school shooting in ohio
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-02-27/ohio-school-shooting/53267688/1?csp=34news
1 confirmed dead, 4 wounded
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an OBSERVATION...so no high horses, please
why does this sort of thing pretty much always happen in the US?
Cos it's a terrible country
it doesn't.
cheers.
aah, but it does. it does
I'd say 70% of school shootings carried out by students over the last 20 years have happened in the US
please provide evidence to the contrary, or....
lolwut that's not how it works
provide evidence for your "70% of school shootings" claim OR...
'I'd say' indicates I am taking a punt
KiK took me to task. it's down tohim, really.
anyway, here is a list of sorts.
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0777958.html
nb1 obvs, only since 1996
nb2 some of these are NOT carried out by students, which is the crux of my point
he was replying to you, you're not right until proven wrong ffs.
you're quite an aggressive little toad
bottom line...shooting = bad
we all agree on that, no
YEAH
1) I think when he said "pretty much always happens in the US", he meant
"when this sort of thing happens, it pretty much always seems to be in the US", rather than "this goes on every day in America".
2) When he said "this sort of thing", I assume he meant school shootings. Other people can maybe argue over what they are if they like.
3) If I'm right in these assumptions, it's hard to disagree with him that it certainly seems this way - although this may well be due to theguywithnousername's 2nd point below.
4) A (very) rough estimate of the percentage he mentions could be obtained from this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shootings As you can see, it's pretty much all US-centred, but whether that's because of wikipedia being US-centric or because more school shootings occur there is impossible to say (I guess it's a bit of both). Certainly if you take the "notable school shootings" section as a guide, it lists 113 in the US, 11 in Canada, 17 in Europe, and 12 in South America, Asia and Australia, giving a US share of 73.9%
5) Since this is therefore an understandable (if perhaps inaccurate) perception, I think it's a fair question. My answers to it would, I guess, have been exactly the four mentioned below, but then I'm not an expert and there may well be others.
6) Without getting on the high horse he mentioned*, I think this might all be more appropriate in a separate thread.
*Ok, I clearly am
should probably wait til there are more details about the case
before saying what sort of thing it is.
First off it's a big country.
Second off, we get a lot more news about things that happen there than things that happen in other countries.
Thirdly they're history and gun laws mean more people have access to guns there than many other countries.
Fourthly the fact it's happened a few times there before means it's more likely to occur to disturbed people living there as someting they might do.
i was thinking about your fourthly
perverse how the myth of american school shootings might actually be perpetuating itself through cultural influence.
er... Anders Behring Breivik? Also, probably in much the same way that lots of kids go missing
but you don't hear about them all within the first 48hrs - unless of course it's at xmas.
i've left my phone off for 48hrs before and didn't see anyone but no-one reported me as missing, etc...
see also, this from a few days ago that i didn't see on the news: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/22/uk-sweden-killings-idUSLNE81L02X20120222
Anders Breivik was involved in a school shooting as well as the other stuff? What a monster.
Also, I think you've posted the wrong link, because the story there isn't a school shooting either.
I read 'this sort of thing'
as shootings in general
yeah, that was my fault
KIDZ SHOOTIN KIDZ
in school
So sad :(
There was another "accidental" shooting at an elementary school (can't remember what state) last week. Some kid brought a gun in his backpack. It ended up going off and shooting a little girl in his class.
'bout 20 minutes from where i live
scary shit