ego.
It was M. Johnson but that ship has sailed. Is there talk of Roman going anywhere for some experience?
Think he might be out of contract at the end of the season and moving on.
We've just signed a lad called Pozo from Real Madrid. Never seen him play, but he was captain of his team there so i hope he's some sort of Hierro type.
England are insisting Gareth Barry trains with them and plays on Wednesday.
He's got two injuries, ffs.
Wish they'd have a little more faith in Scotty P or Jonesy at times, i really do.
Basile Boli with a MASSIVE header at 2.13
Even at his best, three or four years ago, he was nowhere near the best midfielder in the world.
Not sure he was even the best midfielder in the Premier League, though one of them, sure.
International tournaments he's played in. It's beyond me how a so called pundit could even think such a thing. Best in the world? Good grief, deluded doesn't begin to cover it.
Someone must've pointed out to Pearce-o that it was silly a) not calling up any centre-halves, and b) resting the form English defender in the country.
then you have to give up until tomorrow.
See you tomorrow!
Neymar aside I'm not sure many of these Brazilians would get in the England side:
Julio Cesar, Alves, Luiz, Thiago Silva, Marcelo, Sandro, Fernandinho, Hernanes, Ronaldinho, Neymar, Leandro Damião
in brazil anymore.
aren't jerome anderson's kentaro in charge of their world tour?
Marcelo and Thiago Silva would without any trouble at all, and considering our striker shortage, Leandro probably wouldn't have too much more difficulty.
most of them don't fit with the stereotypical england football team and it's a crying shame that ronaldinho can still get a call up now (although i'm sure that's for the sponsors) but i'd still expect that team to get a positive result against england in a competitive game. england are crying out for players like hernanes and thiago silva and i don't really see alves and marcelo as a step down from what we have. sandro is a better player in international competitions than he is in english league football and i'd say the same of david luiz based on his time at benfica - especially as brazil will be far more suited to his style than chelsea. leandro can't be any worse than what england have next to rooney.
He's been one of our most consistent players.
i think he's an excellent footballer, although i think that games like the one on sunday are more likely to happen to him in england than elsewhere. i don't think that's necessarily being negative about him as a player as it's a team sport. he'd probably be doing himself a favour if he went to real madrid or milan or whoever in terms of his international profile.
what do you want from me
Since I know how much you all love youth football: http://www.TheFA.com/FATVLive
is that frank stapleton on commentary?
not bad for a left back.
Can't see Bosnia keeping 11 on the pitch playing like this, even being a friendly.
never change lads.
if scunthorpe can defeat sheffield's second team tomorrow then the race for the second automatic place will become even more exciting.
Hereford 4-2 up at Gillingham with ten minutes left and losing 5-4?
at 4-4 as well!